lead118

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Semantically yes.I should have specified ntr, but unfortunately as other users have pointed out, there is no good translation for it in english. Having one's cherished person, to which a certain amount of love is held, be stolen away from them sexually, while being unable to do anything is a form of ntr. It isnt the same as cucking and I apologize for the confusion, I am also not the most proficient with english and just assumed it meant the same as ntr.

It is more cringe for me that scenes are written about things that could be easily avoided. Give me some interaction, let me decide if my character watches and cries or intervenes in a show of dominance. I know Savin can write scenes like this, cause he did write for CoC 1 with helia, a scene where you can steal her away from a minotaur.
This may be neither here nor there, but Savin has his own issues. If I remember correctly, he directly 'forbid' modders from using his characters. It's one thing to not like NTR, but Savin takes it to schizo levels.
 

Wrynn13

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I too wonder about that. Now don't get me wrong; I know CoC and TiTS are helmed by a bunch of hacks who often can't write their way out of a paper bag and who employ artists who seem to worship ugliness, but how is Cait any different than the murderer's row of other made-for-porn characters across the games? At least in CoC2, the forefront NPC isn't a fucking dickgirl like Urta or a parody of debauchery like Anno.
In defense of Cait, her slaternly ways are explained by the whole Mallachite thing.
Most of the hate for Cait isn't for the character itself, though there certainly is some, but the way the character is forced down the players throat. The shear amount of content you lose out on if you refuse to recruit her is staggering. It's made very clear she is the main character of the game, not your donut.
 
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This may be neither here nor there, but Savin has his own issues. If I remember correctly, he directly 'forbid' modders from using his characters. It's one thing to not like NTR, but Savin takes it to schizo levels.
I am just asking to be able to not have ntr forced down my throath. For instance, excluding defeat rape, every rape scene in this game is completely avoidable. Even the very first "villain" of the game does not force the player into sex with her, despite it making no sense from a story perspective (I have not experienced much of the new content since a year or 2 ago so I am not sure if this still holds up). Why then am I subjected to watch ntr scenes when I don't enjoy them and would like to avoid them? Both are extreme content that most people don't enjoy. The fact that much of the content surrounding Cait involves some fort of ntr is obnoxious considering how much of a secondary protagonist she is.
 

Daken9

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That's a mod thing. In the OG game, you can join in (Buttfuck her or blow him) or leave, and afterward, you can cry to her to stop
Knowing the cringe CoC could get up to, my mind went to full tears running the cheeks, piss running down the legs, begging the token slut to not fuck around. Isn't much far from the stuff with the futa ferret and the mouse girl. Kind of shit i will renounce before satan in my dying day.
 

Wrynn13

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Thats actually hilarious, I thought people on the mod didn't touch his stuff cause he asked? Guess that one skipped his eyes.

Regardless, if that is true then I take my statement back, he sucks.
Savin was toxic as fuck to the modders. His characters absolutely got touched by them but only after he started harassing people in the the mod section of Fen's forums. No hate was lost by either side.
 

Wyrtyn

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I just came here to confirm that the garbage dumb that is this thread is still in fact burning. I assume the garbage dump that is the game is faring the same?
 

Wyrtyn

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I genuinely do not like any characters Savin writes. It's a power fantasy game where you wanna fuck everything that walks but his characters are so special in that they strip away any power from the main character. It's a total boner killer for me. The sad part is he writes decently, and his stories are engaging, it's just the characters that are completely unappealing to me. It's a shame that in a game about having as much sex as possible, his characters are the ones I usually draw a hard line on not wanting to fuck, just to avoid unpleasant feelings down the line. I'm not sure if it's due to insecurity (has many in this thread and even more in fenoxo forums seem to suggest) or it's genuinely just cuck content being unappealing in general to the masses and all he does is write those sort of scenes (which many in this thread also point to).

Let me just be clear, there is a place for cuck content, and I'm not trying to shame those who enjoy that content. All I ask is to make it completely avoidable. It's a fetish on the level of scat and guro in how extreme it is and I personally just want to not see it at all if possible. It's funny how rape is more avoidable in this game than cuck content, considering the first game.

And just to make sure I am defining "cuck content" properly since some here who think the Cait scenes aren't cuck content. It means having your power and agency stripped away and just standing in a scene as a passive observer, even if you get to keep fucking that character in other scenes. Voyerism, for people conflating the two, is actively seeking to see people have sex, cuck content is having sex witheld from you when you want it and stripping your power and agency and forcing you to observe a scene against your will, it's almost like a more emotional type of rape content. Many of Cait's scenes fall under that umbrella definition of cuck content, even if you disagree you can still see how others could feel that way. I don't feel strongly about having sluts in a game where everyone is sexually open (I loved Tamani in the original coc, as well as kelly, erika and erra in tits which are all slutty), but there is a difference from knowing someone is a slut and being exposed constantly to how much of a slut they are, especially when other scenes are more special and diverse than what you as the player are able to do at all.

I don't know where this idea came that in order for it to fall under cuck content, the character has to be in a relationship with the player. If a character keeps fucking others in front of me and telling me "others can have my cunt/ass/blowjob, but you can just stand there watching, even though you want it too, but don't worry, if I'm in the mood you get a turn too" that is literally cuckoldry, regardless of relationships and regardless of how slutty that character is.
I never understood why cucks are mad about being shamed. I thought humiliation was your thing dawg.
 

M0nte

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I never understood why cucks are mad about being shamed. I thought humiliation was your thing dawg.
It's less shame and more annoyance at the idea that somehow enjoying chuck content makes you a lesser person.

No one likes being shamed for what they enjoy. Especially when their enjoyment isn't hurting anyone.
 

YouShallNotLol

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Knowing the cringe CoC could get up to, my mind went to full tears running the cheeks, piss running down the legs, begging the token slut to not fuck around. Isn't much far from the stuff with the futa ferret and the mouse girl. Kind of shit i will renounce before satan in my dying day.
It's not as cancerous as you think. Remember, CoC1 despite its faults is still leagues above CoC2 in terms of player agency.
For one, Hel actually stops fucking minotaurs after the Champion asks her to stop doing it.
 
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My interpretation of the relationship between Savin and Fenoxo is that of 2 friends playing at employer/employee where Savin does a ton of shit and fucks around a lot instead of doing any meaningful work and Fenoxo just lets him cause he is scared of giving his best friend some reality checks (I know that if he really disliked Savin's ideas, they wouldn't be in the other games, I'm just drawing a funny comparison).

Another example is that of Fenoxo being the older sibling and being forced to share his toys with his younger sibling by their mom, and Savin always ending up either breaking his toys or using his lego sets to build completly random female model having sex with bulls when they were supposed to be building a star wars death star.
 
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My interpretation of the relationship between Savin and Fenoxo is that of 2 friends playing at employer/employee where Savin does a ton of shit and fucks around a lot instead of doing any meaningful work and Fenoxo just lets him cause he is scared of giving his best friend some reality checks (I know that if he really disliked Savin's ideas, they wouldn't be in the other games, I'm just drawing a funny comparison).

Another example is that of Fenoxo being the older sibling and being forced to share his toys with his younger sibling by their mom, and Savin always ending up either breaking his toys or using his lego sets to build completly random female model having sex with bulls when they were supposed to be building a star wars death star.
Jessie what the fuck are you talking about
 
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