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I am absolutely in love with the "only on special occasions" option on the sharing with eustace route. Played a few NTS type games and it always feels like you have no control. Suddenly she's spending just as much (if not more) time with the others. This is very nice...I mean i expect anyway since it doesn't go much past that. Solid update. The scenes feel a little rushed at times though.
Always happy when folks get their options.

My fear however remains. Just like with BaD or other narratives, the more you branch the longer development takes. Hopefully the EusticemoreSharing flag is relatively small. Let Cindy play with others more and keep the central couple balanced relative to the sharing/swinging. I enjoy seeing healthy NTS reinforcing a couple rather than stealth leading to NTR vibes cause you never see the main couple having sex anymore like they are in a 20 year marriage and 3 kids.
 

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Always happy when folks get their options.

My fear however remains. Just like with BaD or other narratives, the more you branch the longer development takes. Hopefully the EusticemoreSharing flag is relatively small. Let Cindy play with others more and keep the central couple balanced relative to the sharing/swinging. I enjoy seeing healthy NTS reinforcing a couple rather than stealth leading to NTR vibes cause you never see the main couple having sex anymore like they are in a 20 year marriage and 3 kids.
It felt like the game BEFORE this option popped up was going to be an occiasional share her with eustace game. So that's basically where i feel like my playthrough ended. I agree that him now branching out and adding a full sharing route is going to cause some bloat. I would honestly prefer a no sharing game except that eustace gets to join in occasionally. If that is the no sharing route i'll switch to that. cause i like the DP/MP scene with cindy and eustace earlier. But her going out and getting railed when mc isnt there isn't my favorite. If MC isn't busy while she's getting fucked his dick better be in one of her other holes...or another girls. none of this sit at home while she gets fucked with your cock out games.
 
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I just subbed to him & Idk how this game has attracted so many ntr fans lol. Like they're the 2nd biggest subs after nts fans. Maybe developer should make it more clear that this game revolves around nts+sharing & netori
That is true of many of the major NTS titles that came out since MNGF. The devs have generally avoided ruling out NTR branches or events to keep their "options" open. The Dev for this game actively stated that NTR was possible down the road, but was not sure yet. So you get the groups fighting for control of the future. Also many NTR gamers will play NTS or Netori, but they will try to get their branch installed. However this leads to game bloat. And as was stated it would be nonsensical in this game at this point as Netori and NTR of the type being asked for would require wholesale character changes to not swallow itself whole. Not to mention the dev cycle bloat.
 

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It felt like the game BEFORE this option popped up was going to be an occiasional share her with eustace game. So that's basically where i feel like my playthrough ended. I agree that him now branching out and adding a full sharing route is going to cause some bloat. I would honestly prefer a no sharing game except that eustace gets to join in occasionally. If that is the no sharing route i'll switch to that. cause i like the DP/MP scene with cindy and eustace earlier. But her going out and getting railed when mc isnt there isn't my favorite.
I would rather Cindy move to other guys. For me the Eustioce content and focus is causing a drag in movement to other things. In truth I would more so want the other girls to move into the NTS sphere and it not become the Cindy only zone.
 

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That is true of many of the major NTS titles that came out since MNGF. The devs have generally avoided ruling out NTR branches or events to keep their "options" open. The Dev for this game actively stated that NTR was possible down the road, but was not sure yet. So you get the groups fighting for control of the future. Also many NTR gamers will play NTS or Netori, but they will try to get their branch installed. However this leads to game bloat. And as was stated it would be nonsensical in this game at this point as Netori and NTR of the type being asked for would require wholesale character changes to not swallow itself whole. Not to mention the dev cycle bloat.
this is why it's high time to split nts into two categories - swinging/sharing and humiliation/cuckolding. Mngf fits the 1st category. Many folks equate nts with humiliation/cuckolding and that leads to a lot of confusion. Ntr is very well self-explanatory. I think when you're making a nts game, a lot of people see potential paths for ntr which for sure exists in every nts game
 

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I would rather Cindy move to other guys. For me the Eustioce content and focus is causing a drag in movement to other things. In truth I would more so want the other girls to move into the NTS sphere and it not become the Cindy only zone.
cindy moving to other guys makes zero sense based on her character development. i suppose the new power she wields could be written in as a corruption route, but i feel like that just destroys who he's written her to be and people will leave in droves if he corrupts their waifu. Her occasionally getting a second hole filled while fucking MC is one thing or a swinging situation with another couple while together is good, but Cindy hasn't felt like the type to enjoy fucking anyone else if MC isn't involved.
 
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cindy moving to other guys makes zero sense based on her character development. i suppose the new power she wields could be written in as a corruption route, but i feel like that just destroys who he's written her to be and people will leave in droves if he corrupts their waifu.
He has actively multiple times stated that Cindy is a slut. Depending on the PT she has had sex with strangers and men she has known for 1 minute. And this is where NTS and Eustice bug me. We are basically wanting her to move from her already established partner to just another partner. It is like NTR but being nice about it? Cindy being with other men is well within the written character. She is not in love with Eustice, and that people are seeing it as such because he was just he first (depending on PT choices) proves other points I have made. Despite what she says after their encounters we ignore it cause what we see on screen as "actions" will always override such.
 

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He has actively multiple times stated that Cindy is a slut. Depending on the PT she has had sex with strangers and men she has known for 1 minute. And this is where NTS and Eustice bug me. We are basically wanting her to move from her already established partner to just another partner. It is like NTR but being nice about it? Cindy being with other men is well within the written character. She is not in love with Eustice, and that people are seeing it as such because he was just he first (depending on PT choices) proves other points I have made. Despite what she says after their encounters we ignore it cause what we see on screen as "actions" will always override such.
Ok, so they way you said it I was assuming you meant her going out and picking up dudes by herself and fucking around. I think we're on the same page. I like sharing her with other dudes when MC is present, but the last scene with Eustace where they didn't just go home together and all fuck around TOGETHER I wasn't a fan cause it doesn't feel right for Cindy...not that her getting another cock isn't up her wheelhouse, but them not being together during it seems off.
 

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this is why it's high time to split nts into two categories - swinging/sharing and humiliation/cuckolding. Mngf fits the 1st category. Many folks equate nts with humiliation/cuckolding and that leads to a lot of confusion. Ntr is very well self-explanatory. I think when you're making a nts game, a lot of people see potential paths for ntr which for sure exists in every nts game
Difficult one here. I have mostly seen it associated with Sharing/Swinging, not cuckoldry which many in the posts i have been around to NTR. But that could change with whichever channel your on. Netorare is also not as narrow as people think it to be but it often only portrayed in one way so that is what the 'Meta' becomes. But yes many asking for NTR, are asking for that same pattern/type we have seen time and time again.
 

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ALso...WHY THE FUCK isn't Cindy joining in on these girls when they bring them home? I thought for sure the scene at the end when you tell Eustace he can't have your girl would involve some G/G action, but she didn't join.
 

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Ok, so they way you said it I was assuming you meant her going out and picking up dudes by herself and fucking around. I think we're on the same page. I like sharing her with other dudes when MC is present, but the last scene with Eustace where they didn't just go home together and all fuck around TOGETHER I wasn't a fan cause it doesn't feel right for Cindy...not that her getting another cock isn't up her wheelhouse, but them not being together during it seems off.
Yeah if you go back over the last few pages me and Ass Fan ran through a brainstorming session of the ages on all the kinky couple swapping partner antics the MC/Cindy could get into. I like them together in scenes as well cause Cindy is at her best when she cuckqueen the girls and then teases the hell out of their BFs to get them to have sex with her. But we need to introduce more guys to the mix and get the other girls into sharing space. While also not over using Cindy every update.
 
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Yeah if you go back over the last few pages me and Ass Fan ran through a brainstorming session of the ages on all the kinky couple swapping partner antics the MC/Cindy could get into. I like them together in scenes as well cause Cindy is at her best when she cuckqueen the girls and then teases the hell out of their BFs to get them to have sex with her. But we need to introduce more guys to the mix and get the other girls into sharing space. While also not over using Cindy every update.
I HOPING this is the route Vanilla is going to take. Give me all forms of 3somes and foursomes with them together in the same room, but i'll pass on sending Cindy off to someone else's place for the night. And i was also worried you wanting Eustace out...I need pink fox girl in my life too. Monique is a fucking smokeshow. Now that it's been in her ass I better see her getting double stuffed soon.
 

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Difficult one here. I have mostly seen it associated with Sharing/Swinging, not cuckoldry which many in the posts i have been around to NTR.
Nts = netorase. This term was popularized by hentai artists and if you search for nts on nhentai, 80-90% of them revolves around cuckoldery/humiliation. The core concept is Mc should be aware of Fmc's activities. Which holds true for the sharing/swinging & cuckold/humiliation path.
Netorare is also not as narrow as people think it to be but it often only portrayed in one way so that is what the 'Meta' becomes.
There's not much confusion about ntr. If your partner cheats behind you back, that's ntr
 
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I HOPING this is the route Vanilla is going to take. Give me all forms of 3somes and foursomes with them together in the same room, but i'll pass on sending Cindy off to someone else's place for the night. And i was also worried you wanting Eustace out...I need pink fox girl in my life too. Monique is a fucking smokeshow. Now that it's been in her ass I better see her getting double stuffed soon.
Yeah unfortunately be its definition here this could not occur on the "Vanilla" path. in fact Vanilla is a horrid name. What you have is a Pure Netori(No sharing) route and a Netori/NTS(sharing/swinging) route.

Time for Will to introduce Monique to a third partner! Already banged her in public like Eustice said he would not ever get to do.
 

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OHHHH...ok, im about to be unpopular i think...but I'd LOVE to see our resident Lycanthrope go full beastmode on Cindy too. Now that Will is basically god-mode there's no real threat from the wolf so it could happen that they'd share her together.
 
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Yeah unfortunately be its definition here this could not occur on the "Vanilla" path. in fact Vanilla is a horrid name. What you have is a Pure Netori(No sharing) route and a Netori/NTS(sharing/swinging) route.

Time for Will to introduce Monique to a third partner! Already banged her in public like Eustice said he would not ever get to do.
Yeah...I don't think Vanilla means Vanilla in this game. I think it just means she ain't gonna be running off getting fucked without Will, but i think sharing will still happen.
 

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Nts = netorase. This term was popularized by hentai artists and if you search for nts on nhentai, 80-90% of them revolves around cuckoldery/humiliation. The core concept is Mc should be aware of Fmc's activities. Which holds true for the sharing/swinging & cuckold/humiliation path.

There's not much confusion about ntr. If your partner cheats behind you back, that's ntr
Yeah, lets avoid the tag war. It is meaningless because we all define it differently. It does not matter what it meant originally just what current culture uses it as. And currently we are all over the place because the call encompase so much more now.

Games tag with NTR has behind the back cheating. But also cheating in which the MC knows. So instead of focusing on which is NTR or not. I just prefer to talk about betrayal where the MC is oblivious vs where the MC knows. Also how does the MC respond to said act is another component that could change from story to story but rarely does.
 
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Yeah...I don't think Vanilla means Vanilla in this game. I think it just means she ain't gonna be running off getting fucked without Will.
The Vanilla path she does not have sex at all with anyone other than the MC. Each time an option comes up for "Vanilla" (ugh) vs "Sharing" if you select Vanilla, Cindy(or whatever girl it is being applied to) does not have sex with other people besides the MC.
 

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The Vanilla path she does not have sex at all with anyone other than the MC. Each time an option comes up for "Vanilla" (ugh) vs "Sharing" if you select Vanilla, Cindy(or whatever girl it is being applied to) does not have sex with other people besides the MC.
OK...i'm not sure what you're talking about cause after you make that choice the only sex scene is the last one. So there aren't any scenes for you to miss out on...or did we select this at some point in the past to before the option to share her with Eustace at the end? If you're correct it WOULD help me understand why Cindy didn't get involved with Monique during the final scene.

Edit: I ahve a shit memory. I can remember the basics of the story, but if we've made a Vanilla/sharing choice in the past i don't remember it. Unless you're referring to the choice whether or not to let Cindy fuck Eustace that time in the dungeon so long ago...when we got to DP her. I always figured that was just an in the moment choice without any real impact down the road.
 
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Yeah, lets avoid the tag war. It is meaningless because we all define it differently. It does not matter what it meant originally just what current culture uses it as. And currently we are all over the place because the call encompase so much more now.

Games tag with NTR has behind the back cheating. But also cheating in which the MC knows. So instead of focusing on which is NTR or not. I just prefer to talk about betrayal where the MC is oblivious vs where the MC knows. Also how does the MC respond to said act is another component that could change from story to story but rarely does.
or we better define it in broader terms. You can easily drive away ntr fans from nts community by explicitly saying - nts in this game will only revolve around consensual swinging & sharing. More devs should do it. I see a lot of infighting in the nts community over this small issue & have personally seen some nts games abandoned 'cause the devs feel too much pressure to appease every side
 
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