Java Corrupted Saviors [Release 66] [CSDev]

[Kalloi]

Heya everyone! If anyone of you uses my portrait pack I have small surprise for you!
Progress on my pack has been a bit slow due to work and personal business as well as some other factors, but I completed some small things planned for my release, so I thought to bundle up the current progress and give a small preview bundle since it will take some more time to get my release ready. I already sent this to CSDev so I thought I might as well post it here too for anyone intersted.

Included is a Axiom's completed animalistic form, the new chosen character designs using the two different body templates (Fortune and Phantom), Axiom's Temptation variant design.
Not a whole lot but I'm proud how they turned out!
This build doesn't contain anything else besides these portraits, so all you have to do is overwrite the existing one's in your portrait folder. (Deleting them is preferable for the Phantom and Fortune portraits especially)

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I might do one or two of these in the future since there's a lot more for me to do this release still haha.
Here are some previews for those interested as well!

For using Axiom's temptation variant, change your forsaken/chosen's portrait pack in game to "Axiom-T" she has a few more outfits so they are "Axiom-T2", "Axiom-T3", etc.

Spoiler: Axiom

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Spoiler: Fortune & Phantom

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Also Chekhovs_Ghost, really sorry for the late reply, the last time I posted my release on here and in your post containing all of the current portrait packs you mentioned compressing mine for me, can you tell me what program you used for it or your process? Ever since the last release I wanted to do something like that since there's so many alternate portraits in my pack and I can only see that number increasing. Thank you for compressing them previously and Thank you in advance if you want to let me know your process! I'm not really savvy with that kind of stuff so I apologize if this is a dumb question haha

 

[Kaitol]

Hope this helps somehow!

Hah, I was just hoping for a save with a decent spread of vulnerabilities, but you also did a big write up and even have them set up for future use as forsaken, dunno how anyone could help more than that, cheers.

 

[zargal]

I prefer the Negotiation Distortion personally so these abilities are based on this.

Would you mind giving your logic for this, and any thoughts on rampancy and aversion as well? I'm kind of set on cheap temptation forsaken, so I'd appreciate an alternate take.

Also, I thanks heaps for your portraits! They were so worth the download.

 

[Sinistrem]

Personally, I like negotiation cause they are prime waifu material, I bet your aversion/rampancy forsaken have never invited you on a date to an amusement park.

Jokes aside, I find plea/inju a really nice damage combination, plea gives the highest trauma multiplier out of all, inju gives the highest circumstance multiplier out of all. Combined, they synergize well. Pure HATE forsaken probably has a stronger opener but scales worse since HATE is just x2 on all, lack of other multipliers really hurts it. And I'm not sure how one uses EXPO forsaken.

My main regret is breaking t4 plea on my superior nego forsaken, I kinda wish she had less deviancy. I guess you don't want to break t4 plea on your future combat forsaken in general to train them as fast as possible.

I think the main downside of a nego forsaken is that you can't get their hostility up, meaning you can't really use the good hostility training options to boost expertise gains.

It also makes superior/animalistic nego forsaken kinda tough since their motivation penalties make high hostility more desirable, which guts your stamina recovery. I'm actually curious how people combat that on their animalistic negotiation forsaken.

 

[Chekhovs_Ghost]

Personally, I like negotiation cause they are prime waifu material, I bet your aversion/rampancy forsaken have never invited you on a date to an amusement park.

Jokes aside, I find plea/inju a really nice damage combination, plea gives the highest trauma multiplier out of all, inju gives the highest circumstance multiplier out of all. Combined, they synergize well. Pure HATE forsaken probably has a stronger opener but scales worse since HATE is just x2 on all, lack of other multipliers really hurts it. And I'm not sure how one uses EXPO forsaken.

My main regret is breaking t4 plea on my superior nego forsaken, I kinda wish she had less deviancy. I guess you don't want to break t4 plea on your future combat forsaken in general to train them as fast as possible.

I think the main downside of a nego forsaken is that you can't get their hostility up, meaning you can't really use the good hostility training options to boost expertise gains.

It also makes superior/animalistic nego forsaken kinda tough since their motivation penalties make high hostility more desirable, which guts your stamina recovery. I'm actually curious how people combat that on their animalistic negotiation forsaken.

Hate/Exp forsaken is my go to, as I generally want to set up large surrounds for the team. EXPO is more effective for circumstance damage overall compared to INJ, because it affects 8 circumstances (each of the other chosen's), whereas INJ just affects a single chosen's circumstance multiplier. I prefer HATE over PLEASURE because in team composition it provides a more reliable trauma for openers and doing a lot of hate damage doesn't reduce circumstance damage as much as pleasure does.

Pleasure has a tendency to accelerate trauma which reduces circumstance damage.

Though this is always after networked consciousness. Before that I just have specialised cheap forsaken for breaking specific vulnerabilities.

 

[alex2011]

Can Forsaken not do first penetration? I noticed that no matter how long capture lasts and what stats a Chosen has, my Forsaken never actually penetrates until after the thralls have had their fun. I'm trying to set up at least one time where my one close friend Chosen out of the 90+ attempts to get a family Chosen has her virginity stolen in battle by the very person she's trying to save.

 

[Sinistrem]

I guess different people have different playstyles. I don't like expo on my forsaken, because my intent is to use it on all 3 chosen, and after the first two chosen inflicting it on the 3d one is completely wasted damage since only one ally provides the expo bonus. The only time I have the problem of inflicting too much trauma is during the final stretch of my campaign, at which point just a super beefy commander feels just as good as forsaken without the need for managing stamina and motivation.

 

[dekeche]

Can Forsaken not do first penetration? I noticed that no matter how long capture lasts and what stats a Chosen has, my Forsaken never actually penetrates until after the thralls have had their fun. I'm trying to set up at least one time where my one close friend Chosen out of the 90+ attempts to get a family Chosen has her virginity stolen in battle by the very person she's trying to save.

Have you tried with a Inseminate defiler forsaken? I'd assume that's what you'd need to do that. Well, that, and the forsaken in question being a male/futanari probably. If that doesn't work, then I think your only hope would be to skip a T2 moral break, and go directly to T3-T4 with an Impregnation forsaken.

I may come back later with more information.

Edit: After looking at the files, it does look like the "Penetration" Defiler Forsaken trait will allow them to take a Chosen's virginity. And it looks like the same is true for an Impregnation Forsaken, Provided, of course, they actually are still a version at that point.

 

[Chekhovs_Ghost]

only one ally provides the expo bonus

fuck, I didn't know.

 

[TBell67]

Just finished my first successful single play. One chosen KIA and the other two captured as forsaken.

However, when I went into another single play the game gets stuck after the first battle. The summary displays where I receive +1 EE for the new Chosen, then I get two vignettes for the forsaken about how they're regaining stamina (?). Hitting continue just keeps generating more and more of these stamina vignettes for my two new forsaken girls. Over and over. Is this a bug? Should I have set them to training or something?

 

[nafeba3875]

Is this game still one giga class or did the dev make the program sane?

 

[TitanMoose666]

Is this game still one giga class or did the dev make the program sane?

i wouldn't call the program "sane" but there's multiple class files now

 

[alex2011]

Have you tried with a Inseminate defiler forsaken? I'd assume that's what you'd need to do that. Well, that, and the forsaken in question being a male/futanari probably. If that doesn't work, then I think your only hope would be to skip a T2 moral break, and go directly to T3-T4 with an Impregnation forsaken.

I may come back later with more information.

I have, never even got the option to use it even when she had the stats, her barrier was said to be down, and I had the option open while surrounding her with thralls.

That's the odd part, only a few times have I had any of the abilities available with a Forsaken and 99% were the tempt ability after giving the Forsaken a fixation, which seemed to only start giving more lines of dialogue, not make the Chosen targeted give herself to the Forsaken using tempt, which is what happens with tempt when used outside a Forsaken capture. The other 1% was a single attempt that actually got me all of the abilities on one Forsaken except tempt, but this was only with a captured Chosen that had already been penetrated by thralls.

 

[dekeche]

I have, never even got the option to use it even when she had the stats, her barrier was said to be down, and I had the option open while surrounding her with thralls.

That's the odd part, only a few times have I had any of the abilities available with a Forsaken and 99% were the tempt ability after giving the Forsaken a fixation, which seemed to only start giving more lines of dialogue, not make the Chosen targeted give herself to the Forsaken using tempt, which is what happens with tempt when used outside a Forsaken capture. The other 1% was a single attempt that actually got me all of the abilities on one Forsaken except tempt, but this was only with a captured Chosen that had already been penetrated by thralls.

That might be a bug. The Forsaken action should show up if you meet their requirements. Tempt, Traumatize, and Rampage should always be available, due to their effects. Tempt should only be able to apply it's bonus effect, if the chosen's PLEA is high enough. As an example: set this up using cheat mode.


As you can see, HATE is at Lv 3, so I have the "Penetrate" Forsaken action available. Performing this does cause my Forsaken to take the Chosen's vriginity.

And here's the Forsaken's stats.


To unlock the defiler trait of a Forsaken, they must perform one of the following trainings; Assist Raid, Instill Fixation, Drain Soul, or Grand Concert. A Forsaken can only have one defiler at a time. Each training will unlock the associated defiler trait for the target damage type. So Assist Raid unlocks Penetration. For distorted Forsaken, the two distorted stats will instead unlock their unique distortion defiler. If they already have their unique defiler unlocked, then training will instead swap it for the applicable generic trait. So a Tempt Forsaken can unlock Tempt by performing Instill Fixation or Grand Concert, but will be able to acquire Broadcast or Force Orgasm by performing the appropriate training afterwards.

 

[Sinistrem]

I have some weird problem.

For some reason, portrait of one of my forsaken (Triumph) stopped reliably working. I'm not sure what happened, but now it shows black square half the time. All other forsaken seem to work, and when I change portraits of other forsaken to those of Triumph they seem to work fine.
On the other hand, when I change Triumph's portrait it seems to initially work, but as soon as I press "done" to leave customization menu it turns back to black again. I'm not sure what to make of it.

Just going to commander -> Triumph and pressing plan -> cancel -> plan -> cancel again and again shows that only her "focus" expression works fine, whenever the game tries to show some other expression it just shows a black square.
Same when going to private sex scene with her, only focused expression seems to work. I've reinstalled the game and the problem still persists, so there is definitely something wrong with her.

I'm attaching my save, can someone check whether it works on their end? It's the loop 4 save (should be the most recent one).

 

[dekeche]

I have some weird problem.

For some reason, portrait of one of my forsaken (Triumph) stopped reliably working. I'm not sure what happened, but now it shows black square half the time. All other forsaken seem to work, and when I change portraits of other forsaken to those of Triumph they seem to work fine.
On the other hand, when I change Triumph's portrait it seems to initially work, but as soon as I press "done" to leave customization menu it turns back to black again. I'm not sure what to make of it.

Just going to commander -> Triumph and pressing plan -> cancel -> plan -> cancel again and again shows that only her "focus" expression works fine, whenever the game tries to show some other expression it just shows a black square.
Same when going to private sex scene with her, only focused expression seems to work. I've reinstalled the game and the problem still persists, so there is definitely something wrong with her.

I'm attaching my save, can someone check whether it works on their end? It's the loop 4 save (should be the most recent one).

Before testing, I assume you are using one of the portrait packs? Capitalization matters, check Triumph's portrait files, and make sure they are all lowercase. I think I had a similar issue before, and the issue was that some of the .png files were in uppercase. If you're not using a portrait pack, maybe try copying Stigma's portraits into Triumph's folder? They are the same image set.

 

[Sinistrem]

Before testing, I assume you are using one of the portrait packs?

Nope, it's the default install with no packs. And It works perfectly when I set triumph's portraits to other forsaken, only one of my forsaken seems to have these problems.

It worked perfectly for the most of the loop and then it broke a couple in game days ago without me changing anything in the game files.

All I really did was get her obedience to 100, deploy her a couple of times to start stacking trauma bonus from parasitism, and sacrifice one of the other forsaken. I'm not sure whether anything from above might've broken the portrait.

Basically, no matter what portraits I set her to, they don't work. But all other forsaken work fine.

 

[alex2011]

That might be a bug. The Forsaken action should show up if you meet their requirements. Tempt, Traumatize, and Rampage should always be available, due to their effects. Tempt should only be able to apply it's bonus effect, if the chosen's PLEA is high enough. As an example: set this up using cheat mode.
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As you can see, HATE is at Lv 3, so I have the "Penetrate" Forsaken action available. Performing this does cause my Forsaken to take the Chosen's vriginity.

And here's the Forsaken's stats.
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To unlock the defiler trait of a Forsaken, they must perform one of the following trainings; Assist Raid, Instill Fixation, Drain Soul, or Grand Concert. A Forsaken can only have one defiler at a time. Each training will unlock the associated defiler trait for the target damage type. So Assist Raid unlocks Penetration. For distorted Forsaken, the two distorted stats will instead unlock their unique distortion defiler. If they already have their unique defiler unlocked, then training will instead swap it for the applicable generic trait. So a Tempt Forsaken can unlock Tempt by performing Instill Fixation or Grand Concert, but will be able to acquire Broadcast or Force Orgasm by performing the appropriate training afterwards.

The ability to have them all is a bug, then, since I only ever used instill fixation. I never used any other training, which means I never should have had anything other than tempt. Having tempt is working as intended, though, since that is what I got out of using instill fixation the one time I did it. The save I am using has two tempted and one normally defeated Forsaken.

 

[Kaitol]

Mmmm. Run into a bit of a wall in this triple distortion run at day 22, 2x4 or 5 vanilla commander can't get any defiles to break the last couple of T2's, only making 9 EE a day and can't generate enough angst to progress Fury or Shield more than a few percent towards generating 5 EE. Should I just pass days to buy upgrades so I can field a beefy enough commander to possibly brute force them? Don't have a clue how I'm going to hit some of the final requirements yet either.

 

[Sinistrem]

Okay, so I've pinpointed the problem with my forsaken's portrait.

After downloading an external portrait pack it turns out that the game tries to call "smug" and "used" portraits, which don't exist in vanilla, resulting in black squares. After adding those missing portraits the game now works fine, although having a mix between vanilla and modded portraits feels less than ideal.

Why does that happen only with one specific forsaken while the rest work fine? Why did it start happening mid run? I'll never know.
I'm not even sure whether I should report it as a bug or something.
Maybe the game should have a check that allows those extra portrait types to be utilized by modders but use other portraits available in vanilla when no external portrait pack is available (i.e. using lewd instead of used if used is not present, using joy/focus instead of smug if smug is not present). Although it's weird that none of my forsaken use the neutral portraits, you'd expect that to be the most common one but they all seem to either be scared shitless or smug like they own the place.