Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.32] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[redcynic]

I just fundamentally find it annoying to have to read essay-length scenes about Kitsune culture to get my dick wet in fluffy tails. Put that stuff in like, an optional talk you can have with the den mother, or a library where you can read about their culture (with maybe both insider and outsider perspectives).

Miss me with an entire novel-chapter length political scene of freeing MY fox wife from the prison THEY put her in only to be summarily shunted aside while the foxes talk to each other before I can have MY fox wife who is designed, fundamentally, to be a fetish-pleaser for preggo folks, literally a self-insert level of "this fox milf is all over your dick and yours only" come along with me as a companion.

tl;dr I don't like the Kitsune(s?) because I think Tobs is trying to inset an entire VN worth of plot and themes into a single sidequest portion of a different person's porn game, and I don't like Tobs because his response to even the slightest criticism is to shit his metaphorical pants and tell people they just don't 'Get it'.

 

[M0nte]

I just fundamentally find it annoying to have to read essay-length scenes about Kitsune culture to get my dick wet in fluffy tails.

You can skip all of it. The only exception I think is Rindo for you to get to those sex scenes. Shrine whores basically indulge in prospect of fucking you before talking to you. Brother, only dialogue that is somewhat required for you to understand what is going on is Kiyokos "I need you to dick me down so that I could escape from this golden cage so that someone could fuck our daughter". Basic request men, basic request.

Why does it always have to be japan in these sort of things?

Weebs are numerous. And thinking of new culture is hard. Using a culture that people have general idea about is allowing the author to skip most of the leg work when it comes to world building. Everyone knows what Japan is and they have basic understanding of how there society works/ has worked. So woala. And there culture is also distinct enough to feel exotic to westerners while also being familiar enough with our values to not be to alienating.

 

[M0nte]

You asked people to give their reasons, I gave mine. You breaking those reasons down and rebutting them is on your decision to defend the game, not me failing to do as you asked.

But you are simply wrong, so I can do that. You do not need to read it to get some tail. Now would it help you understand somethings? Yes, that is how stories go. But even then, a lot of that writing that Tobs put is just there to complete some basic character requirements.

 

[James3]

Umm, shot in the dark... Is there a way to fix the a seaweave item no longer giving immunity from Sunder error with the save editor, or any other way in general? At first I liked the added challenge and reason to use the Seaweave Cape, but now it's getting in the way.

 

[actualrealname]

Weebs are numerous.

They are truly a plague on this earth. Almost as bad as NTR spammers.

 

[redcynic]

If you removed all weebs you'd remove half the internet! Then all that'd be left are the furries and the feet-lovers.

PS:

Tired: Japanese tropes

Wired: Ming China Tropes.

Broke: Kitsune

Woke: Huli Jing

 

[NODOGAN]

tl;dr I don't like the Kitsune(s?) because I think Tobs is trying to inset an entire VN worth of plot and themes into a single sidequest portion of a different person's porn game, and I don't like Tobs because his response to even the slightest criticism is to shit his metaphorical pants and tell people they just don't 'Get it'.

I tend to just skip text-walls of Kitsune and go for the smut honestly, maybe that's why i don't really hate any of them? (except Takahiro that drunk Self-Insert OC can just fuck off) so yeah the whole "Outsideeeeeeerrrrrr!" Tobs Boner? i don't even deal with it, tend to be fucking just Kuroka on the wolds or Kohaku on her shop whom are the most likeable foxes IMO

Now on to another subject: first time ever using a character whose summons are worth shit, any suggestions on what's the best summon? so far only have the Flame Elemental and i know ya get the wolf from the witch on the moving house, but are there others/anything better?

 

[NODOGAN]

So i just did Gweyr's quest (what's made thus far at least) and...did anyone else thought you could beat ALL the demons if you do the distraction route? XD no joke i went there HARD (Quinn & Bimbo Azzy as partners, Playing a Whitemage as the Team's Support with Boltering Dance, Group Healing, Allure, Summon Fire Elemental and Revive) and we just killed enemies till they ran out of letters (Beyond shit like "Cultist Z appears") and were into the gamma/beta symbols and i was like "Aight, clearly they're endless horde, imma head out" i'm just slightly dissapointed is not like the Barfight in the Orc Camp where you can actually beat them all with a decent combo, was hoping to do that.

 

[throbzombie]

So i just did Gweyr's quest (what's made thus far at least) and...did anyone else thought you could beat ALL the demons if you do the distraction route? XD no joke i went there HARD (Quinn & Bimbo Azzy as partners, Playing a Whitemage as the Team's Support with Boltering Dance, Group Healing, Allure, Summon Fire Elemental and Revive) and we just killed enemies till they all were into the gamma/beta ones and i was like "Aight, clearly they're endless horde, imma head out"

How do you get bimbo Azzy as a companion?

 

[Archaon11111]

How do you get bimbo Azzy as a companion?

You don't she gets locked out of companion if you dunk her into the honey.

Regular companion Azzy gets a armour set where she does lust attacks as temporary bimbo.

 

[NODOGAN]

How do you get bimbo Azzy as a companion?

You do her whole quest, purify the hive (you'll get to keep the slightly corrupted gem) then take that gem to the Orc Blacksmith in Hawkethorne, he tells you to take it to the Goblin Seasmtress, she'll make a choker with the gem for like 500 Coins, done, now you can make Azzy a bimbo by switching her gear at will.

 

[destroyerofassholes]

Ignoring the weirdness about their whole xenophobia only being like 100% justified (because you're an outsider who just beat the shit out of all their leaders and then started fucking nobility) or completely ridiculous because you're the chosen of their god, I just wish literally any other culture was used.

Why does it always have to be japan in these sort of things? Even just having the same generic xenophobia in a way less cliche group would make it feel way more interesting, to me at least. Take inspiration from morrowind or something, add something that actually feels alien instead of just "dude what if we added samurai?"

Do have to agree that a porn game is a weird vessel for the topic as a whole though, like they can be as snotty about it as they like, we all know they're gonna be fuckable eventually.

I always wondered why they used Japan but I think I know the answer and you know the answer too.

Tobs is a weaboo. Most poeple who have interest in niche writing porn games like this are weaboos. Weaboos are very common on the dark sides of the net.

You could ask hey dude why not choose like a billion other cultures which are just as interesting and rich, but did they make anime?

No. I didn't think so. It just serves to further prove that the kitsune are just some dude's shallow ass japanophilia hidden behind a thin veil of supposed criticism of their history.

I do like the fox-wife, if not for all the other cringe surrounding her.

 

[LandBeach]

You can skip all of it. The only exception I think is Rindo for you to get to those sex scenes. Shrine whores basically indulge in prospect of fucking you before talking to you. Brother, only dialogue that is somewhat required for you to understand what is going on is Kiyokos "I need you to dick me down so that I could escape from this golden cage so that someone could fuck our daughter". Basic request men, basic request.

I mean, you don't have to read any of the writing in this game and then you would only be left with the sex scenes I guess. Still, what if you want some plot with that porn? I say that because some writing I kinda skip through to get to the "juicy" parts, but with odd writing like TObs I mostly skip ahead because it feels almost out of place and frankly, annoying and a little painful. To give a better critique I'd have to replay the kitsune storyline and I don't know if I want to do that again.

In the end, I'm just asking that the writing not make me feel like I'm in something... annoying? Uncomfortable? Weird? Rude? Something I can't place right now.

 

[JTakiyaa]

In the end, I'm just asking that the writing not make me feel like I'm in something... annoying? Uncomfortable? Weird? Rude? Something I can't place right now.

Is "Cringe" the right word perhaps?

 

[M0nte]

japanophilia

I mean, you don't have to read any of the writing in this game and then you would only be left with the sex scenes I guess. Still, what if you want some plot with that porn? I say that because some writing I kinda skip through to get to the "juicy" parts, but with odd writing like TObs I mostly skip ahead because it feels almost out of place and frankly, annoying and a little painful. To give a better critique I'd have to replay the kitsune storyline and I don't know if I want to do that again.

In the end, I'm just asking that the writing not make me feel like I'm in something... annoying? Uncomfortable? Weird? Rude? Something I can't place right now.

That is not how they worded it. They were speaking in absolutes. You do not need to read it. Most of kitsune writing that is related to there plot is related to Kinu. Which I think is a bigger problem here. Since some players could miss majority of content if, you know, they dared to play without a dick.

Most of the things that is written for rest of them as of now are character and culture related. And of sexual kind. Rindu is only one that really could make you feel uncomfortable since we are dealing with concept of you helping someone to get over there traumatic experience by fucking them. But we did that with Ryn so I feel nothing about it. Now, I am not writing off everything bad about him off. I have major problems with his writing, but I feel that most off it is not really related to his writing of kitsune. A lot of it feels like it belongs in the game. Since a lot of the game is talking about culture, its people then going about fucking them. Tobs is just the one that took it the furthest. And while this is obvious case of japanophilia, I do not see big problem here. The worst thing about it is that it is cliche. But to me it does bring down monotony of seeing creatures and cultures mostly taken from western influence.

 

[Br9000]

I can understand the dislike of the kitsune and it did suck having a good month or two of updates that I straight up ignored. Does it bother anyone else that so many of the races in coc2 are nekomimi last I counted like half the races were mimi of some form.

 

[M0nte]

Does it bother anyone else that so many of the races in coc2 are nekomimi last I counted like half the races were mimi of some form.

>Nekomimi
>Mimi
The what now?

 

[MrCrazy123]

Catgirls, as in 'not really furry but we stuck some ears on her'. Other mimis being, you know, cow girls, or dog girls, or w/e. 95% human +ears and a tail of a random species is most common.

 

[Noone202]

Catgirls, as in 'not really furry but we stuck some ears on her'. Other mimis being, you know, cow girls, or dog girls, or w/e. 95% human +ears and a tail of a random species is most common.

> Not really furry

Game has centaurs, wolfkins, hyenas, minotaurs. I don't know if by furry it means you must walk on four legs and piss with one leg raised but I don't see your point.

 

[throbzombie]

> Not really furry

Game has centaurs, wolfkins, hyenas, minotaurs. I don't know if by furry it means you must walk on four legs and piss with one leg raised but I don't see your point.

He's saying that nekos aren't furry, not that the game isn't furry.