I think the relationship string in the Forsaken's taunt is backwards, I'm pretty sure she is the big sister, as seen in the flavor paragraph, as well as the 'PLEA up!' notification.
EDIT Same two characters, the banter's a bit wonky.
EDIT Oh, uhh, this is Force Orgasm, if that helps.
I think the relationship string in the Forsaken's taunt is backwards, I'm pretty sure she is the big sister, as seen in the flavor paragraph, as well as the 'PLEA up!' notification.
EDIT Same two characters, the banter's a bit wonky.
That second one looks like part of the code that is supposed to be invisible to us is set as text to be displayed, particularly the \n at the end of Oracle's line.
After looking over the update notes, looking forward to boss fights in a couple updates, hopefully they'll add some satisfying goals and rewards to look forward to, to keep interest up through repetitive loops. Probably my biggest issue so far is burnout after one or two (seriously considered cheating like a bastard just to make loops go by faster past couple of saves).
Wonder if the custom scenes update might come with physical descriptions of chosen and forsaken, or at least outfit descriptions, it would help flesh out the scenes if they were more descriptive. Still, doesn't change the biggest thing I'm anticipating being the confidence/dignity distortion down the line, HATE/PLEA should lend itself to an...interesting theme.
Well.... I don't think that's quite right....
Doing a bit of testing with cheat mode enabled, wanted to try out the new temp undead forsaken. It seems that once they use their ability to capture a flying chosen, they take -100% stamina damage for every turn they are active afterwards. That's even if they switch targets, and go after a non-flying chosen. That negative stamina is kept after the battle as well. In the above example, puppeteer ended up with -1311.0% stamina the next day.
I don't think that's exactly intended. If it is, maybe they should be able to deploy in a non-combat role? Coming with you and passively restoring stamina as you inflict trauma on the chosen.
There's a new version out that does fix the apply aphrodisiac to persecution training bug, cannot confirm other issues being fixed. Link below is the official MEGA link from the blog.
And speaking of Starts - what's people opinion on strongest starting Item? i find those 10K breakers quite good as they save several turns worth of time by quick infusion of points due early t2 break. (at best i got 4 turn 2 capture commander at turn 8 with it)
And speaking of Starts - what's people opinion on strongest starting Item? i find those 10K breakers quite good as they save several turns worth of time by quick infusion of points due early t2 break. (at best i got 4 turn 2 capture commander at turn 8 with it)
In my experience, I find it to be a toss up between the pantsu items, since they seem to be passive bonuses for the entire loop, and the ones that heighten damage and unresolved trauma or start the first Chosen in a battle with 10k to specific damage types since they can really speed up a run.
I ran into a problem when creating a custom chosen team in version 38. I was just messing around with it (still pretty new to this game) and made a team of sisters with Purity, Stigma, and Royal (Royal originally had a custom name, but it made her use the same portrait as her sister so I changed it back). Purity was the youngest sister, Stigma the middle sister, and Royal the eldest. I saved them to file as "3 sisters.ros" and then started a new campaign, but the Chosen I got wasn't one of the three I made. Figuring I messed up a setting somewhere (and realizing that I didn't make sure their stats were balanced so that they could fit into a single Chosen team), I finished the first fight, quit to the main menu, went back to the new campaign menu, and attempted to edit my created Chosen. However, when I attempted to edit one of them, upon selecting which Chosen I wanted to edit the game froze. I could still scroll the text box and close the window with the X in the top right corner like normal, but I couldn't interact with the game otherwise. You can see that the text stops outputting at the Relations section. Interestingly, I can open the exported .ros file with the previous version 37 and it functions normally, i.e. allowing me to edit and properly showing their relationship as sisters. Also, deleting two of the sisters in version 38 allows me to edit that remaining sister normally, so I'm guessing it's something about their relationship that's causing the issue. I've attached a screenshot of the frozen game and the roster file. Hope it helps!
Whatever you do, do not use apply aphrodisiac and then immediately use persecution, there is a soft lock in 38 when doing those training actions in that order.
I think the relationship string in the Forsaken's taunt is backwards, I'm pretty sure she is the big sister, as seen in the flavor paragraph, as well as the 'PLEA up!' notification.
EDIT Same two characters, the banter's a bit wonky.
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Well.... I don't think that's quite right....
Doing a bit of testing with cheat mode enabled, wanted to try out the new temp undead forsaken. It seems that once they use their ability to capture a flying chosen, they take -100% stamina damage for every turn they are active afterwards. That's even if they switch targets, and go after a non-flying chosen. That negative stamina is kept after the battle as well. In the above example, puppeteer ended up with -1311.0% stamina the next day.
I don't think that's exactly intended. If it is, maybe they should be able to deploy in a non-combat role? Coming with you and passively restoring stamina as you inflict trauma on the chosen.
One thing I do wish is that you could see what forsaken punisher effects a chosen has in-game rather than having to play match the vulns with a text file every time you want to check.
Looks like the devsite (blogspot/blogger) now requires an account to access... (I imagine for some, this is a death sentence... for use of that site I mean, since not requiring registration was one thing it had over alternatives)
CSdev Uploading my save for the two bugs (animalistic warbeast - four surrounded actions not going through, and softlock on second chosen Release). Creating demon commander and recreating Forsaken didn't fix the issue. Using custom portraits so portraits won't show. No worries if this is save file corruption due to version - was going to start a new campaign anyway.
Actions to replicate:
Four surrounded actions - Load game 181615, next battle (commander Hymn), battle - shield, capture, do nothing, do nothing, release, surround. Then, if you try to grind/pummel/carress/humiliate Shield, it won't end the round but all pressed actions will happen next round.
Release softlock - Load game 181615, next battle (commander Hymn), battle - shield, capture, do nothing, do nothing, release, surround, capture Sky, release Sky.
CSdev Uploading my save for the two bugs (animalistic warbeast - four surrounded actions not going through, and softlock on second chosen Release). Creating demon commander and recreating Forsaken didn't fix the issue. Using custom portraits so portraits won't show. No worries if this is save file corruption due to version - was going to start a new campaign anyway.
Actions to replicate:
Four surrounded actions - Load game 181615, next battle (commander Hymn), battle - shield, capture, do nothing, do nothing, release, surround. Then, if you try to grind/pummel/carress/humiliate Shield, it won't end the round but all pressed actions will happen next round.
Release softlock - Load game 181615, next battle (commander Hymn), battle - shield, capture, do nothing, do nothing, release, surround, capture Sky, release Sky.
Just curious since this would probably be one of the more interesting things I have seen in a long time as a programmer, what happens when the actions do actually happen, some massive onslaught? Does it have any further effects after they trigger like turns not going by anymore or the entire battle no longer ending even under the conditions for it?
I didn't see a comment from before this across a few pages going all the way into the later part of the comments leading up to 38b being released.
That's perfectly normal. You can skip breaks, though its usually pretty rare. you can skip T1's with careful play or the 10k circ damage items. Skipping T2 usually happens if you hit them with a decent orgy before getting all their T2's.
Just curious since this would probably be one of the more interesting things I have seen in a long time as a programmer, what happens when the actions do actually happen, some massive onslaught? Does it have any further effects after they trigger like turns not going by anymore or the entire battle no longer ending even under the conditions for it?
I didn't see a comment from before this across a few pages going all the way into the later part of the comments leading up to 38b being released.
You know, for example if you surround at Round 4, then pummel at round 5, then Round 5 gets processed with only pummel in effect? With the first bug in my save, if you press pummel at round 5, the button gets pressed but does nothing. Press grind/humiliate/caress and it also does nothing. Then if you Capture another chosen, then the Round 5 will be processed but with the surrounded chosen will be treated as having all four surrounded actions ongoing. So the variable is being set, but I think GoToRoundProcessingStage or some function like that is not being called in some specific instance.
I am so confused with this game. I don't really understand anything. Feels like it's impossible to get anywhere so here are some questions. I tried to find any info on these but the game doesn't tell me and I think that there is no guide online.
1. What does it mean when it says "1% trauma required to do worse stuff" (<- something like that anyways). What is trauma exactly and what does the game mean when it says 1% trauma required??
2. What does the info -> chosen -> approach do? I found that more or less by accident and I figured that you can use that to fuck them in different bodies but everything just catapults hatred up and at 10k they leave... What's the point or what do I need to look out for to make use of this? Does it even affect anything in the game or what is it there for?
3. What does the corruption progress tell me exactly? I have MOR, INN, CON, DIG which I assume are corresponding to hatred, disgust, pleasure etc. But then there is +2, T1, T2, T3, T4 and some have an X in the brackets and some don't even though I just started this playthrough. No idea what it's supposed to mean or how to get X's in there if that's what I'm supposed to do.
4. I read a few of the missions which I assume work like a tutorial?! It says that I need to get the girls injury up to 10k but I can't get even remotely close. Even with a strong commander I end up around 5k before I get kicked out by the others. The fact that it's 3 of them is really annoying. Basically as soon as all of them are there I have no chance of staying there for more than 1-2 rounds which means I can't deliver any more damage to them either
5. What does damage mean anyway? Vulnerabilities tell me that I need to get to 10k damage but what does that mean? Is it overall points in all aspects (PAIN, DISGUST, etc) or is it just injury, or something else entirely? What is damage?
I have a lot more questions but I feel like if these are explained I can try and grasp the rest myself
1. What does it mean when it says "1% trauma required to do worse stuff" (<- something like that anyways). What is trauma exactly and what does the game mean when it says 1% trauma required??
Trauma is what you inflict when you use 4 basic options (threaten, slime, attack, taunt) ignoring precise percentage - with Trauma being accumulated on girls - they start use more extreme methods to vent their stress leading to you getting more Evil Energy from their actions. you have seen their normal after combat actions by now.
2. What does the info -> chosen -> approach do? I found that more or less by accident and I figured that you can use that to fuck them in different bodies but everything just catapults hatred up and at 10k they leave... What's the point or what do I need to look out for to make use of this? Does it even affect anything in the game or what is it there for?
To have any success there you need to thoroughly corrupt the chosen that you want to have some fun with (failure there have no effect on the main game so feel free to experiment). Also this interaction is used in Distortion corruptions (specific corruption paths that restrict the way you have to break the chosen in, but you do not need to worry about those for now).
3. What does the corruption progress tell me exactly? I have MOR, INN, CON, DIG which I assume are corresponding to hatred, disgust, pleasure etc. But then there is +2, T1, T2, T3, T4 and some have an X in the brackets and some don't even though I just started this playthrough. No idea what it's supposed to mean or how to get X's in there if that's what I'm supposed to do.
MOR INN CON DIG are 4 personality traits of each girl . Morality, Innocence, Confidence, Dignity. they are also marked with Core Significant(sig) or Minor(min) status. you always get 2 girls with a single core trait and one with 2 core traits and there is always a Core for each personality trait. (so basically if 2 first chosen you got have let's say MOR core on 1st and INN Core on 2nd - you can clearly say that last one will have dual CON DIG core).
So - to corrupt a chosen you need to break their Vulnerabilities (+2 T1 T2 T3 T4) in each personality trait. +2 only exist in a core trait, and you can say symbolizes first crack in their core personality. breaking it gives you +2 EE. For the rest - order of breaking the vulnerabilities will determine the relationships of the chosen.
It works in a following way. Let's say Chosen 1 have MOR (core). And Chosen 2 have MOR (min). If you break Chosen's 1 MOR Core b4 you break Chosen's2 MOR Minor - relationships between Chosen 1 and 2 will deteriorate. Conversely if you break Chosen 2 MOR minor prior to breaking Chosen 1 MOR core - They will become closer friends. Relationship determine how fast backup arrives in battle and affect how final battle plays out. Additionally Making their relationships worse pays better (in EE) than making them friends.
[X] symbolizes broken vulnerability and some chosen start with some of their Minor Vulnerabilities pre-broken so to make it harder on the player, since it means that this Chosen by default will initially get friendly with someone who have the same Core as pre-broken Minor.
Lastly Significant(sig) Vulnerability is neutral and does not affect gameplay much aside from bonuses for breaking it - so there is no need to specifically pay attention to it and you can break it as you have a chance.
4. I read a few of the missions which I assume work like a tutorial?! It says that I need to get the girls injury up to 10k but I can't get even remotely close. Even with a strong commander I end up around 5k before I get kicked out by the others. The fact that it's 3 of them is really annoying. Basically as soon as all of them are there I have no chance of staying there for more than 1-2 rounds which means I can't deliver any more damage to them either
You need to learn to use basic commander. You do not need any upgrades that do some kind of specific damage, those will be needed late game. Early game you usually want to rush 4 turn 2 capture basic commander and learn to play it while efficently juggling surrounds and damage inflicted. it should be enough to force those T2 Breaks. I am not going to explain each Surround action and correlation, smarter people can do it (Or you can go read Guide txt in game folder)
For biggest hint that was game-breaker for me personally. Learn to understand extermination/evacuation gauge.
1) Mission will not end when someone is still surrounded,
2) If got surrounded prior to timer reaching 100% - you will have another chance to capture them after they get out of surround.
Basically you need to learn setuping short surrounds that let you extend the mission even after extermination finished so that you can repeatedly surround one heavily damaged Chosen.
5. What does damage mean anyway? Vulnerabilities tell me that I need to get to 10k damage but what does that mean? Is it overall points in all aspects (PAIN, DISGUST, etc) or is it just injury, or something else entirely? What is damage?
There is damage (it's what you dealing with basic actions Fear Disgust Pain Shame) and there is Circumstance damage (is what you do when girls are surrounded)
When game asks you for 10K - it wants 10k of circumstance damage. you cant miss it as you will get an opportunity to preform "Yellow" actions that will act as breaker for t2 Vulnerability.
Ok That's enough for now. Other people can explain certain points better i am sure, so i'll just stop here.
I highly recommend reading and following along with the guide.txt in the game folder, the other txt files there will be useful after your first run through. You could look at kalloi's portrait pack, not only are the pics great, there is a handy walkthrough for days 1-12 which steps you through the basics. I also posted a guide/worksheet a while back which may help with terminology. Good luck!
PS Ragsmu beat me to the punch, but I'll still post in case a rewording helps.
Not sure if this is intentional, but got a chosen that skipped a T2 break into T3. The save that shows this should be the most recent one.
