Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.32] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[EdgeOfShadow]

Do you know how to get this one time choice? I have her as a companion but I don't see a challenge option...

If I remember well you get it at the end of her quest, but i might be wrong.

 

[Futa_Buddy]

If I remember well you get it at the end of her quest, but i might be wrong.

I just started a new game to test it, completed Land of Milky Honey and Sweetest Climax but I didn't get a challenge option... maybe they added this in a recent update? I only have the Steam version (0.3.27) so I think I am couple versions behind...

 

[EdgeOfShadow]

I just started a new game to test it, completed Land of Milky Honey and Sweetest Climax but I didn't get a challenge option... maybe they added this in a recent update? I only have the Steam version (0.3.27) so I think I am couple versions behind...

OK, I checked Wiki (I know, that's cheating) and basically during the initial encounters, if you win against her and select dominant options post battles you will be dom, if you lose you will be a sub. You can let her challenge you if you are dom.

 

[gregers]

Do you know how to get this one time choice? I have her as a companion but I don't see a challenge option...

If I remember well you get it at the end of her quest, but i might be wrong.

OK, I checked Wiki (I know, that's cheating) and basically during the initial encounters, if you win against her and select dominant options post battles you will be dom, if you lose you will be a sub. You can let her challenge you if you are dom.

Right. The challenge option should become available after her quest (when she's become a companion), if you've been the dominant partner thus far. If she's already the domme, there wouldn't be much point.

 

[throwaway333woo]

I hope you guys have a sweet tooth cuz this patch is fulla sugar~
0.3.30 Patch Notes:

• You can now follow up with Ahmri after CentaurQuest, assuming she wasn’t absconded-with by Tollus’s goons, including new sex options and the ability to marry the chunky pony. (
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• Arona has some new scenes in support of her impregnating the PC, showing off just how much she adores your baby bump… (
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New Since Last Public Patch:

• New Quest: Help Gweyr stop the cultists!
• New NPC: Lyla, the wandering knight!
• New NPC: Solveig, the half-lupine, half-orc. Found at the Frost Hound after GarretQuest and AronaQuest.
• New post-quest scenes with Chieftain Naiyana. New Etheryn buttfingering scene.
• New set for Brienne (NOT BRINT), gotten at level 5 from the Frost Hound.
• You can now move around the map by clicking on it when the crosshair is active. Adjacent locked tiles are now connected by a dotted line while exploring. The map also now has a marker on it when you’re in a region or dungeon over your level.

Ahmri titfucks art by Lazorchef!
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[Futa_Buddy]

Right. The challenge option should become available after her quest (when she's become a companion), if you've been the dominant partner thus far. If she's already the domme, there wouldn't be much point.

Okay, I understand now, thanks!

 

[WaterH20]

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0.3.30 Patch Notes:

• You can now follow up with Ahmri after CentaurQuest, assuming she wasn’t absconded-with by Tollus’s goons, including new sex options and the ability to marry the chunky pony. (
  You must be registered to see the links
  )
• Arona has some new scenes in support of her impregnating the PC, showing off just how much she adores your baby bump… (
  You must be registered to see the links
  )

New Since Last Public Patch:

• New Quest: Help Gweyr stop the cultists!
• New NPC: Lyla, the wandering knight!
• New NPC: Solveig, the half-lupine, half-orc. Found at the Frost Hound after GarretQuest and AronaQuest.
• New post-quest scenes with Chieftain Naiyana. New Etheryn buttfingering scene.
• New set for Brienne (NOT BRINT), gotten at level 5 from the Frost Hound.
• You can now move around the map by clicking on it when the crosshair is active. Adjacent locked tiles are now connected by a dotted line while exploring. The map also now has a marker on it when you’re in a region or dungeon over your level.

 

[NODOGAN]

Wait, does that mean Gweyr's quest is done done? or is it not fully implemented yet?

 

[EdgeOfShadow]

• Arona has some new scenes in support of her impregnating the PC, showing off just how much she adores your baby bump… (
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  )

I wonder what names for the baby bag did they invent this time

 

[M0nte]

I wonder what names for the baby bag did they invent this time

Womb.

 

[EdgeOfShadow]

Womb.

 

[atomicp]

The reason why a lot of characters do not get updated content regularly is down to few things.

1) They are not that popular. Just because you like it does not mean rest of the player base like it. Which probably leads to Savin and Co. pushing there content aside. Still, some writers enjoy writing for those characters enough that they will push through it even if most people do not care for it (See half of Bubblelord characters and his insistence on making Takahiro lovable).

2) The writer is not constant part of the writing team and they have other projects. Some authors, such as B and Gardeford just seem to write whenever they have time for so most of there characters recieve contents in short bursts. And since a lot of other writers do not have time to write for others (except if you are Observer that mad lad) they are left on the previrbial shelf on further notice. And just now, Atugias head rolled past me like tumble weed.

3) Some characters do not have that big of plans for them so they are mostly used as way to build on world and its inhabitants while also fulfiling specific sexual kink and design space that other existing characters maybe do not have reason or need to fulfill. They maybe will get something in the future but do not count on it. Look at random enemy encounters for example.

4) Artist got bored of them or left the team and no one wants to write instead of them . Now this is one I can hardly think of for examples since I do not have any of the authors to ask them directly and it rarely feels like character is just left for dead because author got bored of them. Goblin milf and most of town merchants could be argued to fall into that category. But at same time, Goblin MILF author just does not write much and merchants really do not need to have that much content around them since there primary thing is to sell loot. So yeah hard to tell.

And this last one is most important one in my opinion
5) The amount of content character gets is by the will of the writer or larger group colective (Savins choice). Characters are main content in this game. You know it, Savin and co know it, we all know it. Spreading out release of content for popular and planed NPCs not only makes us, the players , look forwoard to seeing more of there content, but it also keeps audience constantly engage. It also allows authors not to get burned out writing for same NPCs, it allows them to develop according to happenings in the story and it makes eventual release all that sweeter.
While yes, this all can lead to major case of blue balls, I think it is effective way of keeping us all engaged. How many of you are not opening this forum or there sites in hopes of seeing your favorite characters name writen in the patch notes. Until you realise it is just updated CG while Cait has gained all new content involving her new kitty prick. Writen by Observer, anal scene cowriten by Savin.

I'll add my tibits about points 2, 4 and 5!

Since I know one of the commissioned writers (for TiTS, afaik they didn't do anything for CoC2), I'll have some insider acknowledgment of what we already expect and what you've just said above.

Anyway, my friend really doesn't know the why and how but some writers just plain forbid any other collaborators on working on their stuff and the management is like "Okay, sure". Their creation is now off limits, even long after they have left the writing staff.

Which doesn't even fucking follow their own submission guideline*!

I understand that any submitted characters may have bad things happen to them. Characters may grow new genitalia, lose existing genitals, be killed by pirates, or enslaved by bad guys (including player characters) in the future. Fenoxo will attempt to have my characters behave in keeping with their personality, but due to the nature of the game, personality-altering events may occur.

This is also off the record known among the writers as "The Observer Schtick" for several obvious reasons.

Aka, content update is withheld dead in the water until Savin the team decides someone may have some input on it or the original writer comes back. Of course, there are some exceptions and a few content creators specifically state that their content can be freely updated by others.

tl;dr: Things that got started but left to rotten in a barebones state, are nothing more than a management issue, all in all. Which shouldn't surprise no one.


*maybe that guideline is only for TiTS?

 

[FalconBlook]

Saw in the patch notes that there was a new Etheryn scene and had to try it.

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I have to say, playing on silly mode is totally worth it

 

[Thatsaguy]

I'll add my tibits about points 2, 4 and 5!

Since I know one of the commissioned writers (for TiTS, afaik they didn't do anything for CoC2), I'll have some insider acknowledgment of what we already expect and what you've just said above.

Anyway, my friend really doesn't know the why and how but some writers just plain forbid any other collaborators on working on their stuff and the management is like "Okay, sure". Their creation is now off limits, even long after they have left the writing staff.

Which doesn't even fucking follow their own submission guideline*!



This is also off the record known among the writers as "The Observer Schtick" for several obvious reasons.

Aka, content update is withheld dead in the water until Savin the team decides someone may have some input on it or the original writer comes back. Of course, there are some exceptions and a few content creators specifically state that their content can be freely updated by others.

tl;dr: Things that got started but left to rotten in a barebones state, are nothing more than a management issue, all in all. Which shouldn't surprise no one.


*maybe that guideline is only for TiTS?

None of this is that surprising, though it is pretty disappointing to hear this is how it works.
Treating outside writers with the assumption that they might dip at any point is fine (also treating them different from writers on the team is fine), but I'd assume any hired writer should have some form of clause to ensure that if they leave the team their character can be written for by any of the other writers. Then again, I'm not surprised. It seems like most small dev teams tend to have a terminal case of allowing contributors way too much power over their contributions.

Also while I'm here fuck The Observer Schtick. Just another reason to dislike The Observer.

 

[EagleClass]

So I have no way of playing CoC1 due to Flash Player being dead, and I heard that game had a dynamic character visualizer (mod) is there currently any project like that for CoC2?

 

[EdgeOfShadow]

So I have no way of playing CoC1 due to Flash Player being dead

Huh? Just use Flash Player local player instead of browser, there you go: flashplayer_32_sa.rar

 

[Bootyman]

I assume that the Observer Shtick is that he gets to write whatever he wants and fuck everyone else?

 

[Hopeless DIO]

I assume that the Observer Shtick is that he gets to write whatever he wants and fuck everyone else?

It’s closer to “my vision only” and will go out of his way to spite people that disagree, like making Kinu have daddy issues after a forced time skip when releasing Kiyoko or making the soldier kitsune hate you frame 1 for just existing

 

[atomicp]

I'll be completely and total honest here. I don't think TheObserver is a bad writer per se. But he keeps on trying to reach beyond his own grasp.

What he really needs is an honest editor outside his hugbox. It shows badly.

As of right now he's firmly (and proudly) rooted on Mount Stupid, as explained by the Dunning-Kruger effect.

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I'll exemplify with a bit criticism of on this very short, specific scene fragment.

"Her petite body trembles and squirms under you, wracked with pangs of desire; her already wet pussy is starting to drool in earnest, belly muscles clenching hungrily at the promise of concupiscence."

A good editor would spot that the use of wracked (destroyed), instead wrecked (sinking).

Is that a issue? Not by itself... but it becomes one, as this paragraph sentence continues, using as "trembles and squirms", "pangs" and "belly muscles clenching" it pretty much paints a picture of physical discomfort, instead of sexual desire.

Which makes me think that TheObserver himself must have realized this - that's why he tried to salvage it with his thesaurus, inserting a "concupiscence".

But that is also it's fucking wrong, since concupiscence means "longing and/or involuntary desire, usually sexual in nature", it's worsens a already confused and contradictory sentence with an (very) immersion breaker "big word".

Writing is not like figure skating, where flashier tricks are required to stand out. I mean, very skilled writers avoid flowery writing because it's troublesome to make it work.

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I'll add two quotes from a (really good) book about writing, "How to not write a novel", by Howard Mittelmark and Sandra Newman:

"Nigel Tufnel in This Is Spinal Tap memorably pointed out that there is a fine line between clever and stupid. The harder you try to be clever, the more momentum you will have when you arrive at that line, and the less likely you are to notice when you cross it.

Beginning writers often believe that the true genius uses only words from the furthest reaches of the English language, the darkest recesses of the dictionary, the sort of words that cannot survive on their own in any natural environment.

Sorry; this is not writing. This is showing off, and nobody likes a show-off.

There are of course things you would write that you would not say in conversation ("I said, bewildered"), but words that draw attention to themselves by their rarity draw attention away from the story you are telling and remind the reader of the writer and his thesaurus. In a worst-case scenario, a game of ping-pong develops between the writer‘s thesaurus and the reader‘s dictionary.

When the reader has stopped to wonder at your delamificatious vocabulary, or, worse, when the reader has stopped because the word you‘ve used has no more meaning to him than a random ptliijnbvc of letters, the reader is not involved in your story.

This is not to say that you should write with one hand tied behind your back, making sure that you only use language accessible to a fifth grader. There is nothing wrong with making the occasional reader occasionally reach for the dictionary. However, the only legitimate reason to do that is if the word you have chosen is the best word to express the idea. Generally, saying "edifice" instead of "building" doesn‘t tell your reader anything more about the building; it tells the reader that you know the word edifice

 

[organord]

I feel you might be giving him too much credit, by assuming he realizes how darned unsexy much of his writing is, and tries to "salvage" it consciously.

I'm pretty sure he just uses big words because it makes him feel smarter, which means whatever he does is automatically good.
Looking at how the guy responds on the fenoxo forums, he's a pretentious douchewaffle.

Another thing that absolutely slays me is when he tries to write Japanese-sounding moans in English.
Yes, his kitsune knockoffs are basically wannabe-Japanese, but god that moaning is cringy to the point that my dick turns inside out.