he's consistently disliked whenever threads pop up on /v/ or /vrpg/ as well, it's really just fen forums that seem to like him. Though I'm not sure I've ever actually seen them dislike a writer, or consistently dislike a piece of content.
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Hey, the hobgoblins may be cheating bastards who fight your party of 3 with a party of 8-9 (seriously did Savin give a reason why that 4th slot is reserved for guests/summons, I can only think of a couple FF games that normalized 3 party members) and the imps may have been overturned because the warlock and shank make them hp sponges that like to deal resolve damage.
But we can all laugh at the oversight that since there are only 2 encounters, you have a very high chance of running into Gianna's Caravan. I thought it was funny that these three thought they'd find customers in an ice wasteland but now they now somehow managed get into the undermountains before you did, during a Quarantine.
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I've seen some negative reactions to kitsune stuff /tobs stuff on fen forums. Most recently it was in a thread addressed to players who only play female bodied characters, about how they felt about the Mayternity content (it almost got derailed when someone brought up Kinu, as this thread frequently does
). The only difference is they seem to be nice about their dislike of kiyoko/kinu. Either cuz they're actually nice or to avoid Tobs jumping in to preach about his work being amazing because it's so divisive.I usually try to be nice, I just can't stand that Tobs is consistently allowed to make such one-sided content in what should be a power fantasy text-based porn game. Wouldn't it be better to give the player options? The fact that you need a dick (magical or real) and have to "impregnate" Kiyoko to get her out of the orb and into the game or you completely miss out on probably the companion with the most written scenes (possibly tying with Cait) is bonkers. If Kiyoko didn't have so much content that then breeded (ha) more content via Kinu, I'd be like whatever. But there's a whole section of the game players who don't want to give their chars dicks and be the sexual aggressors, are just locked out of.
Not to mention (as has previously been said in this thread) his consistent writing of the player as an incompetent, bumbling fool. Even his writing that I am able to access just makes me feel unsatisfied. The male kitsune that roams with a group (not Hinata), the birdlike male in the ice zone, and even Keros approach sex with the player in such a detached, I-kind-of-like-this-but-i'm-kind-of-disgusted way that I get no enjoyment out of those sex scenes. I cannot understand who that shit is written for.
And Savin's cool with that. I assume it's because Tobs did a shit ton of writing for free, so you can't really tell the guy much since he could just say "I don't want to write that."
Anyway, genderbent Kiyoko 2022.
I guess. He almost reminds me of Yandere dev with how he is making things out of spite to prove something. With the work he puts in he could easily surpass the other writers but Savin has 0 vision for this so it is all over the place.
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He would just make genderbent Kiyoko an abusive husband just to fuck with the people who would want itI've seen some negative reactions to kitsune stuff /tobs stuff on fen forums. Most recently it was in a thread addressed to players who only play female bodied characters, about how they felt about the Mayternity content (it almost got derailed when someone brought up Kinu, as this thread frequently does
I usually try to be nice, I just can't stand that Tobs is consistently allowed to make such one-sided content in what should be a power fantasy text-based porn game. Wouldn't it be better to give the player options? The fact that you need a dick (magical or real) and have to "impregnate" Kiyoko to get her out of the orb and into the game or you completely miss out on probably the companion with the most written scenes (possibly tying with Cait) is bonkers. If Kiyoko didn't have so much content that then breeded (ha) more content via Kinu, I'd be like whatever. But there's a whole section of the game players who don't want to give their chars dicks and be the sexual aggressors, are just locked out of.
Not to mention (as has previously been said in this thread) his consistent writing of the player as an incompetent, bumbling fool. Even his writing that I am able to access just makes me feel unsatisfied. The male kitsune that roams with a group (not Hinata), the birdlike male in the ice zone, and even Keros approach sex with the player in such a detached, I-kind-of-like-this-but-i'm-kind-of-disgusted way that I get no enjoyment out of those sex scenes. I cannot understand who that shit is written for.
And Savin's cool with that. I assume it's because Tobs did a shit ton of writing for free, so you can't really tell the guy much since he could just say "I don't want to write that."
Anyway, genderbent Kiyoko 2022.
That's the irony of it all, getting a free pass to indulge yourself while denying your readers the same pleasure unless they wholesale buy into your very narrow interests is peak narcissism.
- Oct 16, 2017
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So here's the "NTR" scene with Brienne below the reason I put NTR in quotes because this reads more like a rape scene and my quick skim of the text doesn't show her liking it at all, I don't think it even has her cumming. So I really wouldn't call this NTR I think it even implies that she's traumatized at the end? I don't think it goes that far but I can't find a better word currently, it definitely does not imply at all that she liked it. Though now that I read I wonder if this can get her pregnant probably not, though I'm not going to test it.
I wonder if the other NTR scenes in this game are not really NTR even Caits, shes a religious prostitute, who told you ahead of time she's going to have sex with other people, so is that really NTR? I think the other one was Kiyoko? No clue about that one, I'm not going to be hunting for NTR
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Can you post defeat scene to that mino gate dude? With any of the companions. I want to see what it is.
Also, It would be easier if you posted the screen shot. It is kind of mess to read it all that compressed.
Have you tried Elyon? I think a lot of people like him. Even I liked him, even tho I am not really into non rapy sub stuff.I've seen some negative reactions to kitsune stuff /tobs stuff on fen forums. Most recently it was in a thread addressed to players who only play female bodied characters, about how they felt about the Mayternity content (it almost got derailed when someone brought up Kinu, as this thread frequently does
I usually try to be nice, I just can't stand that Tobs is consistently allowed to make such one-sided content in what should be a power fantasy text-based porn game. Wouldn't it be better to give the player options? The fact that you need a dick (magical or real) and have to "impregnate" Kiyoko to get her out of the orb and into the game or you completely miss out on probably the companion with the most written scenes (possibly tying with Cait) is bonkers. If Kiyoko didn't have so much content that then breeded (ha) more content via Kinu, I'd be like whatever. But there's a whole section of the game players who don't want to give their chars dicks and be the sexual aggressors, are just locked out of.
Not to mention (as has previously been said in this thread) his consistent writing of the player as an incompetent, bumbling fool. Even his writing that I am able to access just makes me feel unsatisfied. The male kitsune that roams with a group (not Hinata), the birdlike male in the ice zone, and even Keros approach sex with the player in such a detached, I-kind-of-like-this-but-i'm-kind-of-disgusted way that I get no enjoyment out of those sex scenes. I cannot understand who that shit is written for.
And Savin's cool with that. I assume it's because Tobs did a shit ton of writing for free, so you can't really tell the guy much since he could just say "I don't want to write that."
Anyway, genderbent Kiyoko 2022.
But when it comes to Kiyoko, besides what you said, the biggest problem is how it feels like she is focused more on the dick than on the champion. Does not help that magic strap on is just a removable dick, so I do not see really like it. I though I could use it to get Kiyoko when playing as female, but it felt to weird.
But yeah, Kiyobro me want. I think I saw some fanart of him.
"And when asked why did he create such an NOC, he simply replied "to offer all the vagina players the feeling of classic japanese housewife mixed with dash of classic japanese shoujo and otome."
I joke I joke, but yeah, I would like if we at least had one decent kitsune husbando. Kazuo, Hitoshi and Nakano (fuck you all he is misunderstood and cute) are all not avalide so we really do not have options. Oh I guess there is Takahiro, but I am 99 percent sure that his quest is just him getting married to that white kitsune. And I am not sure if anyone considers him husbando material to begin with.
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Yeah, here a bit more NTR vibes but it's a bad end what do you expect?
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Suddenly i have realised that this game have got many disgusting qualities. And probably CoC 1 had better text to read, even with the Kitteh6660 revamp mod.
- Jun 12, 2020
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You need Kiyoko freed and Miko to be impregnated then...
Either:
Guess it -
keep pounding Miko until she is ultra pregs and make sure Kiyoko is preg for about a day or two
Estimate -
look in resources\app\resources\bitmaps\fulls at miko preg 3 and 4 pics. if I remember those are the ones where you can select the scene if Kiyoko has been pregs for a couple of days. The latter is still hard to tell especially she's a 9 tails.
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TL : DR
CoC1 has less text, more options, friendlier mod support and better character development (YMMV). While some elements are hardcore, most of the follower / lover content requires some work and is relatively tame.
CoC2 still feels like a cleaner medieval fantasy TiTS and while a good standalone game, most of its content I would describe as e^verbose or exponentially verbose for non-math people. The content is also significantly more hardcore and you really don't have to do much to persuade a companion / guest to bang you.
Look no further than the forums for each and what people talk about. CoC1 from memory is a lot more friendly and creative. CoC2's is fairly polarizing if you don't agree with the devs.
Note: I understand both are still in development, but look at the bigger picture here. CoC1 had much less support and budget with arguably more developed content and story. CoC2's budget is massive with tons of support and we JUST got to 0.4.0
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You are right. This won't develop the same way. For me it was allways clear that CoC 1 had more build-up arousal/tension which i could experience, while the CoC 2 has it much more of the crude experience.
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Truth be told I didn't mind Cait being so open to banging out of the gate, but it did feel a little weird she went from grieving over her sister to DTF in less than a day. Some buildup and arousal / tension like you said would make CoC2's content a lot better, but weeb anime bootleg writing doesn't do that.
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Uhum, it happens very fast in CoC 2. Many scenes are just like that - from fighting - straight to sex. And there is that "spark" missing in that. What i mean is that transition happens fast. Not that the amount of text is too small. It could be even shorter tbh.
Edit: Cait is another example. She is not complicated lady - being protitute. But closing to her is like... that doesn't fit at all. Than at some point in time she's like - "Oh! We need to find my sister - that was that!". Sadly she will not start to make her own expedition and plotting with other npc's - if we decide to dump her in the inn. That also doesn't fit. Because 1000 days can pass and she will be milking Brienne tits in some private room in the inn... ffs... doing completely nothing else.
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Yeah there was one post on the main forums of all of someone's genderbent versions of some of the female npcs but I don't have and didn't want to make a forum account to view the bigger version.
I've ping-ponged back and forth but I will go down on this Nakano ship with you.
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Precisely, I use Cait as an example because people either love or hate her, but yes. A bit too easy.
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People used to hate her because she was a slut, but people stopped caring about that.
Most people now, myself included, hate her because she shoves herself into every goddamn scene in the game. There was a period where every update involves her getting new scenes or shoving herself into old ones.
The fact that she was also the only healer for so long meant unless you were running a healer you had to use her.
People hate kisunes because they are like 30% of the fucking game and hate Cait for the same reason basically
My biggest gripe with Cait is moreso the fact that no matter what the PC simps for her like no simps had ever simped before. Almost every scene with Cait has a written inner thought of you gushing over how amazing she is and it always reads like you're some psycho from Tumblr.