So, for example, you could take the existing portraits of Fury, which currently only have normal and animalistic Chosen images, and add the features needed for other forms like undead or superior?
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Quite probably, though it might take some finagling. Changing expressions would be easier, just point it at the face and tell it what you want instead.
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The main thing for me, and why I gave it a try, was that while there are many "different" chosen, the same portraits get used multiple times over. I wanted to try to make the chosen more distinct instead of several of them essentially being the same by virtue of using the same portrait set. It takes a little while, but I think it's definitely doable. Plus, I'm not all that picky, so I thought this level was good enough.
Just for example;
Just for example;
Hi everyone, I've updated my Football Manager inspired worksheet. It now includes:
-Space to keep track of Chosen and Forsaken stats. New is the capacity to predict each Chosen's punisher bonuses for all your forward planning needs!
-A bunch of quick reference stuff. The idea being that, having read through the official guides, you can quickly glance at one of the tables for a reminder rather than having to open a text file and find that info again. If there's a discrepancy between sources however, definitely go with the official one.
-The same messy research tree. Personally, this is the thing I find most useful, since it keeps me on track for rushing Network/ whatever.
-Vignette tracker and a personality quiz guide (not 100% accurate- feedback welcome).
-More unsolicited tips of dubious quality from me!
-A late game (slightly edited for illustration purposes) example of how I use it.
As with last time, you can feel free to edit/add/delete stuff as you need. I used to set up autofill for opposing vulnerabilities but I find I don't need to anymore for instance. Google will tell you how to autofill and easily drag stuff around in excel.
Finally, a recommendation from CSDev themself:
Hope this helps people get into this superb game!
-Space to keep track of Chosen and Forsaken stats. New is the capacity to predict each Chosen's punisher bonuses for all your forward planning needs!
-A bunch of quick reference stuff. The idea being that, having read through the official guides, you can quickly glance at one of the tables for a reminder rather than having to open a text file and find that info again. If there's a discrepancy between sources however, definitely go with the official one.
-The same messy research tree. Personally, this is the thing I find most useful, since it keeps me on track for rushing Network/ whatever.
-Vignette tracker and a personality quiz guide (not 100% accurate- feedback welcome).
-More unsolicited tips of dubious quality from me!
-A late game (slightly edited for illustration purposes) example of how I use it.
As with last time, you can feel free to edit/add/delete stuff as you need. I used to set up autofill for opposing vulnerabilities but I find I don't need to anymore for instance. Google will tell you how to autofill and easily drag stuff around in excel.
Finally, a recommendation from CSDev themself:
What more can be said?
Hope this helps people get into this superb game!
Thanks for the reply. Help for sure but I'm hitting an immense wall rn and I have no clue how to get through it. Whenever there is a T2 circ break I need 10K dmg in that circumstance to break it with the corresponding attack (e.g. force orgasm, inseminate etc) However, it really feels like it's almost impossible to get there, if the element is something the Chosen is strong against. So for example, right now I have the quest of sodomizing a chosen at the element they're strongest against (which is INJ). How am I supposed to get there? Is there a trick I'm overlooking?
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Thing you overlooking is the ability to juggle surrounds most likely. Alternatively extremely resistant chosen. Try posting the save if you don't mind and either me(depending on when) or someone else will be able to look at whats going on and give you some proper advice.
Edit: If you want some general advice - Setup EXPO on other chosen to get multipliers for one you are trying to break. Buy Time extension upgrades, so you can force one extra surround. as mentioned - learn to use 4/5 turn 2 Capture commanders. But save would still be preferable
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Here's the save. The newest one should be day 31. I gave up on the campaign for now and just play single player because supposedly it continuous even after you fail the final fight.
I always go for pummel -> Caress -> Grind combos and then maybe Humiliate on the chosen I'm focusing. Maybe the order I'm doing it in is wrong? But this combo is what got the most out of any chosen by FAR. And I'm trying to get Humiliation on every chosen if possible but never above lvl 1. Should I try to get the other chosens on level 2? Seems like it would be way harder since even getting the Chosen I'm focusing on 1k on a specific circumstance isn't easy.
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Pummel Cares Grind Combos are ususally good enough, though it can depend on the girl.
Ok i am looking through the save right now. 31 is really late to be just starting breaking t2 cores (and then again you are trying to break t2 significant there - not even core.
Though with as strong commander as you have - it's really easy to break t2 significant. (6 turns with 2 captures is enough)
Start Pariah with P=>C=>G=>H=> nothing. Capture Steadfast as she appears. next turn Surround Pariah. Humiliate her once. that will give you t2 Expo. You have 4 turn left on Steadfast for P=>C=>G=>H. Surround Steadfast again P=>C=>G=>H you have 3 turns of surround left at this point. Slime at Hope. use 1 turn to threaten Pariah. Surround Hope. Surround Steadfast. At this point you should have 14 turn surround. you can go H=>P=>C=>G. after that it's just a question of couple of turns so you can start working On Pariah by increasing her fear Pain and Shame to 10k each. then surround her and that should be enough to break t2 on her in a couple of turns.
That is to what you already have, even less actually as i removed 1 capture.
Technically should be doable with 5/2 but it'll take a bit more time and i am to sleepy right now to experiment.
But Yes, overall advice - learn to juggle surrounds, and setup expos.
will try some more stuff with this save at a later date
WOW thank you, it definitely works but i still don't 100% understand why it worked. Can you explain your train of thought maybe? Like, why Threaten Pariah in the middle even though I kinda focus Steadfast instead, why surround Hope without Humiliating her (why bother? Doesn't give boni does it?), etc. I feel like I don't understand a lot of boni that I could get. How do you figure that out?
Using the basic attacks to boost a damage up to the next tier for longer surrounds can be useful even late in an encounter, especially if you have the free time and it's the last surround you can do on her, if you can do it in few enough actions.
Never focus on only one girl once you have a two or three capture commander, partly because they'll do stuff to disrupt you, like Distract (some Chosen are better at it than others, I think I've seen up to 42% circ damage reduction? Super annoying), and the more you hit them the easier it is to work on the girl you're aiming at. Subjugation doesn't go up if all three Chosen are captured (though they will start storing power for big hits once freed after evac is complete to stop you stalling forever) so it's always worthwhile to juggle as many of them as you can manage, sometimes just capturing one to stop her doing anything can be the right play, especially since only two girls expo matters.
Never focus on only one girl once you have a two or three capture commander, partly because they'll do stuff to disrupt you, like Distract (some Chosen are better at it than others, I think I've seen up to 42% circ damage reduction? Super annoying), and the more you hit them the easier it is to work on the girl you're aiming at. Subjugation doesn't go up if all three Chosen are captured (though they will start storing power for big hits once freed after evac is complete to stop you stalling forever) so it's always worthwhile to juggle as many of them as you can manage, sometimes just capturing one to stop her doing anything can be the right play, especially since only two girls expo matters.
I believe the hope surround was purely to make sure steadfast's fear was counted for the surround lengths (it only counts if other chosen are surrounded). It's a tactic you'll get used to, even when you have the extra round researched, you should never not have at least one chosen surrounded until they're all flying. It changes a little with forsaken but the principle remains.
Good on you for sticking with it, I know those T2's can be frustrating! At some stage, everything does start to just click.
Good on you for sticking with it, I know those T2's can be frustrating! At some stage, everything does start to just click.
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Pariah Turn is throwaway turn. There is nothing to do and you might as well skip it - so i use it to build some trauma on Pariah in advance.
Hope slime and 1 turn Surround - this is actually core thing to understand, You see as long as chosen was captured prior to extermination timing reaching 100% - they wont fly away after their surround end and can be captured for 1 more time. But if no one is captured on the field and extermination is 100% the battle will end. so i synchronized 1 turn surround with the moment when Steadfast's surround ends (hence the throwaway turn on Pariah, i needed 1 to slime Hope, and 1 to surround her. but there was 3 turns available) that 1 turns surround prolongs the battle and gives me an opportunity to surround steadfast for the last time.
There is upgrade that prolongs battle by 1 turn and spares you the trouble, but as others mentioned even then that short surround on Hope will make last surround on Steadfast Longer due to how threaten damage works. (only provides surround when someone else is surrounded)
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Stuck in a softlock loop with a vignette: (R38C)
Pressing continue just repeats as above.
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Adding to this, whenever possible and no actions directly aiming at the Chosen are available, raise the barrier. The extra percentage in damage does help to mitigate the nullification from Chosen actions to a degree, especially if you can get it above the highest percentage of blocked damage.
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True, though I wasn't speaking to any specific case, it was more generally speaking than anything.
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Well, i know that there is Barrier upgrade so its fine, but on the other hand if someone new had read your comment - they would have no idea what are you talking about
When in battle under the circumstances I specified, there is only one option.
No options with the Chosen means they are either surrounded or captured, so you cannot interact with them.
This means whenever the option appears while the other thing I quoted is happening. It would be the only button and the text is there that specifically says barrier, so it shouldn't be confusing.
I'm kinda getting the drill now. Started a new game, now at day 31 but this time I got everyone up to G and even T levels in trauma. Got them into an endless cycle of surrounds at some point which is REALLY OP. Didn't even think of that because I didn't realise that evacuation and the other thing isn't going up when everyone is surrounded.
Not sure if anyone has pointed it out, but Justice and Cheer have the same portraits in the Patience image pack (the AI gen one). Iirc previous versions had a different look for Justice.