Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.32] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[NODOGAN]

I want to make a character that who thinks they're good but what they're doing is way worse.

"Are you defying my order? Looks like I'll have to purge you too as you are already corrupted...Yes, yes I'll have to do this as I see that there's no other way to save you other than freeing your soul from your corrupted body."

Or my usual character persona, Be kind to them and give them a stockholm syndrome so I can enjoy fucking them w/o worries.

Or maybe something like CoC2 Raphael but a lot worse, I'll be the sterotype "Only humans must remain, other races must die" kind of thing.

Something like those~~~

You sir scream Emperor's Holy Inquisitor and i think that's badass if slightly maniacal, agreed.

 

[Yuriski]

So Kas can't get you pregnant? That's disappointing

 

[Raf-Raf]

You sir scream Emperor's Holy Inquisitor and i think that's badass if slightly maniacal, agreed.

Being insane has its perks, most aren't good.

So Kas can't get you pregnant? That's disappointing

Kas can knock you up though but yeah, for male characters I do my favorite strat I call:
"Shoot the load, hit the road" strat.

And I prefer giving than receiving.

 

[Skandranon]

I am irrationally upset you can't eat the cookies Kas makes you.

 

[Raf-Raf]

Stol- Bought an SSD to make my PC faster and now my saves went poof.

All 6 characters with different playstyles / routes -> poof~~~

PURE PAIN...




I don't know where tf are the save files located so I can't really make a backup, if someone would be so kind to tell me as I am too lazy to google it, the help will be appreciated.

Also, I just realized that there's a skip button now on the puzzles.
There goes a big slap to the face from the poor person who made the puzzles...

 

[M0nte]

I want to make a character that who thinks they're good but what they're doing is way worse.

"Are you defying my order? Looks like I'll have to purge you too as you are already corrupted...Yes, yes I'll have to do this as I see that there's no other way to save you other than freeing your soul from your corrupted body."

Did you meant to say "I want to make a character that everyone thinks is doing things for benefit of all, when In actuality they only using that as a cover up to their real intentions of furthering their own gains"

Yeah, that Is something that I would like to do. My only problem is that it is hard to write around the fact that we are not on this adventure alone. We have companions, mostly good/pure leaning companions, and I do not know how many times champion can just go "this is for everyones good" while mind breaking a person. And them end up trusting us. But then again, they are fine with champion dating Kas, a demon personified, so maybe they are not as pure as they are letting on...

Or my usual character persona, Be kind to them and give them a stockholm syndrome so I can enjoy fucking them w/o worries.

Yeah, good old mind break. That is something that I would like to do with Elf boy when I get the chance. But that would be a quick one. If I ever wanted to write more detailed one, like what Birds is doing with Liulfr, I would save it for my largest project.

Or maybe something like CoC2 Raphael but a lot worse, I'll be the sterotype "Only humans must remain, other races must die" kind of thing.

Yeah, that is leaning to close to real world situations and widely out of the games scope. So I can not really do it. I could, instead, make it so that Dark Knight champion shows, how should I say, show their more racist/sense of superiority side when dealing with people. Like calling all elf sluts, Cat boys faux men and goblins as living and willing fleshlights. Just to see them more dickish.

But what my question was referring to is your day to day conversations. Like for example, when DK falls in love with someone, how would you expect them to act with their lover. Since I do not expect them to lose all the edge when speaking and interacting with them. Since corruption, in a sense, is loosing some part of ability to connect to others and their struggles. So in what way would corrupt champion express their love and in what tone. That is what I am looking for. What people here expect.

For example, the way I am thinking of handeling it most of the time is by making a champion somewhat absent minded when it comes to dealing with their partners feelings and being more direct/straight to the point when expressing what they think. Sometimes to their detriment.
For example lets say you got some girl pregnant. Pure champion would reassure wholeheartedly that everything is going to be fine, you both can deal with it and you have a place where your children can get everything they need. And they are sure to be wonderfull.
While Dark Knight would go: "Woman, relax. [pc.hasKids 1| I did all of this before| |].There is a nursery run by Gwyn,. We can dump them there and be done with them in worst case scenario or you can try to be an excellent mother to my kids. Either way, there is no need for you to go all panicking about". Obviously not this direct, you still want to keep them as your lover, but you get the point.

 

[Raf-Raf]

Did you meant to say "I want to make a character that everyone thinks is doing things for benefit of all, when In actuality they only using that as a cover up to their real intentions of furthering their own gains"

Yeah, that Is something that I would like to do. My only problem is that it is hard to write around the fact that we are not on this adventure alone. We have companions, mostly good/pure leaning companions, and I do not know how many times champion can just go "this is for everyones good" while mind breaking a person. And them end up trusting us. But then again, they are fine with champion dating Kas, a demon personified, so maybe they are not as pure as they are letting on...


Yeah, good old mind break. That is something that I would like to do with Elf boy when I get the chance. But that would be a quick one. If I ever wanted to write more detailed one, like what Birds is doing with Liulfr, I would save it for my largest project.


Yeah, that is leaning to close to real world situations and widely out of the games scope. So I can not really do it. I could, instead, make it so that Dark Knight champion shows, how should I say, show their more racist/sense of superiority side when dealing with people. Like calling all elf sluts, Cat boys faux men and goblins as living and willing fleshlights. Just to see them more dickish.

But what my question was refering to is your day to day conversations. Like for example, when DK falls in love with someone, how would you expect them to act with their lover. Since I do not expect them to lose all the edge when speaking and interacting with them. Since corruption, in a sense, is loosing some part of ability to connect to others and their struggles. So in what way would corrupt champion express their love and in what tone. That is what I am looking for. What people here expect.

The first one can be done simply by beating them to submission (plz let us be evil) and breaking their minds to make sure they think that the only way to live is just following your orders w/o question~~~

But then again, this looks like a linear storyline like the first one sooo I don't think that's possible.

Second one aka the selfish hentai protag. is probably impossible since good stuff / choices WILL make our character a good person.

Third one? That is definitely the most impossible one since just like the first one above, it's a linear story thing...
Hell, I already want to wipe the kitsune village then I can just tell our fox wife that the village doesn't exist anymore because I make a bullshit backstory like they were wiped out or something, how's that for evil?
I literally can't kill anyone when they attacked me first when visiting the village for the first time.

BONUS:
Writing skill :101
"Wery well"

"And *insert character* with a nasty wound?

 

[M0nte]

The first one can be done simply by beating them to submission (plz let us be evil) and breaking their minds to make sure they think that the only way to live is just following your orders w/o question~~~

But then again, this looks like a linear storyline like the first one sooo I don't think that's possible.

Second one aka the selfish hentai protag. is probably impossible since good stuff / choices WILL make our character a good person.

Third one? That is definitely the most impossible one since just like the first one above, it's a linear story thing...
Hell, I already want to wipe the kitsune village then I can just tell our fox wife that the village doesn't exist anymore because I make a bullshit backstory like they were wiped out or something, how's that for evil?
I literally can't kill anyone when they attacked me first when visiting the village for the first time.

BONUS:
Writing skill :101
"Wery well"
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For your first point. Did you know that Liulfr is going to get wonderful corrupt path. Where you mind break them into your own good willing, overgrown guard dog. And I am thinking of something similar. Since that is what I am associating corrupting someone with. Twisting people into your ideal (well champions ideal) image.

But, let me ask you, how would you feel about content that is specifically designed for corrupt champions? Like, almost of it is only accessible if you are willing to do evil acts? There is nothing really there to gain if you are pure.
Since, well, I do find the concept of every evil act requiering a good one is tiering from writing perspective because of extra workload. Vice versa also applies. But I feer that people would find it pointless /boring, since there are no pure scenes to contrast them with. Asking because I noticed that what people ever really want is a corrupt route that is diviation from a pure one. And while I get why, contrast between the two, focusing on just DK one would allow me to just go all out when writing some truly while shit without needing to focus on pure players.

 

[Rickart]

Anyway, questions to corrupt players, how do you picture corrupt champion to act in regular situations and conversations? To what extent are they evil, how do they express it and how would you justify them in doing a good act with no innate reward. Or at least a reward befeting of your time and stature?

Personally I always viewed a corrupt champion as less "evil edge-lord" and more completely self-centered. They act based on what would amuse them/get them off in the moment rather than questions of good/evil. Think normal on the outside but a demon on the inside.

They'll do a good turn because in the moment it's fun to play the hero. It reminds everyone that they're worth following and helps them to influence their party mates and other NPCs. Even if there isn't a direct reward, a creative champion will realize the opportunities it gives to influence/corrupt their companions' attitudes.

Their companions aren't friends/lovers (though the champion will tell them they are), they're objects for the champion's gratification. While the champion might present themselves as just a mischievous trickster, they'll always be corrupting their companions in ways they find kinky or amusing. An example that's already in the game is you tricking Cait into a threesome with Kasyrra. While it's not played that way, it struck me as the most corrupt thing I'd seen. You trick Cait into sleeping with one of her sister's kidnappers, a being she utterly hates, and get her to enjoy every moment of it. That's exactly the kind of thing I could see a corrupt champion doing. You could even build on that to corrupt her, letting her know that Kasyrra is seducing the champion and convincing Cait to do more degrading things or become more focused on the champ to try and "save" them from Kas.

To use Brint for a more hypothetical example: If they turn him into Brienne, a corrupt champion would continue eroding her morality until she's whoring herself out to anyone and everyone, because they find it fun or hot to see someone that trusted them fall so far. Alternatively keep them as Brint, but gradually corrupt everyone's favourite best-guy-friend until he's worse than Arona, focused purely on fucking every man and woman he meets into submission beneath him.

I wouldn't tie it to dominance or submission either. You can be just as corrupt pitching as catching. In Berwyne's case you could dom-corrupt him by breaking him into the champion's personal buttslut. A corrupt sub would feed his ego though, and encourage him to try and live up to his dirty talk. Then they'd drop him the moment he ceased to be amusing, probably at the point where it'd get him spit-roasted by demons until all the arrogance is fucked out of him.

Basically, writing interactions for a corrupt champion is a question of "what is the most amusingly ironic/kinky thing I could push this character into?" Everything else is a matter of timing and scale (you wouldn't jump straight to mind-break in a character's first scene after all).

Of course you don't need to write any of those examples, it's just my personal take on what makes a champion corrupt and how they'd act. I'll leave it up to the thread to decide whether that's more or less terrible than a champ who wants to burn down the kitsune den.

 

[Raf-Raf]

For your first point. Did you know that Liulfr is going to get wonderful corrupt path. Where you mind break them into your own good willing, overgrown guard dog. And I am thinking of something similar. Since that is what I am associating corrupting someone with. Twisting people into your ideal (well champions ideal) image.

So it's pretty much the same as going to corrupted just to get the dedicking dream of Etheryn's? or will it be the one below.

But, let me ask you, how would you feel about content that is specifically designed for corrupt champions? Like, almost of it is only accessible if you are willing to do evil acts? There is nothing really there to gain if you are pure.

So basically I'm locked in a path when I started it? It's a meh, for me.
Not that good / bad.

Honestly, If there's one game that made me try different routes, it's that damn game Undertale.
Got attached to characters so I went for pacifist, played some other games that removed my sanity and I went genocide, lost even more sanity trying to beat the bosses, felt the satisfaction of a villain after finally killing Sans for the Nth time and killed my emotions in the process, if possible, I'd too would like to do it here.

Sure we can mind break anyone and all that jazz but nothing really gives THE IMPACT when killing a character, major ones to be specific, can you imagine when we finally meet her sister only to kill 'er on the spot then that'll break our catgirl and I'll just make a bullshit excuse to give her stockholm syndrome? Or maybe specifically taking out of the companions one by one -> one fun time date later we kill 'em but maybe that's too much for this game.
Watching / Playing School days is the best training to kill emotions~~~

Or maybe a quest for Kas to eliminate everyone just to finally court this damn demon~~~
Hell, if Death is a personified character, I'll fucking court it, forget a demon who can't beat the boss of CoC1 or a fox who thinks about breeding with you forever.

Maybe that's too much, how 'bout good ol' Alabama character?
Damn, my son / daugher's hot, better fuck 'em.

Maybe I just played too much Black Souls...



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Of course you don't need to write any of those examples, it's just my personal take on what makes a champion corrupt and how they'd act. I'll leave it up to the thread to decide whether that's more or less terrible than a champ who wants to burn down the kitsune den.

Oh yeah, I forgot about the bar. the wayfort castle thing, the orc kingdom, the minotaur mountain city too and every other town / anywhere with living things in it.
I don't like picking one side only so I choose everything.
I am a GOOD person after all~~~

I finally figured the damn password for the harem chest, it's S U N L I G H T.
Still trying to figure out the one in the undermountain, I won't press the skip no matter how hard it is to pay respects to the creator of these puzzles.
Motherfuckers literally went on and shit on their work by putting a damn skip button instead of maybe giving better hints???

 

[NODOGAN]

Say, now that you can repeatedly have sex with Kasyrra i might be willing to give romancing her another shot, is there any penalty in-game for actually going with her/fucking her? like idk, losing a companion or something, haven't done it before so curious.

While we're at it is there any way to lower your corruption once it raises above 25? only way i lower corruption tends to be paying Father Sanders.

 

[MogwaiKupo]

Say, now that you can repeatedly have sex with Kasyrra i might be willing to give romancing her another shot, is there any penalty in-game for actually going with her/fucking her? like idk, losing a companion or something, haven't done it before so curious.

While we're at it is there any way to lower your corruption once it raises above 25? only way i lower corruption tends to be paying Father Sanders.

There's not to many repeatable ones that you can spam. The cloister is the best method of removing corruption. As for others, being nice and helping people is a no-brainer (Quintillus, giving coin to the Cat harem), the lake Goddess is a method but she has a 7-day cooldown. And apparently kissing Caits rear lowers corruption.
As for romancing Kas, other than Etheryn , Brienne and Cait worrying nothing currently happens. You also lose out on many dragon daughters and only get stuck with one and a Wraith. Also Kas threatens to dominate Lumia so that might happen.

 

[NODOGAN]

There's not to many repeatable ones that you can spam. The cloister is the best method of removing corruption. As for others, being nice and helping people is a no-brainer (Quintillus, giving coin to the Cat harem), the lake Goddess is a method but she has a 7-day cooldown. And apparently kissing Caits rear lowers corruption.
As for romancing Kas, other than Etheryn , Brienne and Cait worrying nothing currently happens. You also lose out on many dragon daughters and only get stuck with one and a Wraith. Also Kas threatens to dominate Lumia so that might happen.

Huh, funny so...i'm guessing Savin & Co are going more for a "Pure but Romance/Save Kass" kinda player-base? like...honestly i don't do things for corruption (because there's barely any content) but this sounds like is something i could have always done while sticking to the purity route.

 

[Archaon11111]

Say, now that you can repeatedly have sex with Kasyrra i might be willing to give romancing her another shot, is there any penalty in-game for actually going with her/fucking her? like idk, losing a companion or something, haven't done it before so curious.

There are no consequences for the Kas romance so far, but from what I understand is that you cannot sell your soul to any God or that will lock you out of the romance. Like right now anyone who went the Kitsune path cannot romance Kas, same will apply to all the other Gods, fucking her will increase corruption and depending on how you fucked her will raise cum production, increase dick size, bigger lips if you give her a blowjob, make you a squirter for females and sometimes I think rarely give you a horse cock transformation.

 

[MogwaiKupo]

Huh, funny so...i'm guessing Savin & Co are going more for a "Pure but Romance/Save Kass" kinda player-base? like...honestly i don't do things for corruption (because there's barely any content) but this sounds like is something i could have always done while sticking to the purity route.

Yep, you can have a 0 corruption paladin for a character but if you decided he wanted to give it to Kas a couple times you're in her romance path. Maybe a corrupt character will be hedonistic enough to be able betray her, but doing it successfully would be a power-fantasy, and we all know how Savin feels about those.

 

[RenH]

Man, the more I read through this thread, the less inclined I am to reinstall CoC II. The last time I played the game, Gweyr's route was just about done and there wasn't much else to do. Now I'm hearing that freeing Kiyoko is a bad idea (more than usual), there's still no new implementation of the effects of corruption, you can romance the very demon that is fucking up the land and no one really bats an eye. Not even the gods which are established to be very weaksauce at the vast amount of nothing they're doing.

Oh, but there's more nods to the first game because we gotta cater to those folks that actually came from the first game. I don't even like complaining this much but there's something about this game that just irks me, even if I lowkey still like it.

 

[sinfool]

I need help guys, so from the last update where we can " Impregnating Miko " somehow I still can't trigger it to happen at all. I'm reading on the threads some ppl say we need to finish nakano quest but I'm already finish it long ago both quest If I remember, but still there is no sign of the event to be happen or anything. so I managed to change the flags using save editor on the first page and change everything about miko pregnancy flags so it should be like the images below. by far it work little bit fine, with some error at beginning but somehow I managed to fix value of the flags. but I still doubt the change that I made was a right value and later not giving any error (because somehow I feels little bit error like this girl not gonna giving any birth and gonna stuck on the pregnant state, and the pregnancy state took way too long rather than brienne) so can someone show me the screenshot or images of the flags where you purely get the event of miko impregnated (not changing it using save edit like me) so I can compare it with your pure flags and mine, thanks!

 

[Quintilus]

New location in "teleportarium"...
How enter to it?

 

[EmptyHusk97]

I need help guys, so from the last update where we can " Impregnating Miko " somehow I still can't trigger it to happen at all. I'm reading on the threads some ppl say we need to finish nakano quest but I'm already finish it long ago both quest If I remember, but still there is no sign of the event to be happen or anything. so I managed to change the flags using save editor on the first page and change everything about miko pregnancy flags so it should be like the images below. by far it work little bit fine, with some error at beginning but somehow I managed to fix value of the flags. but I still doubt the change that I made was a right value and later not giving any error (because somehow I feels little bit error like this girl not gonna giving any birth and gonna stuck on the pregnant state, and the pregnancy state took way too long rather than brienne) so can someone show me the screenshot or images of the flags where you purely get the event of miko impregnated (not changing it using save edit like me) so I can compare it with your pure flags and mine, thanks! View attachment 1366981

you need to hear keros offert.
Looking the flag:
Miko_pre_req should be the only thing you need to start the chain event (1 is correrct).
Miko_pre_ann you skip the komari event so she needs to be already pregnant (1 is correct).
The timer the value is very high, you should try 80000

 

[Quintilus]

there's still no new implementation of the effects of corruption

What you expect? Sudden grow of tentacles and/or mutations, whispering of an eldritch en"titties" at the back of the mind, thrill of spilling blood/other bodyli fluids, etc.

you can romance the very demon that is fucking up the land and no one really bats an eye

Eh? Fucks =/= romance. Otherwise my hands would be pretty romanced by this point of time.

Not even the gods which are established to be very weaksauce at the vast amount of nothing they're doing.

"Hey, whats going on on mortals plane? Lets check this out!!!
*observes CoC2*
"Thats enough of mortals plane for today..."