gregers

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I see quite a few complaints about the NTR in the game. Allow me to remember

https://f95zone.to/threads/general-rules-updated-2026-01-03.5589/

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I could not have advised the NTR theme more clearly in the first post.
That's all fine and you're right, complaining about the existence of a given kink in a game just because you're not into it is tedious nonsense. But I don't think that's precisely what's happening in most of these comments.

I think there is some confusion about the game design though: Whether this is supposed to be a game where everything is optional and you can access sex scenes with everyone along NTR, sharing, or no-sharing lines, or this is intentionally a game primarily about trade-offs, where the MC will have to decide if he is willing to share and risk losing some of his "conquests" in order to access others.

Both types of game have merit, but it may be useful to be more clear about which design is intended.

If you've made a deliberate decision that anything involving Rupert, the girlfriend's family, Mark's mother etc. should be exclusive to players leaning into the sharing and NTR aspects, that's cool. But when those aspects are largely avoidable for large swathes of the game, players will probably keep being confused that that's no longer the case.
 

jpiddle

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Yeah... updates have been adding content without going back much, I think, but hopefully this will change in the future.
Or maybe someone will mod that and more in, who knows. Can't be that hard to throw some variables around and some people seemed interested in trying it.
Wow that sucks. So far the dev has done a good job of keeping ntr away if you don't want it but forcing it on you to get to another character kinda blows.
There's an extension for firefox you can download called that you can use to set variables. Right click, inspect, switch the inspect tab to twine hacker. Great for games like this. Used to be one for chrome also but chrome ban hammered it like a year ago when they changed extensions to make ad blockers more difficult.
 

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There's an extension for firefox you can download called that you can use to set variables. Right click, inspect, switch the inspect tab to twine hacker. Great for games like this. Used to be one for chrome also but chrome ban hammered it like a year ago when they changed extensions to make ad blockers more difficult.
There is SugarMelt.
 

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There's an extension for firefox you can download called that you can use to set variables. Right click, inspect, switch the inspect tab to twine hacker. Great for games like this. Used to be one for chrome also but chrome ban hammered it like a year ago when they changed extensions to make ad blockers more difficult.
I can do that through the console just fine. I meant as in 'someone could mod in a simple alt path that allows us to get to some content while avoiding others'. And, sure, I could just edit the variables, but it might be easier to just do the normal path and pretend it doesn't happen. The point is having an in-game alternative and having the game acknowledge it.
 
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Rupert needs to be on the list of getting cucked. He's annoying. Should be a quest-mini quest where you find a scientist who Rupert bullied in school or whatever and you use the serum on Rupert's mom to give to the scientist or keep for yourself. But if you give her to the scientist then the post-nut clarity gives him the knowledge to combine the powder and serum to make Rupert a perma-sub woman. He deserves to be the only one who has a perma-transformation.
 

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What's the difference between this and console?
GUI interface. Does the same thing as the console but you can adjust things easier than going through the console. So really mostly laziness. Attached is a screenshot of what it looks like for this game (using twinehacker not sugarmelt). Also it highlights changes in yellow so you can see what variables are being changed. To me, it's just console made a lot easier and more organized. Individual mileage may vary, but I think it's invaluable for twine games to not have to deal with grind.

In context for before, take for example you don't want MC or "Father" to get bonked by the general to unlock GF's house, you can just click the radio box for Gfhouse Know. I get you could type this in the console also but you'd have to know that's the variable which means digging into console or the html, this will do it for you. Just my opinion. Hope it helps others.
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GUI interface. Does the same thing as the console but you can adjust things easier than going through the console. So really mostly laziness. Attached is a screenshot of what it looks like for this game (using twinehacker not sugarmelt). Also it highlights changes in yellow so you can see what variables are being changed. To me, it's just console made a lot easier and more organized. Individual mileage may vary, but I think it's invaluable for twine games to not have to deal with grind.

In context for before, take for example you don't want MC or "Father" to get bonked by the general to unlock GF's house, you can just click the radio box for Gfhouse Know. I get you could type this in the console also but you'd have to know that's the variable which means digging into console or the html, this will do it for you. Just my opinion. Hope it helps others.

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Gotcha, I just use and fiddle around with the console for grindy games, but this is a lot easier to use for sure.
 

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How do you reliably lower the "girl status" that's displayed in the left sidebar?

Also, a small bug(?) report. I started a new game and tried to have fun with one of Mark's women. He beat my character and demanded I bring one of my girls to him. I did and there was a text "Your mother's corruption has greatly increased" but this value remained at 0 after that scene.
 
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voluntas , in order to facilitate cooperation for the game development, first you should setup an appropriate infrastructure to make that happen.
In more technical terms, you will need to share the game (not the images, animated or static) code, which is basically the HTML file with embedded Sugar Cube framework code and probably CSS too.
The best way to share code is to have it stored in a Concurrent Version System. There many options for that, but Git is the most used one, by far.
I did some research and we can work with the game HTML file (which size is about 4MB) without issues (but it would be much easier if the game is built with multiples smaller files, like with the Twee framework works).
It's important to have it for a very simple reason: I saw that you're working in a new release (after I made changes to the previous version), and all the improvements that I made you need to be "moved" to this new code base. That's a hard thing to coordinate manually, Git would definitely help managing that. And there a lot more interesting features, like being able to revert changes easily.
So, for starters, you need to go and take a look to services like Github and Gitlab, which are free services. An important caveat is that you will need to check if you can have the game code over there due any policies the services might have, after all, that's content for an adult game.
And last, but not least, you will need to decide if you want the code to be freely available by creating a public repository or setting up a private one, which would give a better control of who might want to have access to the code.
Given the fact that the code runs in a browser, it is relative easy to get your hands in the code if you have basic knowledge of HTML and Javascript, so from a technical point of view, there is no much sense in having it in a private repository. Choosing an appropriate software license (GPL3, Creative Commons, etc) that is aligned with your objectives for the game is also important.
This is a very important step, so take you time.
If you prefer to keep things simple by now, I can try to create patches (technical term for injecting code changes) for the current game and provide them here, with instructions on how to apply those patches to the HTML file. Just let me know how do you prefer to do it.
 
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i can't seem to get to the girlfriend content, did i do something to lock myself out of it? i was promoted in the military base to the point where the secretary doesn't care about her husband anymore, scenes with rupert repeat themselves (brought mother and sister to him). also visited mark's mother and dosed her. transitioned back and forth multiple times and i'm on turn 4 thousand something.
 

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Is it intended that if you transform the father into a woman once and enable forced transformations, he will always (100% of the time) spike your food to transform you into a girl when he's not one? This means you can't eat breakfasts or consume supplements without keeping the father feminized pretty much permanently.

I'm aware transformations are an experimental feature of this game and was wondering how to make the back and forth between us and the father more dynamic without making it too complicated. One idea I had was that the first 1-3 transformations should happen the way they happen now, but later both the MC and the father should become suspicious about their food to the point simple spiking won't work. From that stage you'll need to convince either mom or sister to help you dose the father in exchange for money, some other favor or just get their help automatically when their love for you is above a certain level. Alternatively there could be some kind of a minigame where you need to guess the father's location or planned activity correctly to gain an opportunity to dose him in a short time window. The father should have his ways too, for example he might be able to force one the girls to help him dose you if certain conditions are met. I would also like to see chances to avoid forced transformations without straight up disabling them. I mean stuff like:
- noticing something odd that lets you know you should take a break from eating breakfasts together with the male version of your father for a few days, or
- 50/50 situations like being offered a glass of juice by the father and swapping the drinks to make him down the one that's probably spiked (or not, if we choose to call his bluff).

Other things on my wishlist:
1) a way to lower the MC's corruption,
2) being able to do anything in house scenes where you run into Mark having sex with the sister (atm I can only move to another room instead of fighting the dude alone or with the fathers help, which is possible when Mark tries to rape the mother),
3) non-rapey ways to have fun with Mark's girls.
 
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