Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.32] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[balitz Method]

Arona's submissive state only describes her relationship to the PC. It doesn't fundamentally change her personality.

It's basically like Izma from CoC where she'll still be aggressive toward anyone else.

 

[Vahn Solidor]

Question.

Anybody sent Jaelyn to Wayfort instead of Hawkethonre? Whats the difference? Don't wanna restart game AGAIN yet ( tho Arona IS pissin me off )

 

[Kallisto]

They're doing the opposite of the TiTS strategy where a new setting will be released roughly every time we get a new pope and content will build and build and build till there's no place for new characters. Laying the skeletons down and filling them out later is a better way to ensure that progress does get made.

Yea but there's a happy medium to be found here. Wanting dungeon areas to be fleshed out a little more quickly doesn't automatically mean people want TiTs style of getting out content (which as you stated, doesn't have the best pacing either). The beehive dungeon came out in Nov 2019 and after one more update for it in the same month, it took about 9 months for any meaningful additional content to be added to it. And that content still leaves a big part of the dungeon bare and quests/corruption unable to be finished yet. To me thats a crazy amount of time to leave an area unfinished.

In comparison, Kitsune den had steady updates within 3 months of the dungeon coming out and is a pretty fleshed out dungeon compared to Hornet, Centaur, and even Winter City I would say.

I can't say what the best solution would be because I'm not on the writing team or in Savin's head. But from the outside looking in, it just seems like more could be done to flesh out areas either before or while other writers are working on different new dungeons/locations.

 

[Thatsaguy]

Question.

Anybody sent Jaelyn to Wayfort instead of Hawkethonre? Whats the difference? Don't wanna restart game AGAIN yet ( tho Arona IS pissin me off )

I save tested this as Jaelyn content had my curiosity peaked, its mostly an outfit/minor context change, scenes seem largely the same. If you send her to Hawkethorne, she wears a French maid style outfit and isn't turned into a demon. If you send her to Wayfort she becomes a demon, giving her horns and a tail. She wears a barmaid style outfit. Biggest change aside from that is that you don't have access to Ryn's threesome scene unless Ryn has a high libido. Also if you didn't kill Alraune she'll have the lethicite, but that seems currently incomplete as I couldn't find a way to discuss or retrieve it.

 

[Archaon11111]

Arona's submissive state only describes her relationship to the PC. It doesn't fundamentally change her personality.

It's basically like Izma from CoC where she'll still be aggressive toward anyone else.

That is true when having sex with other NPC's and Companion without you present she still takes charge and dicks them hard. I'm more annoyed though when having the threesome with the Naga she treats you like a bitch even when you are in charge of the relationship.

 

[Vahn Solidor]

I save tested this as Jaelyn content had my curiosity peaked, its mostly an outfit/minor context change, scenes seem largely the same. If you send her to Hawkethorne, she wears a French maid style outfit and isn't turned into a demon. If you send her to Wayfort she becomes a demon, giving her horns and a tail. She wears a barmaid style outfit. Biggest change aside from that is that you don't have access to Ryn's threesome scene unless Ryn has a high libido. Also if you didn't kill Alraune she'll have the lethicite, but that seems currently incomplete as I couldn't find a way to discuss or retrieve it.

Thanks man. *sigh* Guess that i WILL have to restart ( on my main save sent her to Garth )

 

[Archaon11111]

Yeah i was trying to make two changes one in the eyes of the champion(Lupine) one was to make his eyes slit like a cat but i wanted them to be of the color haze as well(Only managed to make them slit pupils and his coloro of eyes is blue) but i dontk now how since the posibility of changing the face of the character is high i mean i already change his tongue to a forked one, and another question what is the difference between having white fur or whatever passes as white hair and have "artic" one.
Another thing was changing the color of his junk i wanted to experiment a little with that XD and just got a minotaur dark one and i dont know how to change the color without changing shape, (I mean i wanted to change to another shape but i dont know what other shape is interesting besides the canine and minotaur one)
I prolly will make more questions when i am done with this champion and start another play with a female champion hahaha

- I think you'd have to cycle through rng with transformations to make them catlike but with lupine face.
- For color I don't believe you can change eye color to hazel yet, since I tried experimenting and couldn't find one
- Arctic hair probably means a more fluffy character
- Color of your junk is same with your skin color

 

[JTakiyaa]

That is true when having sex with other NPC's and Companion without you present she still takes charge and dicks them hard. I'm more annoyed though when having the threesome with the Naga she treats you like a bitch even when you are in charge of the relationship.

Wow, I either haven't being up to date or I missed the encounter. Where can you find this naga enemy? Was it a new enemy on the glacial map?

 

[Kroenen12]

Wow, I either haven't being up to date or I missed the encounter. Where can you find this naga enemy? Was it a new enemy on the glacial map?

is the sleepy snake, you can find her in Frostwood but is not an enemy.

 

[menatv]

I know if you are a sub to Arona, at times she will just grab you and have sex with you. Does she try anything like that if you in the dom role? Just wondered if she will would try to assert some dominance over you from time to time.

Those Cultists in the rift are tough. At least if you don't have a lot of mental resistance against them. Hopefully we will be able to get levels about 5 fairly soon.

 

[S0lid_Sn4ke]

I know if you are a sub to Arona, at times she will just grab you and have sex with you. Does she try anything like that if you in the dom role? Just wondered if she will would try to assert some dominance over you from time to time.

Those Cultists in the rift are tough. At least if you don't have a lot of mental resistance against them. Hopefully we will be able to get levels about 5 fairly soon.

Not to my experience before i had to restart the game D: when i chose her as a sleeping partner you literally sleep inside her(You have sex with her but she suggests that both of you stay that way until the next day) but i didnt have a 3way with her yet and reading all this i wont be doing that either xD i will just go spend the nights with brienne instead she a keeper.
And i dont know how much content they will be making with arona in the future but i am starting to think it wont be that great or will be predictible at most if the character is like this xd

 

[destroyerofassholes]

Not to my experience before i had to restart the game D: when i chose her as a sleeping partner you literally sleep inside her(You have sex with her but she suggests that both of you stay that way until the next day) but i didnt have a 3way with her yet and reading all this i wont be doing that either xD i will just go spend the nights with brienne instead she a keeper.
And i dont know how much content they will be making with arona in the future but i am starting to think it wont be that great or will be predictible at most if the character is like this xd

Her own content is decent. Her sleep content is great too. But all of her threesome content is written to be "normal" in both her submissive and dominant states so it ends up being really, really out of place and weird. You really don't get the feeling that she is your bitch in any of the threesome scenes, because it has to look normal in a dominant-arona save as well. It's a bad mid-point that satisfies neither end.

Meh. Still one of my favorite characters, but goddamn some of the design choices make little sense.

 

[WhiteCafination]

I know this is a late reply and has nothing to do with the current conversation. But to be honest Cait never seemed interesting to me, with the only interesting thing about her being the Cat Call story line that isn't even complete yet and will probably take years. So i just benched her without even sexing her. Hell even Purple Hair is a more interesting character than she is.

 

[Archaon11111]

I know if you are a sub to Arona, at times she will just grab you and have sex with you. Does she try anything like that if you in the dom role? Just wondered if she will would try to assert some dominance over you from time to time.

Those Cultists in the rift are tough. At least if you don't have a lot of mental resistance against them. Hopefully we will be able to get levels about 5 fairly soon.

Nope, but maybe if we are allowed to impregnate her in the future it could be like Brienne and Hertha where they'll just drag you in for sex regardless if you want to or not during pregnancy heat,

 

[Megumin.]

That level cap bullshit baffles me. I don't understand why they did this.
I have a friend that literally got stuck and couldn't get pass a certain fight no matter the party members and gears because of this. Obviously the idea of cheating by increasing your stats with save editor wasn't appealing to him so he just dropped the game entirely.

 

[destroyerofassholes]

That level cap bullshit baffles me. I don't understand why they did this.
I have a friend that literally got stuck and couldn't get pass a certain fight no matter the party members and gears because of this. Obviously the idea of cheating by increasing your stats with save editor wasn't appealing to him so he just dropped the game entirely.

At the end of the day it's a porn game. 99.9999 percent of people who play this are not playing for a half-baked turn based combat system.

Turn on easy mode, cheat whatever you want, I don't see the point of pride in a porn game since the combt is obviously not a priority in its design (rightfully so).

 

[Kaftein]

Turn on easy mode, cheat whatever you want, I don't see the point of pride in a porn game since the combt is obviously not a priority in its design (rightfully so).

Largely because using a save editor is a pain in the ass. We're here to beat our meat, as you say, so it's annoying that we can't just grind our way to oneshotting everyone.

 

[BlacJak]

At the end of the day it's a porn game. 99.9999 percent of people who play this are not playing for a half-baked turn based combat system.

Turn on easy mode, cheat whatever you want, I don't see the point of pride in a porn game since the combt is obviously not a priority in its design (rightfully so).

That's something I never understood in context to any game like this, whether it be TiTS, COCI/II, Tales of Androgyny, etc. If most of the people playing it are just there for the porn, why even make a "game" out of it? I feel like you would be better off just making a Choose Your Own Adventure story or something else and disregard making any sort of "game".

 

[actualrealname]

That's something I never understood in context to any game like this, whether it be TiTS, COCI/II, Tales of Androgyny, etc. If most of the people playing it are just there for the porn, why even make a "game" out of it? I feel like you would be better off just making a Choose Your Own Adventure story or something else and disregard making any sort of "game".

You're pretty right, like 90% of porn games would be much better off just being a VN instead of trying to force in other systems too. There's a couple that are clearly putting in the effort to be alright games as well, but even then it's best to just include a skip button.

Generally speaking gameplay just feels like a way to pad out playtime, with very little thought put into making it fun or worth caring about.

 

[throwaway333woo]

You're pretty right, like 90% of porn games would be much better off just being a VN instead of trying to force in other systems too. There's a couple that are clearly putting in the effort to be alright games as well, but even then it's best to just include a skip button.

Generally speaking gameplay just feels like a way to pad out playtime, with very little thought put into making it fun or worth caring about.

I can see the appeal of combat. The first times I'd win a fight and get to the scene it was sorta hot in a way, lie a prize. Problem is when you try to get to, say, the dryads introduced in the last patch, then you'll have to tell the elf troupe to fuck off 10 times, tell the horse dicked elf boy to fuck off another dozen, then tell the bees that you don't want to be sodomized couple more, clear out your inventory from trash your MC randomly picks up AND on top of that exterminate half the continents population of wolves. God forbid you forget to save when you're done. The randomness and sheer volume of it all makes it so at some point you're just clicking through all the walls of text just to get to the part that isn't repetitive.