Java Corrupted Saviors [Release 58] [CSDev]

[zargal]

Haksaw has good advice there- for a beginner you should focus on using your EE to research then build a 5EE commander, which can be doable by day 12-15. For your first few days, you have two priorities during battles:
1-Get each revealed heroine to 200 trauma, which will get you 1 EE per day.
2-Reveal the 3 heroines ASAP. This requires you to prolong battles as much as possible, by using tactics (attack/slime etc) to build up surrounds then only using those surrounds the round before the battle would otherwise finish.
That's optimal play, it won't make a huge difference if you can't, for example, do enough damage to the third heroine when she first shows up. But following this generally will get you to earning 3EE/d as quickly as possible. Then it's a question of patience, where you save EE and just add trauma to each heroine. It's normal to feel you're wasting time waiting and in later tries you can streamline the process with your better skills.

 

[haksaw]

But no, I have never gotten more than 3 EE from a fight

You don't get EE from fights, you get EE from actions girls do in their downtime and those actions depend on their corruption lvls. So to get more EE from a girl you need to break her vulnerability in a single fight and she will be providing increased EE every day from that point on (if she has enough angst for that). You don't need to do smth good every single fight.

 

[eidalac]

which can be doable by day 12-15

Takes me 25-30 days. By that time It's pretty much a lost cause.

2-Reveal the 3 heroines ASAP. This requires you to prolong battles as much as possible, by using tactics

Ok, this is one I did not know, I assumed they only showed up after a certain number of days passed.

build up surrounds then only using those surrounds the round before the battle would otherwise finish.

THANK YOU. That's what I've been missing in the early game.

I haven't been getting to 3 EE till day 9-10 (or latter), so I'm perpetually behind on research/commanders.

(if she has enough angst for that)

And I haven't been doing enough damage so they reduce angst faster than I can build it, hence me never getting past 3EE and I have to use 1EE commanders just to keep that level up.

But from what Zargal pointed out I'm just hitting 3EE too late in and can't catch up. I just need to adjust how I do the first few days so I get to the 3EE point early enough to get ahead on research/damage.

 

[haksaw]

But from what Zargal pointed out I'm just hitting 3EE too late in and can't catch up.

That's first time I hear you can get 3rd one early, she always comes at day 7 for me. Even if you can get her a day or two earlier it changes nothing in the big picture.

 

[MoarDakka123]

Only skimmed through the page so sorry if I missed anyone mentioning it, but new update's up on Subscribestar.

 

[dekeche]

You don't get EE from fights, you get EE from actions girls do in their downtime and those actions depend on their corruption lvls. So to get more EE from a girl you need to break her vulnerability in a single fight and she will be providing increased EE every day from that point on (if she has enough angst for that). You don't need to do smth good every single fight.

Not exactly strictly true; some vulnerability breaks during battle will give a one time boost of EE. breaking the "zero" core vulnerability gives +2 EE, Breaking a T1 core or minor vulnerability yields 2-3 EE, and Breaking T4 yields 2-3 EE, if T1 hasn't been broken yet (at least, from what I can tell from the R35 decompiled files I have).

Though, realistically, your best bet is to get trauma as high as possible. Which is why "orgasm in a can" is OP. Massive boost to trama, meaning high surround turns, + free T2 break and likely some T1 breaks? an extra +1 EE per turn from the start of the loop and the other chosen arriving sooner? Massive boost to your early game. Basically can break a T2 on each chosen before day 12.

 

[bakerarts]

Can someone tell me why Casual Projection isn't working for me, it is supposed to do the following:
" Grants you the ability to identify which civilians would, if removed from society, induce the greatest despair and sinful behavior in those close to them. By withdrawing your forces while the Chosen are occupied and bringing those people with you, you can harvest a bit of energy from the general population. This adds a Retreat option during battle which ends the fight prematurely, but grants +1 Evil Energy for every five full surround or capture turns added up among the Chosen. "

But for some reason it isn't giving me the Evil Energy despite the fact I capture a hero for 4 rounds then surround 2 others for 1 round each.

 

[frankensteiner316]

how tf am i supposed to get 100m unresolved pain if im earning like 500 per battle?

 

[eidalac]

But for some reason it isn't giving me the Evil Energy despite the fact I capture a hero for 4 rounds then surround 2 others for 1 round each.

Been a bit since I used it, but IIRC, it's based on the REMAINING surround duration, not the total in the fight.

So if you have a chosen surrounded for 5 turns, the Retreat button should show as "Retreat (1)" to show how much EE you would get. If it remains as just "Retreat" you aren't getting any EE.

If I'm remembering that correctly I think the description needs to be reworded as it's a bit unclear.

 

[frankensteiner316]

how tf am i supposed to get 100m unresolved pain if im earning like 500 per battle?

lmao the game ended before i got to 50k

 

[haksaw]

some vulnerability breaks during battle will give a one time boost of EE

Well, yes, but that's just a bonus on the side and a one off. Your main income is passive, not earned in the battle itself so you can afford some slow days.

how tf am i supposed to get 100m unresolved pain if im earning like 500 per battle?

A single good orgy gives like 10 trillions Or whatever T means, I didn't count those insane nubers.

But for some reason it isn't giving me the Evil Energy despite the fact I capture a hero for 4 rounds then surround 2 others for 1 round each.

Yes, you need to retreat while girls are still surrounded for that to give EE. It won't be a retreat otherwise, isn't it? Not that useful of ability. At the stage when EE matter, every single surround turn count so you don't want to waste them. And when you can give up like 30 turns worth of surrond you're making like 100-150 EE per turn and don't care about 6 extra EE.

 

[Chekhovs_Ghost]

how tf am i supposed to get 100m unresolved pain if im earning like 500 per battle?

Getting a defiler that does injury damage goes over 500 easily from a single capture and helps set up situations where you can get to 100m.



Also:

 

[frankensteiner316]

Well, yes, but that's just a bonus on the side and a one off. Your main income is passive, not earned in the battle itself so you can afford some slow days.

A single good orgy gives like 10 trillions Or whatever T means, I didn't count those insane nubers.

Yes, you need to retreat while girls are still surrounded for that to give EE. It won't be a retreat otherwise, isn't it? Not that useful of ability. At the stage when EE matter, every single surround turn count so you don't want to waste them. And when you can give up like 30 turns worth of surrond you're making like 100-150 EE per turn and don't care about 6 extra EE.

how do you start an orgy? the aversion thingy wants a 10 turn long orgy

 

[bakerarts]

Been a bit since I used it, but IIRC, it's based on the REMAINING surround duration, not the total in the fight.

So if you have a chosen surrounded for 5 turns, the Retreat button should show as "Retreat (1)" to show how much EE you would get. If it remains as just "Retreat" you aren't getting any EE.

If I'm remembering that correctly I think the description needs to be reworded as it's a bit unclear.

Yes, you need to retreat while girls are still surrounded for that to give EE. It won't be a retreat otherwise, isn't it? Not that useful of ability. At the stage when EE matter, every single surround turn count so you don't want to waste them. And when you can give up like 30 turns worth of surrond you're making like 100-150 EE per turn and don't care about 6 extra EE.

Ok thanks guys I'll give it a shot.

 

[Chekhovs_Ghost]

how do you start an orgy? the aversion thingy wants a 10 turn long orgy

When you get to 10k circumstance damage, you can start an insemination, forced orgasm, sodomize or broadcast (depending on which circumstance is at 10k). When you've got a second surround that also has 10k circumstance at the same area, you can start a insemination+, forced orgasm+, sodomize+ or a broadcast+. When you've got a third surround with the same circumstance damage, you can start an orgy.

 

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[dekeche]

This is something that I've been wondering; is it actually reasonable to use the defiler commander to actually break a T2 vulnerability? It seems like they don't actually deal enough damage to get to that point normally, unless you're sending out a complete commander. But at that point, you should already have already broken all T2 vulnerabilities you want/need to.

It seems like, with a basic 4/2 or 5/3 commander, you'd have to not ambush the target, get their damage levels high enough to surround, and surround them normally while using the commander on the others. But even then, a basic 4/2 commander can get T2 breaks pretty reliably. Am I missing something? or is there an edge case where it's actually useful or usable? - right now, it just seems like a downside to using a complete commander if you are going for varied distortions.

 

[alex2011]

I need to pay attention when I report a bug and then an update happens after, I didn't even notice until just now that there was an update, which hopefully fixes what I had issues with assuming it was not the save being corrupted that caused no options to pass time if I negotiate with all available Chosen in the back alley before a battle.

EDIT: It did not

 

[HyperK2]

This is something that I've been wondering; is it actually reasonable to use the defiler commander to actually break a T2 vulnerability? It seems like they don't actually deal enough damage to get to that point normally, unless you're sending out a complete commander. But at that point, you should already have already broken all T2 vulnerabilities you want/need to.

It seems like, with a basic 4/2 or 5/3 commander, you'd have to not ambush the target, get their damage levels high enough to surround, and surround them normally while using the commander on the others. But even then, a basic 4/2 commander can get T2 breaks pretty reliably. Am I missing something? or is there an edge case where it's actually useful or usable? - right now, it just seems like a downside to using a complete commander if you are going for varied distortions.

I'm no expert, but I tend to agree. The way the game is designed, it seems to be better to spread out your damage (at least early on) and the defiler commander stacking up only 1 damage type starts hitting hard diminishing returns making it hard to actually get to high enough damage.

 

[frankensteiner316]

When you get to 10k circumstance damage, you can start an insemination, forced orgasm, sodomize or broadcast (depending on which circumstance is at 10k). When you've got a second surround that also has 10k circumstance at the same area, you can start a insemination+, forced orgasm+, sodomize+ or a broadcast+. When you've got a third surround with the same circumstance damage, you can start an orgy.

Is there any good way to get all of them onto a 10 round orgy?