YouShallNotLol

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To be fair the creator of Berwyn had a mental breakdown and savin cut him off so I kinda get the change (this is what I got from looking at the fenoxo forums).
That's what Savin says happened. Are you really gonna trust Savin's words? After all that he has done?
What's more likely, is that they (Savin and ToBS) were bullying/harrasing Berwyn's writer for whatever reason, ultimately causing them to quit.
 

Skandranon

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That's what Savin says happened. Are you really gonna trust Savin's words? After all that he has done?
What's more likely, is that they (Savin and ToBS) were bullying/harrasing Berwyn's writer for whatever reason, ultimately causing them to quit.
There's enough shit to fling around without just making stuff up.

From Hugs' Twitter:
"He let me write free content for his game for years then threw me away when my mental illness made me difficult to work with, he disallowed me to work on my own character, and then the game entirely."

Hugs had to keep taking time off for long periods of time, missing deadlines, etc. Hugs said so himself. He just thinks Savin handled it in a crappy manner, which could be true, I dunno.



But accusing people of bullying and harassment out of pocket is a bad look.
Let's not?
 

majbu989

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That's what Savin says happened.
HugsAlright had a lot of mental issues way before he was kicked out of the forum and he left the game development years before any of his internet drama, it's not just Savin and the other writer that he had conflict with he was picking fights with everyone and threatening suicide plus he started making snuff porn stories of his characters.

This guy was making furry smut for a decade in fenoxo forum/games he wasn't some random smut writer for CoC2.
 

YouShallNotLol

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There's enough shit to fling around without just making stuff up.

From Hugs' Twitter:
"He let me write free content for his game for years then threw me away when my mental illness made me difficult to work with, he disallowed me to work on my own character, and then the game entirely."

Hugs had to keep taking time off for long periods of time, missing deadlines, etc. Hugs said so himself. He just thinks Savin handled it in a crappy manner, which could be true, I dunno.



But accusing people of bullying and harassment out of pocket is a bad look.
Let's not?
If anything, siding with Savin, as you do every single time - is a bad look. :KEK:
 

YouShallNotLol

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HugsAlright had a lot of mental issues way before he was kicked out of the forum and he left the game development years before any of his internet drama, it's not just Savin and the other writer that he had conflict with he was picking fights with everyone and threatening suicide plus he started making snuff porn stories of his characters.

This guy was making furry smut for a decade in fenoxo forum/games he wasn't some random smut writer for CoC2.
I didn't know about snuff stories, or suicide threats.
But I guess working with Savin for years only made Hugs' mental problems worse.
 

JustADude321

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I stopped playing around the time minotaur city was beginning to be introduced, have they added any good female companions since then? I was big into Kyoko and Brienne, but the lack of proper Kinu content kinda turned me off so I've put the game down for years
 
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Biostar

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I wish Berwyn was still a companion (mind you I very much like turning the useless Femboy into a female with a huge rack and a womb to flood since Impregnation is my fetish but still, losing a Companion hardly feels like a fair trade for getting my fetish fulfilled.)
Especially when the preg content itself is so underwhelming. Don't even have preg busts or his old scenes. He stays in the pub until then. I learned my lesson from Kiyoko.
To be fair the creator of Berwyn had a mental breakdown and savin cut him off so I kinda get the change (this is what I got from looking at the fenoxo forums).
No matter what occurred, it didn't require benching Berwyn. They already had his companion content made so that's not an excuse.
 

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"If you've done the Ring of Fate quest (or refused it) from Calise, you can walk in on the Stormcaller from that dungeon visiting her pops in the village. " Does anyone know where it is?
 

yuzuyo

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That's what Savin says happened. Are you really gonna trust Savin's words? After all that he has done?
What's more likely, is that they (Savin and ToBS) were bullying/harrasing Berwyn's writer for whatever reason, ultimately causing them to quit.
Imagine getting so obsessed over some smut writer that you start to create conspiracies and rumors about them as some sort of payback. As they say: rent free.
 
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Oh hey a new Kiyoko dom scene, neat! (That is literaly the only thing of Worth I'm seeing in this update...eh gonna wait bit more till there's more content worth checking before downloading anything)

Also I will say this: Initial Anonart comissions were ugly as fuck but more recent ones are honestly decent, I think their best one so far is the Blood Knight
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really mad you cant have her like Aileh. I want me a dommy ripped blood knight either on my team or living somewhere so i can work my way into her heart like Aileh
 

balitz Method

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No matter what occurred, it didn't require benching Berwyn. They already had his companion content made so that's not an excuse.
It was probably a case of having a small pool of writers who've proven themselves reliable enough to be trusted with companion content and each of those wanting to do their own waifu rather than adopting one. ...Of course, from what I've seen of the newer companions, that doesn't work out all that well, either. Characters who really don't have enough appeal (or, on the flip side, clear appeal but way too much baggage) have been made into companions and gained no traction from contributors because only their creator wants to write for them.

Part of the reason Cait gets so much content is simply because you can fit her into most any type of scene. Who's going to write more Kiyoko material with the Observer breathing down their neck or Azzy scenes when you must take into account the divisive 'she's dating someone else right in front of you' aspect?

IMO a good companion candidate should have an immediately obvious appeal/niche that has broad applications (so not something so specific that content for them -has- to cater to a single fetish; save that for gimmick NPCs), a unique but not too complex character concept to hang quest writing and scenes on (in other words: the character needs to be easily defined enough that other writers can create a firm vision of what that character's deal is in their mind without consulting a giant character lore bible), and connected enough to the story at large for them to be involved in big events. Cait, Brint, Etheryn, and Arona fit all those criteria; it's no surprise that they get the most scenes by far.

Atugia had potential, but the swing and a miss there is the lack of obvious appeal and failure to use her unique character concept for scenes. In her material it never really matters that she can take her head off. Eryka, the paladin, also overlaps with and overshadows her by leaning harder on the 'switches from rough to tender' concept that Atugia only flirts with. If these two characters had been combined they'd add up to one decent companion fit for any muscle mommy scene.

Viviane misses all three marks: no obvious appeal in a game where literally everyone has huge boobs, too disconnected from everything to justify elevating her, and too generic for writers to have a firm sense of how she would slot into scenes. Replacing Berywn, a character with much more presence, just makes her inadequacy stand out more.

B should have gone with Zo. A mentor-type character for the PC is a strong and easily grasped concept that makes her stand out and provides a very flexible basis for expanding her content. His phoenix harpy is too much an 'I and only I think this is a really cool idea' project. It's not clear how she slots into the story, her appeal is somewhat nebulous, and even in combat it's tough to pin down a role for her. Your favorite character concept isn't necessarily the one that's best suited to the companion role.

Quint hits the right notes for relevancy and was probably envisioned as 'a male Cait'. He just flat-out falls short of that mark. In practice he always comes off more crude and catty than seductive and doesn't pull that off the way Berywn does. A brooding pretty boy Don Juan who cultivates an air of mystery needs to hit specific notes in order to work. While I do think he's salvageable I don't get the sense that Bubblelord knows how to write this type of character and that's put other people off from taking a crack at him.

Cait, Brint, Etheryn, Arona, Garret, revised Quint, Atugia/Eryka hybrid, Berwyn, and Zo would be a very solid lineup.
 
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