Karnewarrior

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Oct 28, 2017
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True. Game would probably be a lot better with even a basic sound track/SFX.

No shot we get less cryptic though, if it's inspired by Yume Nikki, the most obtuse game in existence.
 
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Maybe someone ask already, but i'll ask again - what colored balls do? Like, they're everywhere in the lab, but i don't find place where i can use it. And maybe someone know how increase time in dream?
 

Mpreg Greg

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Feb 3, 2021
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RNG.

Everytime you sleep you'll randomly wake up in the lab or the other area.



Pretty sure I tried that, but I might be remembering wrong.
wait
So you're telling me

That i just got unlucky, and got the END GATE 3 times in a ROW BY CHANCE?!?
 

Suminohana

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Aug 27, 2023
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True. Game would probably be a lot better with even a basic sound track/SFX.

No shot we get less cryptic though, if it's inspired by Yume Nikki, the most obtuse game in existence.
Anyhow, I gave up on the game. I was just sleeping over and over again trying to finish the puzzles but the randomized drops make everything a true chore. It's so nonsensical. Inventory space too small. Clunky gameplay. But interesting premise.

It remembers me of Project Kat/Paper Lily. If you liked this game, or to the very least liked how it feels, then give Paper Lily a try (not a hentai game, no sex scenes). It's also directly inspired by Yume Nikki. Also cryptic but not even close to this, since it has a more or less linear gameplay.
 

TheRichPeppe

Newbie
Sep 6, 2023
15
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Maybe someone ask already, but i'll ask again - what colored balls do? Like, they're everywhere in the lab, but i don't find place where i can use it. And maybe someone know how increase time in dream?
About balls, i assume this is placeholders for the future items, so there is no purpose to collect them now.
To increase time in dream you need to visit the store. At the top left corner woud be a shelves with medicines. There is a few type of medicine, which increasing you time inside dream, but also lowering some of stats.
 

Nidabutt

Newbie
Dec 21, 2021
56
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There is a save system when interacting with the computer in the bedroom with mutiple slot, tho the games rly needs to point that out cuz I initially thought we can surf the internet of our choice like the old version instead
Having to redo the enormous lab/mansion level I was in due to a crash is absolutely ridiculous though. Manual saves mostly exist to combat frustration from death/crashes in games as they bookmark your progress, this isn't polished enough to warrant the current system.

I don't want the developer to feel bad about this feedback, I just wanted to be honest about my experience because it was pretty frustrating. The game expects a lot of investment but it's unfair to expect players to give it that and put up with the very punishing save system considering it's in a WIP state without the necessary polish yet.

Edit: I'd like to say that the story seemed interesting and the concept definitely has potential with a little more tweaking, so you're on the right track. I'm sure it'll evolve with time.
 

cryptic12345

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Mar 19, 2022
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tbh if people just wanna indulge in this fetish/niche, the whole keeping your stats high is actually a hassle, but then we have the needle option to bail but need to suffer the consequences (low hp) too so idk
 

monkbird

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Oct 1, 2019
18
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Bugs:
The Quality 3 and 4 recipes give body+sanity and stamina points respectively.
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The passage of time seems odd when coming home from places. I don't know if this is intentional or not.
Ex.:
Going to shop 1 dot.
Coming back from shop 5 dots.
Total time cost of shopping 6 dots.
Saving game 5 dots.
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Triggering Kari's yellow eye convo in the school has her talk like you're in the cafe.
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Can't wait to see the green ghost possession implemented in the conversations with them and how it'll change stuff.
I hope the player's eyes flash green when it tries to hijack a response, like when the stun is triggered.
 

ulrich1555

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Nov 15, 2020
4
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I must be stupid because, when I launch my game, the characters are necessarily male whereas I would like to play a woman. Is there a way to explain how to change sex because I can't find a way to do it? thanks in advance
 

ViviX12

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Jan 5, 2019
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I must be stupid because, when I launch my game, the characters are necessarily male whereas I would like to play a woman. Is there a way to explain how to change sex because I can't find a way to do it? thanks in advance
The game does MTF now. You get to get TF'd, depending on choices.
 

DocterD

New Member
Feb 27, 2020
11
8
If the game is only going to be M2F from now on shouldn't the "female protagonist" tag be removed?
Otherwise I don't see how people can use the filter to distinguish games with optional vs mandatory M2F content, Which is really annoying especially when everything else about the game is otherwise exactly what you are looking for.

Considering the creator has stated they hated most M2F games they have played which they clearly wanted to enjoy that might give cause to feel more sympathetic towards the unintended audience they unintentionally attracted. Also I wonder what they meant by they "would not have a female protagonist for the story", That's an interesting thing to say to the many non-fans of M2F who would say that the stories for many M2F games would have enhanced the content if only the protagonist was a woman.
 
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Samjaza

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Jun 10, 2017
25
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If the game is only going to be M2F from now on shouldn't the "female protagonist" tag be removed?
Otherwise I don't see how people can use the filter to distinguish games with optional vs mandatory M2F content, Which is really annoying especially when everything else about the game is otherwise exactly what you are looking for.

Considering the creator has stated they hated most M2F games they have played which they clearly wanted to enjoy that might give cause to feel more sympathetic towards the unintended audience they unintentionally attracted. Also I wonder what they meant by they "would not have a female protagonist for the story", That's an interesting thing to say to the many non-fans of M2F who would say that the stories for many M2F games would have enhanced the content if only the protagonist was a woman.
Just putting male protagonist would be incorrect.
There are no tags for M2F, you can transform into the "female protagonist".
So the Dev can only put closest to whats currently in the game from available tags.
 
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DocterD

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Feb 27, 2020
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8
Just putting male protagonist would be incorrect.
There are no tags for M2F, you can transform into the "female protagonist".
So the Dev can only put closest to whats currently in the game from available tags.
Using the male protagonist with the trans protagonist and transformation tags would be accurate, However because trans is a combined tag of futa and trans there are still filtering issues however it would still be an improvement overall.
 

unniex

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Game Developer
Mar 10, 2020
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If the game is only going to be M2F from now on shouldn't the "female protagonist" tag be removed?
Otherwise I don't see how people can use the filter to distinguish games with optional vs mandatory M2F content, Which is really annoying especially when everything else about the game is otherwise exactly what you are looking for.

Considering the creator has stated they hated most M2F games they have played which they clearly wanted to enjoy that might give cause to feel more sympathetic towards the unintended audience they unintentionally attracted. Also I wonder what they meant by they "would not have a female protagonist for the story", That's an interesting thing to say to the many non-fans of M2F who would say that the stories for many M2F games would have enhanced the content if only the protagonist was a woman.
Ok, I guess it's time talk about this again.

The original demo was proof of concept. I had a bunch of sprites and animations I wanted to showcase that I painstakingly stitched together into something resembling a game.
It was the first time I tried making a game. I had no idea what I was doing, how I should advertise it, who the intended audience was, what to expect. Nothing. In that sense it's completely true - the game wasn't intended to be M2F. It wasn't intended to ne anything. And since it didn't have a plot, the gender didn't matter either.
That was 3 years ago. Where have you been all this time to now pop up and be surprised the game isn't turning out the way you want?

The moment you introduce context, things like gender start to matter. I could NOT write anything remotely competent with a gender neutral protagonist. Writing is hard enough as is for me, without resorting to esoteric techniques.

Could you write 2 routes one for male and one for female instead? Sure, you can also make 2 different games, or 20. If it's not apparent I barely have time to work on one.

Could you make a game without a plot and characters? Yes, but it's uninteresting to me. The fetishes I like live and die through social interactions. Even pregnancy. A game that has no characters to acknowledge changes makes the changes meaningless. I won't force myself to make something I can't enjoy myself.
I'll go a step further. You can blame Magical Camp for being one of the 3 games directly responsible for this project existing. It was proof of concept to me that it is possible to make a game about feminization that I could personally enjoy. Without it this project would have never went past the showcase stage.
And by extension Coffee Story Extra would also not be made, because I would simply lack the resources for it.

I've added a freeplay mode. All it does is removes all story and character interactions and changes the protagonist to female from the start.
I don't know if I'm making things better or worse, since I clearly didn't attract the audience I wanted.
At the moment the only way you get to access this is by setting "story" to 0 in the config.ini

To address you specifically,
Considering the creator has stated they hated most M2F games they have played which they clearly wanted to enjoy that might give cause to feel more sympathetic towards the unintended audience they unintentionally attracted.
I don't understand. Are you implying I should feel sympathy towards people that don't like M2F games because I don't either?
That's nonsensical. The group you're talking about doesn't like M2F content in general. I just don't like most M2F games.

Also I wonder what they meant by they "would not have a female protagonist for the story"
Because the story isn't about a protagonist that gets turned into a donkey. It's about a male protagonist that gets feminized, has to deal with it and find a way to turn back. If you cut it out there's almost no story left. Certainly no character development.

That's an interesting thing to say to the many non-fans of M2F who would say that the stories for many M2F games would have enhanced the content if only the protagonist was a woman.
Name 5 M2F games that you think would have a better story if the M2F component was removed.


Bugs:
The Quality 3 and 4 recipes give body+sanity and stamina points respectively.
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The passage of time seems odd when coming home from places. I don't know if this is intentional or not.
Ex.:
Going to shop 1 dot.
Coming back from shop 5 dots.
Total time cost of shopping 6 dots.
Saving game 5 dots.
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Can't wait to see the green ghost possession implemented in the conversations with them and how it'll change stuff.
I hope the player's eyes flash green when it tries to hijack a response, like when the stun is triggered.
Thank you for the commentary. It's nice to see how things are shaping up outside your own perspective.
A supporter once sent me a message that it felt weird that Kari signed up the protagonist for the pregnancy program. That it was out of character. It completely blew my mind as I couldn't refute it at the time.

Again, I don't consider current time consumption a bug. Why do you think this is a problem?

I can't recreate Kari's bug. Are you sure you were using the latest version? Do you have any idea what you did for it to happen?
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songpill55

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Dec 28, 2017
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I don't care it is M2F or Female protagonist, just don't make your game into freakin 'cooking simulator pregnant edition'
If the player wants to see preg content, we must cook hard and play puzzle too? Is this a porn game or puzzle+cooking game?
Puzzle is fine but with stamina? Are you seriously not sadist?
 
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unniex

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Mar 10, 2020
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I don't care it is M2F or Female protagonist, just don't make your game into freakin 'cooking simulator pregnant edition'
If the player wants to see preg content, we must cook hard and play puzzle too? Is this a porn game or puzzle+cooking game?
Puzzle is fine but with stamina? Are you seriously not sadist?
I'll have to add a puzzle to the very start of the game to filter as many of you as possible.
 

Samjaza

Newbie
Jun 10, 2017
25
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Ok, I guess it's time talk about this again.

The original demo was proof of concept. I had a bunch of sprites and animations I wanted to showcase that I painstakingly stitched together into something resembling a game.
It was the first time I tried making a game. I had no idea what I was doing, how I should advertise it, who the intended audience was, what to expect. Nothing. In that sense it's completely true - the game wasn't intended to be M2F. It wasn't intended to ne anything. And since it didn't have a plot, the gender didn't matter either.
That was 3 years ago. Where have you been all this time to now pop up and be surprised the game isn't turning out the way you want?

The moment you introduce context, things like gender start to matter. I could NOT write anything remotely competent with a gender neutral protagonist. Writing is hard enough as is for me, without resorting to esoteric techniques.

Could you write 2 routes one for male and one for female instead? Sure, you can also make 2 different games, or 20. If it's not apparent I barely have time to work on one.

Could you make a game without a plot and characters? Yes, but it's uninteresting to me. The fetishes I like live and die through social interactions. Even pregnancy. A game that has no characters to acknowledge changes makes the changes meaningless. I won't force myself to make something I can't enjoy myself.
I'll go a step further. You can blame Magical Camp for being one of the 3 games directly responsible for this project existing. It was proof of concept to me that it is possible to make a game about feminization that I could personally enjoy. Without it this project would have never went past the showcase stage.
And by extension Coffee Story Extra would also not be made, because I would simply lack the resources for it.

I've added a freeplay mode. All it does is removes all story and character interactions and changes the protagonist to female from the start.
I don't know if I'm making things better or worse, since I clearly didn't attract the audience I wanted.
At the moment the only way you get to access this is by setting "story" to 0 in the config.ini

To address you specifically,

I don't understand. Are you implying I should feel sympathy towards people that don't like M2F games because I don't either?
That's nonsensical. The group you're talking about doesn't like M2F content in general. I just don't like most M2F games.


Because the story isn't about a protagonist that gets turned into a donkey. It's about a male protagonist that gets feminized, has to deal with it and find a way to turn back. If you cut it out there's almost no story left. Certainly no character development.


Name 5 M2F games that you think would have a better story if the M2F component was removed.



Thank you for the commentary. It's nice to see how things are shaping up outside your own perspective.
A supporter once sent me a message that it felt weird that Kari signed up the protagonist for the pregnancy program. That it was out of character. It completely blew my mind as I couldn't refute it at the time.

Again, I don't consider current time consumption a bug. Why do you think this is a problem?

I can't recreate Kari's bug. Are you sure you were using the latest version? Do you have any idea what you did for it to happen?
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I really like the game as it has been developing over the years.
I would much rather you just keep going ahead with your plans.
Its just the vocal minority that like to complain.
 
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