atomicp

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If the battle system and RPG elements were worth the grind, and etc... But they suck.

I'm no (video)game designer but for a game who harps how the champion is special and what not, I feel that in most battles the companions are doing everything, and my pc is just there to support them.
 

Thatsaguy

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I'm gonna go ahead and say that I don't think the game harps on too much about you being special outside of your connection to Kas and magical special soul/portal magic thing, both of which could be viewed as being irrelevant to how strong your character is in the grand scheme of things. I personally don't like the combat system too much to be fair but I wouldn't tie it to a failing in the writing. Just more that the combat is even more of an automatic snoozefest than their other games, where at least in TiTS and CoC1 it felt like your choices had impact with how effective you are in combat, whether or not that is actually true.

The lack of Masculine Male on Male Champion is really bad in CoC2, off hand I can only really recall Brint as a potential option. To bring Observer up again, its pretty clear Observer has no interest in writing Guy on Guy stuff which is fine, but due to them disallowing others to write for their characters we'll probably never get any gay scenes of their male characters. Its extra weird because I'm pretty sure they've also said that their characters being gay would make them massively out of character, but I don't have a source on that so I dunno. I think it just sucks that at current if you're in to men your choices are generally limited to femboys and brint (as far as I remember, not counting enemy rape).
 

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I'm gonna go ahead and say that I don't think the game harps on too much about you being special outside of your connection to Kas and magical special soul/portal magic thing, both of which could be viewed as being irrelevant to how strong your character is in the grand scheme of things. I personally don't like the combat system too much to be fair but I wouldn't tie it to a failing in the writing. Just more that the combat is even more of an automatic snoozefest than their other games, where at least in TiTS and CoC1 it felt like your choices had impact with how effective you are in combat, whether or not that is actually true.

The lack of Masculine Male on Male Champion is really bad in CoC2, off hand I can only really recall Brint as a potential option. To bring Observer up again, its pretty clear Observer has no interest in writing Guy on Guy stuff which is fine, but due to them disallowing others to write for their characters we'll probably never get any gay scenes of their male characters. Its extra weird because I'm pretty sure they've also said that their characters being gay would make them massively out of character, but I don't have a source on that so I dunno. I think it just sucks that at current if you're in to men your choices are generally limited to femboys and brint (as far as I remember, not counting enemy rape).
Speaking of CoC1 and TITS as well as our char being "Special" i never understood why maxing every stat ISN'T an option here compared with those two games! hell in TITS i always go out of my way to maximize every single stat to have more options available, here? "hurr durr here your stats, you can't improve, your companions will always have better stats/more statpoints btw" like...what's the point? this isn't Dungeons and Dragons, is not even that balanced a system anyway, HELL aren't we bathed in portal energy? us being "Special" by being able to max all your stats in-game would make SO MUCH SENSE, it just pisses me off is all.
 

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Gotta say one thing i openly dislike in the game is how certain characters aren't well...sexable be the right word?
Yeah I feel you on this. When I first started the game and met Ogrish (the hawkthorne blacksmith) and despite his fugly art, I was like sweet. A gruff, muscled orc sign me up. Anndddd he has no scenes.

Then there's another male blacksmith, this one in the orc camp during the orc dungeon. You can suck him off in exchange for his help. I was looking forward to meeting him again once Arona was in charge and he just disappeared? He was replaced with a female blacksmith and still hasn't made a reappearance afaik. I assume this is because whoever wrote him didn't want to write more scenes or he was a fan submission with no further content or something. But it's just annoying that here was a perfectly good masculine male npc and he's just outright replaced by a female npc. I know again, the main audience are more into feminine npcs on dick-wielding PCs, but I still hate it. T.T

There's also the starving male kitsune with the two female kitsune that you can only meet before defeating the Alraune. Scenes mostly involve the women all over you and rarely the dude. The excuse is that the women take too much energy from you and so the man doesn't want to risk feeding from you as well, and would rather his companions feed before him. The only time he gets involved is if you throw Cait at the women (finally she's useful to me) and then he actually feeds from you but its not a huge scene.

So yea I definitely end up feeling kinda cockblocked or outright disregarded sometimes, especially when it comes to masculine male npcs.
 

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The lack of Masculine Male on Male Champion is really bad in CoC2, off hand I can only really recall Brint as a potential option. To bring Observer up again, its pretty clear Observer has no interest in writing Guy on Guy stuff which is fine, but due to them disallowing others to write for their characters we'll probably never get any gay scenes of their male characters. Its extra weird because I'm pretty sure they've also said that their characters being gay would make them massively out of character, but I don't have a source on that so I dunno. I think it just sucks that at current if you're in to men your choices are generally limited to femboys and brint (as far as I remember, not counting enemy rape).
There's also Quintillus, who's written by Bubblelord. I love him to bits as well. But yeah, the amount of masculine male on male content is disappointing. I honestly wouldn't even mind the femboys if their designs had any sort of masculine features to them. So far most of the femboys look like they designed a woman and just slapped a penis on them.
 
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menatv

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Yep, same here. I wouldn't mind it if the femboys were more aggressive/dominant as well. But it could be they just don't have the writing staff who wants to write those scenes.
 
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I think Fen and Co have shifted more towards wanting to make a regular RPG with Sexual elements, instead of a Porn Game with RPG elements. Explaining why they have regular NPC's with quests and that aren't sexable, however if that's the case, why make a portrait of the character and a detailed description? Because that'd probably make your customerbase want to fuck the character. And since the Writer's dont want to write Smut for those characters they end up being cockblocked. At least that's my two cents.
Couple of reasons. First, because they can. Second. portraits are more of way to help people in picturing NPCs while writen descriptions are more detailed version of how NPCs look and given guideling for artists. And it does help reader picture who is giving them quest, makes the giver seem more important and leaves option if someone wants to write for them in the future when it comes to sex or they have planned sexual scenes just non written at the moment.
 
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Kallisto

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Anyone got the 3.30 public release? This thread has not been updated yet.
Since it's just the public release, you can get it straight from their website.

They have a browser, windows and android version.
 

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Since it's just the public release, you can get it straight from their website.

They have a browser, windows and android version.
I am aware, but the download seems to not work most of the time, downloading at an extremely slow speed and randomly failing. Was hoping just for an alternate download here.
 

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Well, the combat tries as hard as possible to be 4e, but missing all the checkmarks that made that edition's combat work. Or any game that emulates a non-boring combat, IMO.
Only one i know is 5e since i'm pretty new, tried to research 4e with a youtuber and all it said was that it was an economic failure and the least popular edition, not really educative.
 

atomicp

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Only one i know is 5e since i'm pretty new, tried to research 4e with a youtuber and all it said was that it was an economic failure and the least popular edition, not really educative.
In raw numbers of sales, it was the second best selling edition (according to EN World), but it was really divisive.

Like, "split the playbase in half" divisive.
 

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In raw numbers of sales, it was the second best selling edition (according to EN World), but it was really divisive.

Like, "split the playbase in half" divisive.
Huh, he didn't mentioned that, i can see which side of the split he was on at least lol.
 

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I don't know how you guys can find the combat system worse than the first game's, or even TiTS's. Unlike the first game's, at least magic is actually worth a shit more than extremely rarely, for 1 thing.
 
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I don't know how you guys can find the combat system worse than the first game's, or even TiTS's. Unlike the first game's, at least magic is actually worth a shit more than extremely rarely, for 1 thing.
You really have to think about it from the source material perspective. Hence the basing of the "power" system of cool down being based off of Fourth Edition DnD. The balance is much easier when you have some designated roles and reskins of those roles into various flavorings. At least that's how I view it, and personally I kind of enjoy having some overlap in the basic roles that teammates can fulfill, striking that sweet spot between synergy and balanced team comp.
Though this fondness is only for the single-player style of Fen's games, 4e was a travesty for party teamwork.
 
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You really have to think about it from the source material perspective. Hence the basing of the "power" system of cool down being based off of Fourth Edition DnD. The balance is much easier when you have some designated roles and reskins of those roles into various flavorings. At least that's how I view it, and personally I kind of enjoy having some overlap in the basic roles that teammates can fulfill, striking that sweet spot between synergy and balanced team comp.
Though this fondness is only for the single-player style of Fen's games, 4e was a travesty for party teamwork.
Not sure what you're saying. All I know is CoC1:*Click Blind if you want to, click attack, click attack, click attack, click attack, click attack... TiTS:*Mix in Overcharge a couple of times, unless you're fighting a Milodan, in which case a P-Shock, with Shoot, Shoot, do your shield regen at some point, Shoot, Shoot, Shoot... until done.
 
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