Ren'Py College Craze [v0.7] [Pretty Ink]

[BenHatira]

How the heck can one claim with straight face their game is "with no unrealistic, male gaze-led characters or slut shaming" when the antagonist is a crazy superstalker whose entire schtick is slut-shaming..?

Yeah i mean honestly, it's a game about a college girl that goes full on slut mode according to your choices - even without it (personally i try to play her as a lesbian but that's about 30 mins of gameplay at the end of the day ).

I mean let's be honest here, there wasn't a update for the Trish path in 0.7 which leads to 0.8, and 0.8 will be considered the ending of the game by her (the dev) ...

In other words a lesbian path is as useless as a good girl playthrough in this game.

You either get fucked by a huge amount of dicks or your playthrough is just some boring ass read ...

There is no realism here just a girl getting dicked down and corrupted !

(pat member btw)

 

[Geigi]

How the heck can one claim with straight face their game is "with no unrealistic, male gaze-led characters or slut shaming" when the antagonist is a crazy superstalker whose entire schtick is slut-shaming..?

I've only saw Lorrae talking about the game on her Facebook page Sluttygirlproblems and not Pretty.

 

[Geigi]

Yeah i mean honestly, it's a game about a college girl that goes full on slut mode according to your choices - even without it (personally i try to play her as a lesbian but that's about 30 mins of gameplay at the end of the day ).

I mean let's be honest here, there wasn't a update for the Trish path in 0.7 which leads to 0.8, and 0.8 will be considered the ending of the game by her (the dev) ...

In other words a lesbian path is as useless as a good girl playthrough in this game.

You either get fucked by a huge amount of dicks or your playthrough is just some boring ass read ...

There is no realism here just a girl getting dicked down and corrupted !

(pat member btw)

Some player asked her if the game is based on Pretty's college experiences or someone she knows, her being hush-hush about it is telling everything. College is known for partying and hooking up, so the game in that way is realistic. Also, Pretty is not a fan of corruption. The game is unique because you can actually choose if you want to have sex, with whom or stop it. Definitely, one of the best games here.

 

[ffive]

I've only saw Lorrae talking about the game on her Facebook page Sluttygirlproblems and not Pretty.

I was referring to description of the podcast on the linked page, which included this:

Lorrae chats with Pretty Ink, the anonymous creator of the College Craze role playing game. In this playfully sensual game, you’ll escape into an erotic campus that’s a choose-your-own adventure of sexy exploration – exploring themes of consent, navigating relationship decisions, and following your desires - with no unrealistic, male gaze-led characters or slut shaming!

I have, perhaps naively, presumed that summary was based on the content of the discussion, and how the author has described it.

 

[Amnelis]

At the end of the day it's still a porn game made to be tintilating and exciting but when you compare it to similar games you find on this site I'd say that description is pretty solid. Having a character who slut shames the MC doesn't mean the game as a whole/dev endorses that or wants the player to agree with that either. To use a specific example, it has some similarities to Good Girl Gone Bad & they include similar kinks but they're quite different.

In GGGB the MC seems more of a sexy character the player can act as a unseen hand to lead her into corruption or not. The former including a "proper" corruption path where the game essentially tells you she has become a bimbo. NPCs feel more like they're there to fill in porn tropes.

The MC in College Daze seems to be more of a clean slate for the player to put themselves in her shoes. She can sleep around with questionable people, get into lewd situations, etc but she never goes down a OTT corruption path. NPCs are tropey but more toned down, made to be more alluring to the player.

 

[ffive]

The thing is, i'm not even sure what "no slut shaming" is supposed to mean in this context, nor why this game is supposedly different in this aspect, presumably from other porn games? Because if anything, in general these other games tend to treat the "corruption" of the MC as the desired goal for the player to chase, and not something they chastise them for attaining.

 

[Amnelis]

I agree they could've done without that bit as it's not the best word to use in this context, it could lead into people thinking the game has a different atmosphere like nothing bad ever happens & there are no "bad" characters.

For what they meant with it, IMO, is that some games make you feel like you're watching the corruption path unfold like a car crash, getting satisfaction whenever the MC gets put in her place as she sinks lower into a morally bankrupt lifestyle until she reaches the point of no return. They're written with a very specific audience in mind that enjoys that type of corruption content for the morbid side of it. It's like the corruption is simultaneously glorified but chastised. The stakes are usually much higher too, like GGGB's MC can end up a college dropout that becomes the plaything of a gang. So far CC's MC can fumble her grades, have lots of questionable casual sex & be a cam girl.

Of course that's all subjective though, and people who enjoy that type of corruption could very well enjoy College Craze, but it does have a different vibe.

 

[Geigi]

The thing is, i'm not even sure what "no slut shaming" is supposed to mean in this context, nor why this game is supposedly different in this aspect, presumably from other porn games? Because if anything, in general these other games tend to treat the "corruption" of the MC as the desired goal for the player to chase, and not something they chastise them for attaining.

I'll confuse you even more. For example: both GGGB and CC are written by women. Most otome players hate GGGB but love CC. Why? Answers are more or less the same and it's that GGGB is a male fantasy, have incest and is hardcore. Basically, it's like watching porn for men. CC is more otome like style(more focus on romance, lighter kinks). Otome players are more into erotic content then porn, meaning descriptive text, less or no explicit images(if there are explicit cgs, focus must be on men not fmc-basically female point of view). That's why fanfiction and online dark romance books are porn for women. Women like 50 shades of Grey book, but in the movie during sex scenes they've wanted focus on naked Christian not Anastasia.

 

[ffive]

Most otome players hate GGGB but love CC.

Hmm but are you sure that most otome players actually love this game, or is it more of projection of your own evaluation on the majority..? I ask, because i play otome games too, but when it comes to GGGB and CC, while i perfectly get the complaints about GGGB style and nature, my feelings about CC couldn't really be described as "love".

This is mainly down to the cast being largely piece of shits i'd want to do anything with but romance, and at least some of the plot lines relying on the MC being a similar piece of shit towards her supposed "best friend" or other people. Yes, otome games have some assholes, but the keyword is "some" whereas here i struggle to come up with anyone remotely decent (that actually has more presence in the game than a single scene, if that) Also, i'm not really buying the idea that CC lacks the "male gaze" aesthetics -- the CG for its sex scenes really didn't strike me as any different in this aspect, with MC always being prominent part of them and more often than not the focus.

 

[Geigi]

Hmm but are you sure that most otome players actually love this game, or is it more of projection of your own evaluation on the majority..? I ask, because i play otome games too, but when it comes to GGGB and CC, while i perfectly get the complaints about GGGB style and nature, my feelings about CC couldn't really be described as "love".

This is mainly down to the cast being largely piece of shits i'd want to do anything with but romance, and at least some of the plot lines relying on the MC being a similar piece of shit towards her supposed "best friend" or other people. Yes, otome games have some assholes, but the keyword is "some" whereas here i struggle to come up with anyone remotely decent (that actually has more presence in the game than a single scene, if that) Also, i'm not really buying the idea that CC lacks the "male gaze" aesthetics -- the CG for its sex scenes really didn't strike me as any different in this aspect, with MC always being prominent part of them and more often than not the focus.

They sure recommends CC to new players, as for lis, possessive guys are popular in otome games, but I've seen complaints of the cgs in CC though. Even they among themselves argue what's a female gaze... As for why gggb is not an otome and cc is, you'll have to ask otome experts on Reddit.

 

[ffive]

as for lis, possessive guys are popular in otome games

Yeah, i know, it's just, like i said --totally my impression mind you-- with CC it's different in the sense the LIs aren't just possessive the way you'd find in otome game but they're plain unpleasant people in all senses of the word. Cheaters, liars, assholes, misogynists, criminals, you name it and it's all there and then some. You can find this sort of character or two in your average otome game, sure, but here you can't swing a cat without hitting one, and they're also LIs who seemingly get the most content, while others get scraps, if that. I don't know if this is the author's personal preferences influencing the lopsided focus, but the result is what it is.

I don't doubt it's enjoyable game for some players, but the way the plot and characters developed in it was a major disappointment to me, so i can't help but scoff a little when i see this game pushed as supposed improvement over your average porn game. Because not only large parts of the content require MC to act like any other mindless bimbo protagonist of a porn game to access, but if anything, i feel like this game promotes/glorifies characters and behaviors worse than simple "slut-shaming", and i don't think it deserves any praise for it.

 

[Geigi]

Yeah, i know, it's just, like i said --totally my impression mind you-- with CC it's different in the sense the LIs aren't just possessive the way you'd find in otome game but they're plain unpleasant people in all senses of the word. Cheaters, liars, assholes, misogynists, criminals, you name it and it's all there and then some. You can find this sort of character or two in your average otome game, sure, but here you can't swing a cat without hitting one, and they're also LIs who seemingly get the most content, while others get scraps, if that. I don't know if this is the author's personal preferences influencing the lopsided focus, but the result is what it is.

I don't doubt it's enjoyable game for some players, but the way the plot and characters developed in it was a major disappointment to me, so i can't help but scoff a little when i see this game pushed as supposed improvement over your average porn game. Because not only large parts of the content require MC to act like any other mindless bimbo protagonist of a porn game to access, but if anything, i feel like this game promotes/glorifies characters and behaviors worse than simple "slut-shaming", and i don't think it deserves any praise for it.

I think that this game is bias because while it's not first explicit otome game(translated or indie,)CC have more content. Usually, otome have either fade to black sex scenes, text only sexual content or 1-3 cgs per guy. This one have a customization of the fmc, variety in virgin/not and other sex scenes, more cgs...I hope the game will be fully completed because Pretty have another game idea in mind and I'm curious what is it about.

 

[BenHatira]

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Progress Update 7/12

• Juniors and up, please vote for a future postcard pairing!
• I sat down with Lorrae from The Pleasure Provocateur and had a great talk about College Craze and more.
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• Cookouts and pool time! Check out July’s postcard to see the Arroyo family having a blast
• July’s 3x3 die-cut sticker preview below. This sticker set has stickers for two of our favorite girls plus a PopMe design for the infinite-scrolling lovers!

Hi everyone,
Progress was a little slow this week, but I'm hoping to crank out some more words this weekend! I've got 18,880 words down, with some quick visits to prettys-thots to share the writing experience with all of you (And get in my head while I'm writing).
For postcards, I'm open to hearing about what you guys would like to see on them. Almost everyone's been featured at this point, so it would be fun to stir the pot and get some crazy scenarios or funny parings together. Feel free to share them in the comments of the poll, and vote for some ideas for the upcoming months!
Speaking of postcards, I'm closer to finding a printing and mailing partner that will make the process of getting the postcards to you all way more efficient.
Remember you can find a walkthrough for Chapter 7, and you can get it here for sophomores and above. I hope it helps you get the real scoop on the ins and outs of Sugardale, and lets you in on the number of variations of scenes you may have missed (cough) GabesScenesHas6DifferentVariations (cough)
I talked about College Craze and why making sex-positive games is so important to me on an episode of The Pleasure Provocateur.

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I’ll share more info closer to the date but I’ll be a guest on another podcast in August to talk more about College Craze, so I’ll keep you posted on that!

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[BenHatira]

Btw. Dev loves ghost deleting comments on his/her/they patreon posts. Even if they are not in any way against the rules or rude (rather scammy action if you ask me).

Take this the way you want ...

 

[Elo91]

So umm, I'm still in the start so I don't have much to say yet but there's something really odd with the settings & controls.

• Sometimes (after character creation for example) LMB goes back instead of forward
• The text speed setting doesn't save at all, so I have to double click every single dialogue
  • Useless and very personal issue (sorry xD) of a sidenote here but I will never understand slow paced dialogue, ever.
  • It's my main dealbreaker and an instant uninstall for RPGM games for example. Especially RPGM games where the skip doesn't work but confirm / cancel autoselects dialogue. Instant uninstall.
• With the mouse issues I then tried moving to keyboard if that worked better
  • The arrow navigation is wonky and just flies right past most of the buttons in random order
  • Save menu doesn't highlight currently selected save, so there's no way to handle that via keyboard at all
• Sometimes the UI just stucks. Whether you use LMB, space or whatever, nothing does anything so I have to boot the game

Idk what's going on and it may be something on my end (never had most of these problems before tho) and I may very well end up loving the game as I keep at it, so I don't mean to be mean here... But I really hope these usability issues get sorted out in the future! Clunkiest Ren'Py controls yet for me. Anyway, wish you all well and thanks for reading!

Edit: Moving on I have to say I'm really enjoying the game so far! Just wanted to end on a more positive note. <3

Edit 2: Ok so god I'm glad I kept playing! This game is amazing! Just so well written and full of fun (and naughty) characters and scenes!

 

[ffive]

Useless and very personal issue (sorry xD) of a sidenote here but I will never understand slow paced dialogue, ever.

Personal take, but having the text unfold (and thus reading it) at typical speed of speech makes for a more cinematic experience --as it's easier to imagine it being spoken-- and helps to pay attention to details that a person would frequently overlook when rush-reading as if their life depended on it.

That said though, the speed reset bug is annoying to pretty much everyone, regardless of your preferences. No idea how such thing could've slipped through, short of the author not playing their own game at all.

 

[fqumods]

I do think a lot of the constructive critique is valid and of course there are still issues with the game when it comes to content, not even going into the dev's practices and lack of transparency with their patrons. I'm not saying anyone, especially patrons, should just be happy with the game.

That said, there are barely any Western porn games like this that even pretends to care what a female audience thinks. Seriously, name at least 5 of them on this site that's better than this game and I'll wait.

It's actually hilarious going into a Fenoxo thread (just mentioning them as one of the largest Western game devs in this genre) for any of their games if you dare to play a straight/bi female character which is an option that the devs themselves allow you to do, not just a mod or something that players have to harass the creators for to do in-game, unlike certain things lol. You can critique the characterization or even just the lack of porn for them and you'll get shouted down by a bunch of fans helpfully reminding you nobody actually cares what those players think because they're not the real target audience.

In short, I'm not counting out this game. There's barely any options as is.

 

[exks67]

Yeah i mean honestly, it's a game about a college girl that goes full on slut mode according to your choices - even without it (personally i try to play her as a lesbian but that's about 30 mins of gameplay at the end of the day ).

I mean let's be honest here, there wasn't a update for the Trish path in 0.7 which leads to 0.8, and 0.8 will be considered the ending of the game by her (the dev) ...

In other words a lesbian path is as useless as a good girl playthrough in this game.

You either get fucked by a huge amount of dicks or your playthrough is just some boring ass read ...

There is no realism here just a girl getting dicked down and corrupted !

(pat member btw)

I disagree. I played virgin, good girl, with Jay as the only RO and I've unlocked so much new scenes. I suggest replaying and making different choices.

 

[Ravnen]

Yeah i mean honestly, it's a game about a college girl that goes full on slut mode according to your choices - even without it (personally i try to play her as a lesbian but that's about 30 mins of gameplay at the end of the day ).

I mean let's be honest here, there wasn't a update for the Trish path in 0.7 which leads to 0.8, and 0.8 will be considered the ending of the game by her (the dev) ...

In other words a lesbian path is as useless as a good girl playthrough in this game.

You either get fucked by a huge amount of dicks or your playthrough is just some boring ass read ...

There is no realism here just a girl getting dicked down and corrupted !

(pat member btw)

For what I understood on the Dev this update will be the last indeed, in the story line. Not said by that, that she wont tie up loose ends. I mean cmon she has a lot of stories on the board that needs to be tied up. All most all the females in the game seems romanceable, and Im guessing shes not going to leave some of the romancing stories hanging in thin air. So the main story is being tied up in the next update, but I believe we will see smaller updates to tie up loose ends in the coming time..

 

[ffive]

All most all the females in the game seems romanceable, and Im guessing shes not going to leave some of the romancing stories hanging in thin air.

I'd expect this to be exactly what happens, considering apparent lack of interest in developing these story lines to begin with.