Recommending Complete Netorase & Sharing Games Master List

[NTR Sommelier]

NTS genre got diluted quite a bit with this new approach of “Alpha MC who is ladies favorite doing NTS just for the sake of it” . Yeah i get 1 inch cocked worm thing wasn’t brilliant either, but how am i supposed to feel the effect of NTS if MC is packing 10 inch cock and fucking LIs better than anyone?

I think the only good example right now is Vulgar reverie. Long Story Short is also nice, i think.

But some mentioned games like My New Girlfriend or Shadows of Ambition are terrible examples of NTS, since by design they are harem games with icing of NTS. Especially the second one should be called Shadow of My New Girlfriend since one of the devs is literally licking its boots everywhere he goes.

I couldn't agree more even if I tried. NTS is being dilluted to mean any form of sharing, this is a fact. Meanwhile, if you read the definition of NTS on the japanese wikipedia, it pretty much states it is a maso/submissive cuck fetish. Vulgar Reverie is the gold standard right now because (besides the gorgeous art) it is focused on the true dynamic and vibe of NTS, although I do have some concerns about the so called "dom" path, last update in particular was perfect display of what a true NTS should look like.

 

[Hentai_Kishi]

I couldn't agree more even if I tried. NTS is being dilluted to mean any form of sharing, this is a fact. Meanwhile, if you read the definition of NTS on the japanese wikipedia, it pretty much states it is a maso/submissive cuck fetish. Vulgar Reverie is the gold standard right now because (besides the gorgeous art) it is focused on the true dynamic and vibe of NTS, although I do have some concerns about the so called "dom" path, last update in particular was perfect display of what a true NTS should look like.

Hard disagree.

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is the actual meaning. There was never the maso aspect and I never quite understood why people try to force that it's a maso only type of fetish. If you like that and that's your dynamic then good for you but netorase is just partner sharing. In the english speaking world we have words like cuck and stag to differentiate the dynamics of being a dom or a sub in a sharing relationship but to be quite honest there are a lot of NTS fans who despise being humiliated or mocked and you can see japanese games being about the male MC deciding to share his partner merely because it's a dominant power trip for him. Sharing your significant other has nothing to do with Femdom.

 

[NTR Sommelier]

Hard disagree.

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is the actual meaning. There was never the maso aspect and I never quite understood why people try to force that it's a maso only type of fetish. If you like that and that's your dynamic then good for you but netorase is just partner sharing. In the english speaking world we have words like cuck and stag to differentiate the dynamics of being a dom or a sub in a sharing relationship but to be quite honest there are a lot of NTS fans who despise being humiliated or mocked and you can see japanese games being about the male MC deciding to share his partner merely because it's a dominant power trip for him. Sharing your significant other has nothing to do with Femdom.

Japanese definition from wikipedia:

寝取らせ男性自らが自分の恋人や妻を他の男性に抱かせて、精神的な性的快感や嗜虐感を得るというジャンルの作品を指す。

"NTS (Netorase)" refers to a genre of works where a man willingly allows his lover or wife to be intimate with another man, deriving psychological sexual pleasure or a sense of masochistic enjoyment from the experience.

The word "嗜虐感" (shigyukukan) in English can be translated as "masochistic feeling" or "sense of masochism." It refers to the psychological pleasure or satisfaction someone experiences from being dominated, humiliated, or witnessing or allowing someone they care about to be involved with someone else in a way that involves power dynamics or emotional discomfort.

In this context, it refers to a type of pleasure derived from a situation that might involve submission, humiliation, or the discomfort of being emotionally or physically "hurt" in a way that leads to personal satisfaction.

I will stick with the japanese (i.e. original) definition of NTS rather than the definition invented by a bunch of random westerners on VNDB.

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[WMMID]

Japanese definition from wikipedia:

寝取らせ男性自らが自分の恋人や妻を他の男性に抱かせて、精神的な性的快感や嗜虐感を得るというジャンルの作品を指す。

"NTS (Netorase)" refers to a genre of works where a man willingly allows his lover or wife to be intimate with another man, deriving psychological sexual pleasure or a sense of masochistic enjoyment from the experience.

The word "嗜虐感" (shigyukukan) in English can be translated as "masochistic feeling" or "sense of masochism." It refers to the psychological pleasure or satisfaction someone experiences from being dominated, humiliated, or witnessing or allowing someone they care about to be involved with someone else in a way that involves power dynamics or emotional discomfort.

In this context, it refers to a type of pleasure derived from a situation that might involve submission, humiliation, or the discomfort of being emotionally or physically "hurt" in a way that leads to personal satisfaction.

I will stick with the japanese (i.e. original) definition of NTS rather than the definition inbented by a bunch of random westerners on VNDB.

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Ultimately, you're fighting a losing battle because this particular forum is very anti-humiliation when it comes to netorase. Those that do like it would be better off creating a thread that caters to that specifically.

 

[Rob0bob]

So if anyone just goes to Wikipedia and edits the definition, you will accept that as the definition?
As has been shown here over and over ad nauseum, everyone has their own definition of NTS. The LIST author has given his parameters so, disagree all you like. He is just telling us his definition.

 

[NTR Sommelier]

Well if anyone has JAPANESE sources with definitions that contradict the one provided on Wikipedia, I'm willing to discuss them, The word 寝取らせ has a specific connotation in japanese, it cannot be dilluted into anything. For example as the equivalent of "swinging" because japanese has a more proper word for swinging (夫婦交換)

 

[JohnSmith7]

Who cares about definitions. You are ovethinking it. There are various different flavors to this kink. This thread is supposed to cover all of them. It is not NTS only, its in the title. NTS and Sharing.

 

[6ambino]

"NTS (Netorase)" refers to a genre of works where a man willingly allows his lover or wife to be intimate with another man, deriving psychological sexual pleasure or a sense of masochistic enjoyment from the experience.

You see there is "or" some kind of psychological sexual pleasure, so masochistic isn't exclusive here. It's like the one who wrote this definition couldn't name this fetish, so he went with masochistic because it is present in NTR, and "some other things". This a very poor definition from a NTR enthusiast, how is it legit? It doesn't even properly define anything other than the "man is willing".

Honestly, this requires a basic reading comprehension. I don't even need to search proper definitions.

The word "嗜虐感" (shigyukukan) in English can be translated as "masochistic feeling" or "sense of masochism." It refers to the psychological pleasure or satisfaction someone experiences from being dominated, humiliated, or witnessing or allowing someone they care about to be involved with someone else in a way that involves power dynamics or emotional discomfort.

For me, it translates to sadism, not masochism. A pretty huge difference, don't you think?

 

[yamp]

Well if anyone has JAPANESE sources with definitions that contradict the one provided on Wikipedia, I'm willing to discuss them, The word 寝取らせ has a specific connotation in japanese, it cannot be dilluted into anything. For example as the equivalent of "swinging" because japanese has a more proper word for swinging (夫婦交換)

Fuufu koukan for the ones that want to search for it. The term Swap in katakana is also in lots of titles. You can also find plenty of NTR under these titles (think in the lines of "swinging gone wrong")

 

[NTR Sommelier]

You see there is "or" some kind of psychological sexual pleasure, so masochistic isn't exclusive here. It's like the one who wrote this definition couldn't name this fetish, so he went with masochistic because it is present in NTR, and "some other things". This a very poor definition from a NTR enthusiast, how is it legit? It doesn't even properly define anything other than the "man is willing".

Honestly, this requires a basic reading comprehension. I don't even need to search proper definitions.



For me, it translates to sadism, not masochism. A pretty huge difference, don't you think?

"While the base word 嗜虐 can be understood as sadism, the context and dynamics between participants are key to interpreting it correctly. In the context of 寝取らせ, the MC derives pleasure from experiencing or being inflicted with emotional or psychological pain (which is why it’s written as 嗜虐感を得る). In this case, the MC is not inflicting pain on others, but rather, receiving it, which aligns with masochism, not sadism."

 

[Night Hacker]

Japanese definition from wikipedia:

寝取らせ男性自らが自分の恋人や妻を他の男性に抱かせて、精神的な性的快感や嗜虐感を得るというジャンルの作品を指す。

"NTS (Netorase)" refers to a genre of works where a man willingly allows his lover or wife to be intimate with another man, deriving psychological sexual pleasure or a sense of masochistic enjoyment from the experience.

The word "嗜虐感" (shigyukukan) in English can be translated as "masochistic feeling" or "sense of masochism." It refers to the psychological pleasure or satisfaction someone experiences from being dominated, humiliated, or witnessing or allowing someone they care about to be involved with someone else in a way that involves power dynamics or emotional discomfort.

In this context, it refers to a type of pleasure derived from a situation that might involve submission, humiliation, or the discomfort of being emotionally or physically "hurt" in a way that leads to personal satisfaction.

I will stick with the japanese (i.e. original) definition of NTS rather than the definition invented by a bunch of random westerners on VNDB.

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You missed an important word in the description: "deriving psychological sexual pleasure or a sense of masochistic enjoyment from the experience", the masochistic enjoyment is not a requirement, but an alternate reason for why they like it. The key definition is "a man willingly allows his lover or wife to be intimate with another man". Which is the definition most games tagged with NTR go by.

 

[blablablagivemethemoney]

mom the porn addicts are arguing about the definition of NTR/NTS/BSS/whatever again

 

[NTR Sommelier]

You missed an important word in the description: "deriving psychological sexual pleasure or a sense of masochistic enjoyment from the experience", the masochistic enjoyment is not a requirement, but an alternate reason for why they like it. The key definition is "a man willingly allows his lover or wife to be intimate with another man". Which is the definition most games tagged with NTR go by.

While the particle や in Japanese can be used to make lists, it doesn't always have the same strict meaning as 'and' in English. It often implies 'and so on' or 'among other things,' which leaves room for interpretation. In the phrase 精神的な性的快感や嗜虐感を得る, the や connects two types of pleasures—mental sexual pleasure and masochistic pleasure. Both 'and' and 'or' are reasonable translations here because や can express either a combination of both pleasures or a choice between them, depending on the context. So, 'and' works to indicate that both may be experienced, while 'or' can also work to suggest that one or the other is possible.

But that wasn't even my main original point with these posts, rather it was to show how much the "dominant alpha giga chad mc" is very far away from traditional nts.

 

[6ambino]

"While the base word 嗜虐 can be understood as sadism, the context and dynamics between participants are key to interpreting it correctly. In the context of 寝取らせ, the MC derives pleasure from experiencing or being inflicted with emotional or psychological pain (which is why it’s written as 嗜虐感を得る). In this case, the MC is not inflicting pain on others, but rather, receiving it, which aligns with masochism, not sadism."

What context? Do you mean NTR context? lol.
Where the inflicted with emotional or psychological pain in "寝取らせ" is, which just means Netorase in Japanese? If anything, it is the husband that can cause emotional pain to the shared wife, because she may feel mistreated, abandoned, or unloved. So sadism fits there.
That masochistic emotional pain is just yours delusion by projecting from the NTR perspective.

 

[zandalari]

Y'all ever sit down and think to yourselves: "Why am I arguing about dumb shit again?" Maybe you should.

Of all the threads/generals here, this might be the one most addicted to splitting hairs. An already niche fetish being carved up in more and more subcategories just so amateur linguists can argue about definitions. It doesn't matter. Fap to what you hard or make the games you want to make.

 

[6ambino]

Y'all ever sit down and think to yourselves: "Why am I arguing about dumb shit again?" Maybe you should.

Of all the threads/generals here, this might be the one most addicted to splitting hairs. An already niche fetish being carved up in more and more subcategories just so amateur linguists can argue about definitions. It doesn't matter. Fap to what you hard or make the games you want to make.

Huh? There is a very old separate thread for NTR and even cuckold. Plenty of space there for NTR connoisseurs.

 

[Jdsiis]

Bruh, y'all getting a PHD in NTS or something?

 

[darkjoker13]

With all due respect, in the Japanese anime and gaming industry, I believe that "swinging" in Japan doesn't primarily use the term 夫婦交換 but rather スワッピング (swapping). If you're looking for such content on DLsite or Pixiv, you should search for スワッピング. If you search for 夫婦交換, you’ll hardly find anything.

 

[blkcrow20]

Everyone has their own variation of meanings. You'll never get everyone to agree on one definition.

 

[milfraisin]

Bruh, y'all getting a PHD in NTS or something?

They're wasting time and energy on something so unnecessary.
Guys, the forum is to discuss games and educating each other about new sexy game options... Stick to that