Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.45] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[destroyerofassholes]

If we're doing the armchair psychologist game, I'll cash in.

I think he's just pretentious and thinks less used words makes him sound more intellectual. Simple as that, really.

Honestly it's always funny to see the thread devolve to this when there's no content to talk about. Not that I'm complaining.

 

[actualrealname]

Just the knowledge/though that they have life outside of you makes them feel like there own people. But as I said, optional. Since, well, it does feel bad for a lot of players to feel like they are playing a second wheel.

Yeah exactly, I've got nothing against them getting to be more independent characters, it just feels like a lot of it is chucked in too early, and forgets the PC needs to feel like an independent, impactful character too in these situations. Though I guess this is the most I've ever thought about azzy, so maybe they did something right lol

Shit like the Aerie love triangle in BG2 is fucking great, but it would be less so if she chased after him regardless of your relationship.

He uses overly formal language because he is not a native speaker and his English fluency isn't as good as he believes.

His weird way of writing does make a lot more sense knowing he's ESL, it definitely lacks that kind of laid back way of writing that loads of native speakers develop for informal text. Doesn't really change my opinion of him, but does explain why he talks like a coomer robot sometimes at least. Strange savin hired him on considering that though.

Guess people have low standards after years of renpy games about 18 year olds with abnormally huge dicks and strangely close relationships with their landlords?

 

[Duke Greene]

Honestly it's always funny to see the thread devolve to this when there's no content to talk about. Not that I'm complaining.

Lol yeah. To be honest I haven't played this game in months because updates are so underwhelming lately. I'm waiting for some more meaty content before plunging back in

 

[MogwaiKupo]

Yeah exactly, I've got nothing against them getting to be more independent characters, it just feels like a lot of it is chucked in too early, and forgets the PC needs to feel like an independent, impactful character too in these situations. Though I guess this is the most I've ever thought about azzy, so maybe they did something right lol

Shit like the Aerie love triangle in BG2 is fucking great, but it would be less so if she chased after him regardless of your relationship.


His weird way of writing does make a lot more sense knowing he's ESL, it definitely lacks that kind of laid back way of writing that loads of native speakers develop for informal text. Doesn't really change my opinion of him, but does explain why he talks like a coomer robot sometimes at least. Strange savin hired him on considering that though.

Guess people have low standards after years of renpy games about 18 year olds with abnormally huge dicks and strangely close relationships with their landlords?

I remember the Aerie Love triangle that would be pretty refreshing to see. There's a couple problems with that however. We're huffing paint if we think these writers are anywhere on the level of old bioware. Looking at their track record they couldn't write a likeable rival if they tried. They'd either be "giga alpha-chad" who will gloat and will screw her in front of you the millisecond he wins, or a spineless beta male who probably going to be your bottom afterwards. If you doubt me, Riya from TiTs had a random love triangle.
Second everyone is a raging polyamourous pansexual. In the writer's eye's there no reason that love triangle shouldn't just devolve into a threesome. Orgy because of course Cait and dom-Arona have to join in.

 

[MogwaiKupo]

While I understand your worry, you could probably just impregnate Elf consort yourself and be done with it. Especially if you are their Baron. Since, as Hethia alluded to if you are romancing Ryn, one of the reasons she made you one is to butter you up so that you would end up marrying the half sexed royalty. And even confident Ryn is still submissive to champion, so I do not think she would force go against your wishes.

As for Azzy, I am suprised that they got away with it. I could understand if the guys got a gf/bf and why that would not have gotten so much hate. Since most people are not interested in them (even if people would ask to be able to sex their female love interests). But not only did they make azy have a GF, not only does the game unsubtly nudge you in supporting them. But you can not fuck said GF or even join them in threesomes as of now if ever.

Not something I really care about since game already has many waifus, but still. Congrats on SKoW for doing it. She has guts. But it could be also be that this community is not as obsessive as others are when it comes to whole "only for you thing". I mean, a lot of them still get pissed do not get me wrong, but not really to extent as others from what I observed.

Does she even have any extended scenes with her, I remember one random explore scene, and one random bar scene that establishes that Azzy is the aggressive one in their relationship. Other than that, I can't think of anything. I mean if your gonna be gallsy, don't pull a KissxSis.
Cait may be divisive, but Savin at least makes no compunctions that she's nothing less than a glorified whore. Heck she sleeps with everyone of your companions except Quin and Atugia, sleeps with your Mother-in-law, sleeps with a random civilian, and that's just the few we see. Kinu's female sire thing may have pissed even Fen fans off, but at least Tobs commits to pissing people off and only relents when Savin says no. SKoW wanted to do something similar but wants to be wishy-washy about it.

 

[Ssato243]

will you able to romance and impregnate the baroness

 

[M0nte]

Yes and maybe (yes). But why romance her when you can own her. Babies come out either way.

 

[Sublop]

Yes and maybe (yes). But why romance her when you can own her. Babies come out either way.

Why own her body but not her heart when you can have both? Just git gud.

 

[M0nte]

Why own her body but not her heart when you can have both? Just git gud.

Who gives a shit about slaves feeling in matter of if you are going to use their body or not? She is there to please me, it is not like she did anything more worthwhile in this past couple of hundred years or so.

 

[Ssato243]

can you fuck her now that's my question dammit?

 

[M0nte]

Nah

 

[MogwaiKupo]

Who gives a shit about slaves feeling in matter of if you are going to use their body or not? She is there to please me, it is not like she did anything more worthwhile in this past couple of hundred years or so.

Yes we're all aware of how useless the Baroness is. But let's be honest, would any of us be shocked if that translated to her being a dead fish in bed. If anything, that'd be consistent with her character

 

[stuffinabox]

Where do you get your information? Patreon takes 1%

Game updates on 1-2 week basis usually regularly in 1 week. Next update is soon anyway they even released the character art for npc's there and a map of the place.

Dude has staff and artists/coders to pay plus he pays commissions to writers like B and BubblesLord etc to do projects.

Don't know what else to tell you, guy makes a profit off of this project and not like it started off making 30k a month.

Yeah I know they 'update it regularly', but the fact that there's very little to show for it besides a couple busts, maybe a sex scene or two- projects like these should've been done in a year or two. If patreon takes 1% and he didn't expand the team after the money started rolling in, no wonder why it's stagnating. There always seems to be a point of no return where unless they agree or 'mesh' well with the creator or actively are writing content, the lack of constant, new punchy expansions besides oh yeah new sex scene woo is really underwhelming. Next you're going to tell me that a porn game following in CoC and TiTs footsteps hasn't suffered plodding fatigue. Roadmaps or not, I bet they could get that shit done in half the time with the same writing, coding & picture quality. Double the pay, get it done.

 

[zwere]

projects like these should've been done in a year or two

Double the pay, get it done.

I don't think there are enough people interested in this niche to justify trying to push out a final product. How many copies do you think a completed CoC2 would sell on Steam/itchi.o etc? Chipping away while your few loyal backers are bankrolling you seems to be the way to go, imo.

 

[stuffinabox]

I don't think there are enough people interested in this niche to justify trying to push out a final product. How many copies do you think a completed CoC2 would sell on Steam/itchi.o etc? Chipping away while your few loyal backers are bankrolling you seems to be the way to go, imo.

If people can slap together an RPGM game & tease some 2D CG with a little timing and sound effects between transitions, having them bust out content on an almost every three or four day basis would be nice. This isn't the high calorie dense materiel we're waiting on, it's subsistence updates with minimal bite sized pieces that aren't worth a damn on their own.

 

[actualrealname]

If people can slap together an RPGM game & tease some 2D CG with a little timing and sound effects between transitions, having them bust out content on an almost every three or four day basis would be nice. This isn't the high calorie dense materiel we're waiting on, it's subsistence updates with minimal bite sized pieces that aren't worth a damn on their own.

They could def have more writers, and significantly better management, but I think you're overstating how easy it is to make good text based stuff too. Yeah big VN companies can put out insane amounts of content, but they're also generally career artists and erotica writers, I don't think any of the fen have that sort of experience, or even just the pressure that people in competitive jobs struggle with.

These projects do absolutely drag out ridiculously long (with a few exceptions, once in a lifetime is pretty reasonable, price for freedom is a decently large scale game that does take time to make), but every few days is just not really fair from a team this size.

I think this would be a more reasonable point on the TiTS thread, that's a game that's been on basically fucking life support for ages now.

 

[hater45]

They could def have more writers, and significantly better management, but I think you're overstating how easy it is to make good text based stuff too. Yeah big VN companies can put out insane amounts of content, but they're also generally career artists and erotica writers, I don't think any of the fen have that sort of experience, or even just the pressure that people in competitive jobs struggle with.

These projects do absolutely drag out ridiculously long (with a few exceptions, once in a lifetime is pretty reasonable, price for freedom is a decently large scale game that does take time to make), but every few days is just not really fair from a team this size.

I think this would be a more reasonable point on the TiTS thread, that's a game that's been on basically fucking life support for ages now.

I would agree with your statement but the way the way all of them write is the issue. If they were accounting for PC's personality, choices, stats, etc, then it would make sense why it takes a long time. But from I've been seeing, they just write one choice like a kinetic novel and call it a day. Look at the whole Kitsune situation, Kinu gets a quest to get out of her father's shadow even though you practically had no choice in the matter and Tobs has some hate boner against the PC. Could of spent that time giving us choices on how we affect the Kitsune den because those fuckers think they are hot shit even though I slapped them all the fuck up.

 

[zwere]

Could of spent that time giving us choices on how we affect the Kitsune den because those fuckers think they are hot shit even though I slapped them all the fuck up.

I remember reading on the forums that there might be an option in the future to side with the boreal elves against the kitsune. Don't remember if there was official confirmation or not.

 

[hater45]

I remember reading on the forums that there might be an option in the future to side with the boreal elves against the kitsune. Don't remember if there was official confirmation or not.

I heard about that as well but it is not like I couldn't handle them at all. I have to wait like what? Years before something like this is put in the game?

 

[HexKatars]

Okay, finally it’s time to get some forward momentum going again after all that breeding. This week, we’re opening up the next main story area, and there’s plenty more content for it (and other story-related happenings) coming up shortly!

0.4.0 Patch Notes:

• You can now gain access to the next region of the main story quest — the Undermountain! Whether by invitation as the Champion of Frost or by brute force at any point in the story, you can now get past the Chargers at the gates to Khor’minos and enter the vast subterranean labyrinth between the Foothills and the city of the minotaurs. Do note — you won’t be getting into the city itself just yet!
• New encounter and bad end: the Khor’minoan Chargers! Mess with the bulls, you get the horn(ie)s.
• New encounter: Hobgoblins! What happens when you cross goblins with minos? These brutes! (Written by TheObserver)
• New event: There’s some new imp types down in the depths, and you’re in for a memorable introduction to them — and to the mighty warrior that’s been holding Khor’minos back from the brink of defeat!
• New mechanic: Fog of War! It’s damned dark in the depths of Khor’minos, and even when light can be found, it’s hard to tell which way is which with a demonic invasion underway! If only you could find some source of light to carry with you…
• New Busts by Moira: Calise, Hobgoblins

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