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Oh I do hate both of 'em with the latter being the most hated one (damn you Cucklord!!!), I already told you why and that should've explained that I hated both demmet, Details of Cair's character are irrelevant? Nah, Do I need to repeat myself on the "spotlight and written way too special" yada yada part? This cat will be likeable if she doesn't force herself into most if every situation that should've been the player's business in the first place.

I can give a whole paragraph of reasons if you want to.
If you wrote a detailed explanation of anything, I never got to see it. You can thank our [GLORIOUS MOD OVERLORDS] for that.

But again I feel you've missed my point. Compare: you see a bad soap opera on TV, with one particularly bad character who's ludicrously Mary Sue and is shoehorned into most of what happens. Reaction? Probably apathy, boredom, maybe mild irritation. Channel changed, move on, show forgotten and deleted from memory. This is not your reaction to Cait. Something has made it personal, emotional.
 

Raf-Raf

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If you wrote a detailed explanation of anything, I never got to see it. You can thank our [GLORIOUS MOD OVERLORDS] for that.

But again I feel you've missed my point. Compare: you see a bad soap opera on TV, with one particularly bad character who's ludicrously Mary Sue and is shoehorned into most of what happens. Reaction? Probably apathy, boredom, maybe mild irritation. Channel changed, move on, show forgotten and deleted from memory. This is not your reaction to Cait. Something has made it personal, emotional.
Oh I always write that way, semi-serious as they call it for the best part just to avoid the o' so mighty gaze of the mods yet it still failed.
Dunno about emotional unless it's "THAT" incident (Bartender, another fucking barrel), for the other characters and part of the story? Not so much.

Let's see the most obvious ones, I'd have to be mad enough to remember every reason though:

This cat is written to make sure you will and must take her because she's the only damn healer in the game, Etheryn barely does anything with her heals.
Takes over the spotlight too much that it's a lot better for her to be the main character and I would be more than glad for that because WE as the MC is a joke.
Why does she have to be involved with everything? I took this Cat to help her find her sis, not to be my future wife although her writer really wants us to go for THAT route.
Most of the time that we're doing something she either judges you for it or go like "Bruh, I would've done better".
I can literally fuck anyone how I want and they won't complain but Cait? Oh that ass is a special place, no-no for you but on everyone else? It's free real estate.
You can't even abandon this damn cat at the beginning of the game, The moment you do, It's a damn BAD ENDING / Game over for us.
 
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Quintilus

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IIRC first time you propose her to bang she says something like "Im a whored slut/slutted whore by design that didnt want to get married, cause whore-slut things, are you okay with that?". Or at least that was that way last time I started new game.
 

Konstantinus

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At this point I'm picking whatever ending leaves the world destroyed, because it's the only way to put a stop from the OCs annoying everyone for eternity which a much worse fate than death.
Then I think you will really like the Kas ending from what I understood. Because there the whole world will get corrupted but as a thank you for her soul she will make sure everyone of your (dick)girls will get the treatment where they will lasciviously love you and only you.
 

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IIRC first time you propose her to bang she says something like "Im a whored slut/slutted whore by design that didnt want to get married, cause whore-slut things, are you okay with that?". Or at least that was that way last time I started new game.
Except the didn't want to get married part and constant love bombing courtesy of Savin.
 

Avakao

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I dunno, at least how I played. I didn't feel cucked. I was together with Cait because I didn't have to worry about the feeling of cheating on my partners. Like, if I was with Brienne that after two dialogues she's basically wanting to marry my PC, and I was like. wow, hold there girl, we're just on Act 1. I don't want that.
I'd say the same for Kiyoko, but Kitsune content sucks, and the fact that is gated behind Dicked characters and pregnancy BS fetish made me never even want to interact with them after the first time.

I feel like, some characters move too fast to, one night to incredible attached the next day, then I don't like it. I think Cait and Brint are there for players who don't want anything serious or the feeling of cheating on others while still at the beginning of the game.

I mean, in my case I play as a pure female character, boring, I know, but I like it. I never played the super sluty character either. But like. The first time you talk with Cait, she'll tell you, "Look, just because we're fucking it doesn't mean I'll stop fucking others, blah, blah, shit religion excuses, etc." And I am ok with that. She warned me ffs. Would be worst like in Brint's case, where I learned that the dude is really into you from the beginning, but is around town also fucking everyone. Heck, he even tells his mother she might have a bunch of new grandsons in Hawkethorne already by the time we reach her.

I don't know how exactly other ppl play. But in all honesty, I never once got a scene where I was forced to watch Cait do something that or I wasn't around or couldn't hold her back. Even the dude Pavo from a quest that she asks if you want her to suck his dick in your place IF you don't want it to get some items, I can just say. No. Then I beat the shit out of the dude to get the items I needed.

Cait's only issue, in my opinion, is that, on one hand, she is super sweet and if pursued in a more romantic way is starting to show deep feelings for the champion, heck, the girl even sneaks up to sleep with my champion when I go to sleep alone now. This is kinda sweet tbh. But again, the way she's written to be JUST a slut is annoying. I know her story is meant to show some growth to her when we reach Tychris. But until then, there's nothing really to show that she's growing as a character after we get her father back. Even the temple, if built doesn't change her character at all, except that she now lives and works there as a full-time whore when not with you. Which again is warned in the game that doing it will attach her more to her religion and the marches, etc. Another thing we can avoid by not building said place. Because her religion is shit, no matter how I look at it.

I just wish some writers stopped using her sluttiness as an excuse to attempt in making me feel bad for not wanting to fuck their characters. Yes, B and Bubblelord I'm looking at you both.

This is what I think, don't need to hate me for having this opinion, ok? I get why ppl hate her, I'm just saying why I personally don't hate her.
 

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May-ternity. Miko, Arona and Elthara pregnancy came out together the same month (May)
The only 2 characters that deserve being pregged are just Miko (Is hillarious) and Elthara (Which is natural for that elf slut)
Arona will die childless and desiring to be mother while her ovaries wither and the McDonut refuses because she wanted to have a D and you'll never allow her to impreg any female of your slave pens, neither her be pregged.
 

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The only 2 characters that deserve being pregged are just Miko (Is hillarious) and Elthara (Which is natural for that elf slut)
Arona will die childless and desiring to be mother while her ovaries wither and the McDonut refuses because she wanted to have a D and you'll never allow her to impreg any female of your slave pens, neither her be pregged.
Will Miko after being impregnated still walk around with Mai to fuck Takahiro daily? And why is Arona that bad if knocked up? Which Arona I'm really interested in, she's starting to grow on me. I can't get her impregnated, but still, I'm curious about the content I'm missing.
 
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Raf-Raf

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This is what I think, don't need to hate me for having this opinion, ok? I get why ppl hate her, I'm just saying why I personally don't hate her.
I don't think anyone would hate you for having a detailed and a way way wayyy better explanation than some people 'ere.

The way they write 'er is really making me mad, like you said, on one hand they're going to make you feel like she will pretty much be a YOU-only thing in the future and on the other hand, religion shenanigans, must fuck everyone else 'coz religion.

They're giving us the must protect, must shield the true waifu from the others then goes full 180 and goes She's everyone else's property. That's why I think I'll enjoy the Omnibus first until they finished the damn cat's content.

I'll take any other shit content that Cait gets than be reminded of....
GODDAMMIT, BARTENDER!!! ANOTHER FUCKING BARREL!!!
 

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Will Miko after being impregnated still walk around with Mai to fuck Takahashi daily? And why is Arona that bad if knocked up? Which Arona I'm really interested in, she's starting to grow on me. I can't get her impregnated, but still, I'm curious about the content I'm missing.
Arona made sure that se will be always on top and she wants to dom you, so in my case McDonut is a warrior that has too much better equipment than her as well that I hate that kind of bitches (I have marked S-traits) and that bitch is going to recieve neither of she wants.

About Cait you nailed almost all the nails except that you missed that every interaction you make she barges in (even with evergreen) and it annoys anyone who is immersed in the plot. Also making her OBLIGATORY TO DO EVEN FOR THE MOST WORTHLESS SHIT is really tiring, If she could know her place as a secondary I could assure that she could be more amenable and likable.
 
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I dunno, at least how I played. I didn't feel cucked. I was together with Cait because I didn't have to worry about the feeling of cheating on my partners. Like, if I was with Brienne that after two dialogues she's basically wanting to marry my PC, and I was like. wow, hold there girl, we're just on Act 1. I don't want that.
I'd say the same for Kiyoko, but Kitsune content sucks, and the fact that is gated behind Dicked characters and pregnancy BS fetish made me never even want to interact with them after the first time.

I feel like, some characters move too fast to, one night to incredible attached the next day, then I don't like it. I think Cait and Brint are there for players who don't want anything serious or the feeling of cheating on others while still at the beginning of the game.

I mean, in my case I play as a pure female character, boring, I know, but I like it. I never played the super sluty character either. But like. The first time you talk with Cait, she'll tell you, "Look, just because we're fucking it doesn't mean I'll stop fucking others, blah, blah, shit religion excuses, etc." And I am ok with that. She warned me ffs. Would be worst like in Brint's case, where I learned that the dude is really into you from the beginning, but is around town also fucking everyone. Heck, he even tells his mother she might have a bunch of new grandsons in Hawkethorne already by the time we reach her.

I don't know how exactly other ppl play. But in all honesty, I never once got a scene where I was forced to watch Cait do something that or I wasn't around or couldn't hold her back. Even the dude Pavo from a quest that she asks if you want her to suck his dick in your place IF you don't want it to get some items, I can just say. No. Then I beat the shit out of the dude to get the items I needed.

Cait's only issue, in my opinion, is that, on one hand, she is super sweet and if pursued in a more romantic way is starting to show deep feelings for the champion, heck, the girl even sneaks up to sleep with my champion when I go to sleep alone now. This is kinda sweet tbh. But again, the way she's written to be JUST a slut is annoying. I know her story is meant to show some growth to her when we reach Tychris. But until then, there's nothing really to show that she's growing as a character after we get her father back. Even the temple, if built doesn't change her character at all, except that she now lives and works there as a full-time whore when not with you. Which again is warned in the game that doing it will attach her more to her religion and the marches, etc. Another thing we can avoid by not building said place. Because her religion is shit, no matter how I look at it.

I just wish some writers stopped using her sluttiness as an excuse to attempt in making me feel bad for not wanting to fuck their characters. Yes, B and Bubblelord I'm looking at you both.

This is what I think, don't need to hate me for having this opinion, ok? I get why ppl hate her, I'm just saying why I personally don't hate her.
A lot of the Cait hate around here is a bit extreme, I agree, or at the very least misguided. She's a slut character because Savin really loves stuff like that.

And a whole lot of the people here want a power fantasy where every girl is sucking their dick alone, and I totally get that since goddamnit I want a fantasy harem too, but Cait just ain't for people like me or those who rant about that.

The real issue I think, where the hate is justified, is that Cait is a complete and utter writer's pet.

You can make the choice to not really take any of the other companions, other than Etheryn I think. You're stuck with Cait. She inserts herself into every goddamn situation. You marry with the horse girl, she inserts herself there. You talk to Brienne, she just randomly appears and butts into the conversation. Game is full of shit like this.

The game does make an effort to warn you about her, and you can make the choice to not have a relationship with her at all but that doesn't change that Cait is still forced into your story, whether you like her or not.

Hell, when Savin made masturbation a thing, he was pissed that people weren't just fucking Cait instead. The sheer audacity of even asking for an option to masturbate!


Also also, you'll find that literally all of the companions in this game love Cait. All of their companion dialogues praise the shit out of her. Nobody ever has a problem with Cait. Nuh-uh.

She is the only character in the game where you can thank her father for making her a thing. How is that for favoritism?

At the end of the day Cait isn't as big of a problem as people make her to be. You can MOSTLY ignore her.

However stuff like Kasyrria's event being tied to her stupid temple is utterly ridiculous.
 
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