Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.32] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Skandranon]

wikis are updated by people.
I have not had any desire to work on their wiki for many years now.
I believe this lack of update suggests high player turnover (people quitting shortly after finding the game), as well as low player investment

Doubt it really suggests anything, I've seen lots of popular games with worse wikis.

Plus, it's locked with mod approval. As far as I know there's only 3 or 4 people active with permission to edit.

 

[Dezdanna]

I fully support the option to dedick every character in game, I also support the option to slap a dick on every character in game, as options so people can have the game they want without taking away anything from other people having the game they want. As for the people trying to tell me to go to hell for refusing dick, you have a very long line of religious bigots of both flavors to get behind to do so, Enjoy.

You really ought to stop assuming anyone complaining about the CONSTANT bitching about male characters *existing* people do on here is secretly a religious bigot that wants you to suck dick because you're a lesbian, that's not what this is about, this is about people constantly acting like their fetish is better and they don't have enough content while there's some people over here ACTUALLY without content.

 

[gregers]

RIP , I like these open world type games, BUT WHY CANT I REMOVE GAY!!!

so sad

Yeah why can't you just exterminate the gay people whose existence offends you? So sad.


Get tae fuck.

 

[Azriel Satan]

Adjatha made a lot of busts that make me wish I could wife/husband up the character/enemy. Bored Jumpers, or that goth fuckdoll from KiroQuest for example.

5 years and counting for William to write the Bored Jumper Companion Expansion

If you want to be more disappointed about it not being added you can check out all the art that Willliam has commissioned of Leila

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[smithsmithsmith]

5 years and counting for William to write the Bored Jumper Companion Expansion

If you want to be more disappointed about it not being added you can check out all the art that Willliam has commissioned of Leila

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Ignorance is bliss, here's hoping it still gets done at some point.

 

[NaturalEnclave]

You know, reading this thread from time to time really makes me wonder how many issues the games has are problems of perspective and the intent of the player when they start it.
For some, lack of real romantic options and routes feels like a massive issue. At the same time, this is a game with tons of characters, many of which can be fucked, creating weird disconnect, because I imagine the intent is for you to just have fun fucking whoever you find attractive, not focusing on making a family with a girl from a random encounter who's design and idea meets every fetish of the player.
Then there are just those who are upset over a lack of freedom. Sometimes, it legit shit, like a quest not letting you to deny a character or disagree with something controversial. Sometimes, it's weird stuff like "why can't I make this character female/remove his cock/add cock to them" which, no offense, sometimes sounds like "Now draw write them buying wonder bread".
That's not to say the game is flawless, it has a lot of shit I don't like and stupid decisions I do not understand, but I do sometimes wonder how many complains are legitimate issues with the game that developers intent on making and how many of those are people bitching that CoC2 doesn't go into a very specific direction they want based on their dream version of a game like CoC. Keyword, is "like" because if all of their ideas and suggestions would be implemented, it would go incredibly far from what CoC is actually trying to be.

 

[Tau_Iota]

5 years and counting for William to write the Bored Jumper Companion Expansion

If you want to be more disappointed about it not being added you can check out all the art that Willliam has commissioned of Leila

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I completely forgot about Leila tbh, and my heart hurts again lmao I love William, but William PLS.

Worse is that we have that psychopathic EdgeLord jumper following us EVERYWHERE instead. I mean, no knock on her she's pretty cool but it can get annoying. Plus, her only art feels extremely out of place.

 

[Quintilus]

Sometimes, it's weird stuff like "why can't I make this character female/remove his cock/add cock to them"

Most of the questions in this field sprouts from one specific character that identifies himself as female, have dick and whines 'my dickcockpenissholng...I never asked for it' without doing anything to get rid of it. And its possible to get rid of it using in game methods, if you dont know.
Very roughly speaking it looks like
Morning.
Character in question sits behind the table with a cup of tea, looking in the window on the raising sun.
*big gulp of earl grey*
"I have a penis, you know?"
*small tea sip*
"And I fucking hate it!!!!!11111oneoneone"
*continues to drink tea like nothing happened*

Reason of why its impossible to remove it, main dev have an itch for a girls with dick. Why he pictured her as suffering (kinda) from having a pp I dont know.

 

[muschi26]

You know, reading this thread from time to time really makes me wonder how many issues the games has are problems of perspective and the intent of the player when they start it.
For some, lack of real romantic options and routes feels like a massive issue. At the same time, this is a game with tons of characters, many of which can be fucked, creating weird disconnect, because I imagine the intent is for you to just have fun fucking whoever you find attractive, not focusing on making a family with a girl from a random encounter who's design and idea meets every fetish of the player.
Then there are just those who are upset over a lack of freedom. Sometimes, it legit shit, like a quest not letting you to deny a character or disagree with something controversial. Sometimes, it's weird stuff like "why can't I make this character female/remove his cock/add cock to them" which, no offense, sometimes sounds like "Now draw write them buying wonder bread".
That's not to say the game is flawless, it has a lot of shit I don't like and stupid decisions I do not understand, but I do sometimes wonder how many complains are legitimate issues with the game that developers intent on making and how many of those are people bitching that CoC2 doesn't go into a very specific direction they want based on their dream version of a game like CoC. Keyword, is "like" because if all of their ideas and suggestions would be implemented, it would go incredibly far from what CoC is actually trying to be.

At the same time, the game is trying to be everything, to the point where it’s pulling itself apart. It’s an open world, but interactions are incredibly linear; it’s a fuck-a-thon, but wants you to get attached to specific characters; it’s an adventure game, but it gates a lot of content behind its half-baked combat system.

When a game essentially promises everything, it’s not surprising that some people get upset when it turns out “everything” doesn’t include “that thing they really wanted”.

 

[Fiz1247]

Most of the questions in this field sprouts from one specific character that identifies himself as female, have dick and whines 'my dickcockpenissholng...I never asked for it' without doing anything to get rid of it. And its possible to get rid of it using in game methods, if you dont know.
Very roughly speaking it looks like
Morning.
Character in question sits behind the table with a cup of tea, looking in the window on the raising sun.
*big gulp of earl grey*
"I have a penis, you know?"
*small tea sip*
"And I fucking hate it!!!!!11111oneoneone"
*continues to drink tea like nothing happened*

Reason of why its impossible to remove it, main dev have an itch for a girls with dick. Why he pictured her as suffering (kinda) from having a pp I dont know.

Why do we hate Quintillus as a companion again?

 

[muschi26]

Why do we hate Quintillus as a companion again?

Personally, I don’t like him because he’s: a) a guy; b) an attention-whore; c) supercilious as shit; d) touching or trying to touch women I’m not interested in him touching.

 

[Tau_Iota]

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At the same time, the game is trying to be everything, to the point where it’s pulling itself apart. It’s an open world, but interactions are incredibly linear; it’s a fuck-a-thon, but wants you to get attached to specific characters; it’s an adventure game, but it gates a lot of content behind its half-baked combat system.

When a game essentially promises everything, it’s not surprising that some people get upset when it turns out “everything” doesn’t include “that thing they really wanted”.

This about says it right here, but also like... People went into this game expecting something inspired by the first game. Some kind of element to look at and trace back to its CoC1 origins. Unfortunately, most if not all of what's left from CoC1 is vestigial at best. Corruption mechanic? Yeah, we have it but does it really change anything? Transformations? Got that too, but only for you -and- it doesn't really change anything. Perks that can affect your entire playstyle (a la Ceraph's piercings)? Kiiiinda, but it doesn't really?

And before you say, "Oh well they have a different vision for the game," stop. This isn't a new title coming from the Fenoxo bubble, this is a sequel. If you bought the new CoD expecting to get another FPS title, but instead you got an RTS game... wouldn't that bother you? Or to keep it in the adult game genre, what about if Remtairy released Karryn's Prison 2 but instead of it focusing on the corruption of the MC instead it was you getting NTR'd? (Nothing against NTR, I believe there's a time and a place for it.) Wouldn't it kinda irk you that suddenly, without warning, Karryn is no longer in the picture and you're playing as some chud?

 

[Konstantinus]

Why do we hate Quintillus as a companion again?

Cause he corrupts your party if you are so stupid of trying to mediate and this gets subtones of cucking which feels bad again cause you are punished for being nice. If I will loose my save again I will this time tell him to fuck off instead of recruiting him.

 

[Alterism]

I'm going to attempt to succinctly describe my feelings on a few topics as well as draw a few comparisons to prove a point and support some opinions with facts.

For some, lack of real romantic options and routes feels like a massive issue. At the same time, this is a game with tons of characters, many of which can be fucked, creating weird disconnect, because I imagine the intent is for you to just have fun fucking whoever you find attractive, not focusing on making a family with a girl from a random encounter who's design and idea meets every fetish of the player.

This isn't some "perspective" thing. This game pinned itself as a sequel/spiritual successor of two games and jacks up that particular aspect.

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Early CoC2 when it was still pretending to be a sequel to CoC1 is significantly different than current CoC2

• An emerging amount of TFs with initially nothing being off the table
• Different conclusions for the hive with promise of content to go
• Both pure/corrupted centaur village placeholders with promise of content to come
• Multiple ways to resolve quests (such as Orcs, the aforementioned hive and centaur village, the fate of the Alraune)

The second you pop past wintercity your choices stop mattering (the few times you get any at all) and your MC stops being an avatar and more some lens writers use to speak with their voice instead of yours you use your perspective to observe other NPC interactions.

This isn't something inane like people playing Subverse being surprised about the mass volume of monster fucking, nymphos, threesomes, gangbangs, thirdwheeling. Because how could ANYBODY be surprised when it was one of the pitches and the game is made by StudioFOW.

This is "CoC2 with a bunch of the same writers has nearly nothing in common with CoC1".
Which is a pretty valid piece of criticism.

 

[Skandranon]

You know, reading this thread from time to time really makes me wonder how many issues the games has are problems of perspective and the intent of the player when they start it.

I'd say at least half of the complaints here (probably more) are more preference issues than real issues with the game.

But to be fair, that's most games on the site, it's kind of a recurring issue.

 

[NaturalEnclave]

An incredibly funny version of dialogue with an average CoC2 Futa

NGL, I didn't really know it's something they acknowledge that much. I wonder why they bring so much attention to it if it's not something they want to expand upon. At this point, make an entire freaking faction called Dedickers who are designed to help to Kassyra's victims who grew a cock after her fly-by-through.

 

[NaturalEnclave]

If you bought the new CoD expecting to get another FPS title, but instead you got an RTS game... wouldn't that bother you?

TBH, I don't think it would, as there are some franchises that did that, like Yakuza for example. But there people really complain because at the end of the day - the core of the game is still Yakuza. CoC2 could have been made on GZDoom and be an FPS that goes into text adventure at some moments, I don't think it would be a problem if it was a TRUE successor to the original.

Super long informative post about CoC2 problems compared to OG

First of all, thank you immensely for providing a detailed response with specific examples of issues and the difference in approach between 2 games. As a person who is interested in making a porn game myself, it really helps to see something like this.

It also helps me understand something vital - CoC2 is flying on borrowed wings. I haven't played CoC1. I started with 2 and despite my friend saying that OG holds up really well, I was too lazy to try it. No shit I am way softer on it - I have no idea about the downgrades and weird decisions done by Team of CoC2. In fact, I gave it the benefit of the doubt because I found the combat to be so unenjoyable that I didn't even reach Winter City and given up when after several attempts I couldn't defeat the gatekeeper. I felt like I was missing some good content, but it wouldn't shock me if I also missed a lot of BAD content as the result.

The version of CoC2 I have in my head with positive thoughts about it because it gave me a few great wanks is really not the same version people are playing right now. And it does seem to stretch itself so much that it lost any focus or idea as to what it's suppose to be. In fact, judging from your reply, it does kinda feel like CoC2 really drifted away from the ideas of OG and became more of someone's DnD campaign. It really feels like it would be better received if it wasn't called CoC2.

Honestly, part of me wonders how much of the original vision of CoC2 is still in there. More specifically, I remember the design document saying how CoC1 was about the loss of humanity and CoC2 is supposed to be about the "Corruption of the Soul". I wonder how much of that is true nowadays...

 

[Quintilus]

NGL, I didn't really know it's something they acknowledge that much. I wonder why they bring so much attention to it if it's not something they want to expand upon. At this point, make an entire freaking faction called Dedickers who are designed to help to Kassyra's victims who grew a cock after her fly-by-through.

Its only one futa character that have such problem. But its story important character, this adds to disconnection. Most of the futas there are futas that nobody question, in a 'wait what? why do you have pp?' way.
But in addition to futas topic, there are such concept as magical dicks (dick that can be summoned to turn female futa temporary, exists only in sex scenes, again 'wait what? how? why?'). So good chunk of futas can be...defuted loosing only several lines in sex scenes like 'she finishes deep inside of your hole. Her hot semen slowly warms your insides up, or something like that, I dont know, is it even feels warm at all?'......and probably gaining lines like 'She smiled wickedly, looking you directly into the eyes. Blue light flashed in her crotch and you realized that you fucked up'.

 

[Alterism]

Why do we hate Quintillus as a companion again?

Truly? His content sorta sucks. His scenes are lackluster, his talks make my eyes glaze over, (for me personally) he's a dude that's not Berwyn, he's got no internal progression, he's got no real quest progression, and most of the things that involve him is Cait-esque imposing into locations not needed as opposed to staying in the containment zone that is his character menu.

None of the other companions have much good to say about him making him seem like an outsider. He somehow has even less to say in story events than Atugia. His talk scenes are incredibly brief. The character in general is shallow in the execution of what could be a very interesting in depth concept.

The worse part is that the character isn't unsalvageable. It would just require a lot of amendment:

• Give him some bro (if platonic) or hunk (if not) energy so he's more fun than he is
• This ex-cultist should have more to say against cultists. Even something simple as a one time only blurb when meeting certain types of cultists for the first time would go well
• More strong opinions about anything that's going. You're trying (or maybe not) to bang the big bad demon babe that started this entire mess and by proxy changes his life. Why is he so mute about this fact
• Get rid of that failed ladies man schtick

I'm not into dudes but that doesn't mean I'm adverse to dudes with good content. Parasite Black has your best friend being a literal Adonis dreamy hunk of a man who is off having his own babe-tastic adventures but has your back in every corner.

Tune that bro/hunk energy right up and watch as people start swooning as you have a character whose in game vocation is a charmer being capable of being the best bud and wingman to you (if platonic) or sweeping you off your feet (if not)
But. You know
BubbleLord so the character is going to be half baked forever...

Funny set though

How could you not love it.

 

[Skandranon]

It really feels like it would be better received if it wasn't called CoC2.

I take issue with this specifically, for two reasons.

One, its already pretty well received. The number of positive reviews for this game dwarf negative reviews, by a lot. I wouldn't say the atmosphere in this specific thread accurately represents the games reception in general.

And two: you only have to flip over to the TiTs thread and notice that that game isn't called CoC2 and still gets largely the same complaints to see that that's not the primary issue.