TheVegnar

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About dam time, someone got a mod to fix all the bs from savin. I will honestly say, I didn't think it was every going to happen. Now we just have to wait for it to get content, and the Champions of Dick will be a possible Corruption of Champions in the future.
 

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Offtopic but, does anyone know how to edit flags? I missed that note in Abyss Depths, tried to add it manually but it still wont show up in codex. Any ideas?
 

Say_10

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I looked it up on the Wiki and that's as far as the quest goes for now.

And a little rant about that quest, because I didn't even know what it was until I looked it up, of course some of Kas's best content is locked behind fucking Cait quests. Seems like Savin wants to spite the people who just like to dump Cait and never interact with her again by putting content locked behind her quests.
I mean that quest still at the begining stage after I found those entries, but thanks for your response. All can do is wait for future updates, hoping that one of them will contain Kas/main story content.
 

Warphorror

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Savin loves Brint and used to love Brienne because of her art. But he hates that to get Brienne you have to put Brint into an armor and be willfully neglectful of what's happening to him while the armor overwrites his entire personality from a carefree dudebro into someone utterly obsessed with and devoted to a single person, in this case the champ. Brienne is the personification of that Spongebob meme where Patrick says that all he does in his free time is wait for Spongebob to get back. He agrees that it would have been much better for Brienne to be an option when first meeting the mino in the Old Forest and have her be like Lyric where gender is the only variable with the same personality barring the obvious differences in mentality between minotaurs and cowgirls but that ship has long since sailed.

The morality of Brint's transformation is still a common point of contention in the discord channel and it's not just Savin being mad butthurt about it. Just because you absolutely love something does not mean that other's reasons for not liking it are invalid because you deem them too simple for complex thought.
While Brint appear to be a "carefree dudebro" if you're a female or herm champ and get impregnated he quickly reveal himself attentionned and kinda romantic, talking of retiring after the Kassyra problem with the champ as a lovely dotable spouse. Even the blowjob scene hinted to that. So Brienne being all over the champion isn't too far from what Brint was since once the mc got impregnated he planned to settle with her.
Also the transformation is well handled with Brienne being angry and confused and the mc need to face her. The option of a meta choice like Lyrics while giving the player a "choice" remove once again a choice for your character, the player change the universe but the mc do nothing it's removing agency for your character and from my point of view a bad design decision. Here be it by negligeance, curiosity or corruption the mc caused the transformation. For fuck sake it's corruption of champion, enough option is given to the player to bail out from the tf so it's not an accident if you get Brienne.
If they want a less "corrupt" way to get her, add an option during the armor transformation to talk with Brint how he feel about his feminine side, explore it and then embrace it, would be easier with male chamion since then they can have a family together.
 
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Raf-Raf

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That seems like the classic manipulation strat.

For corrupting them:
What I'd want as a bad good person that I am is probably me going to do everything I can to make sure they fall harder and harder to the point where they start becoming obsessed with us and seeing anyone else as their rivals in their way of love.
Yandere / Psychos never get boring to watch, just the fact that they'd do ANYTHING to ensure their plan works has always been interesting for me.

Do everything I can to make sure they feel loved except they'd never get to do it, make 'em feel as close as I can w/o really giving them the thing they really want.
Kind of like the carrot and a stick, they'll never reach the carrot at the end unless I want them to then hang out with the others and show it to them so they feel like they're lacking something and that should turn it to an obsession that'll go from a simple one to an insane and twisted one.
It's PERFECT!!!
 
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Savin loves Brint and used to love Brienne because of her art. But he hates that to get Brienne you have to put Brint into an armor and be willfully neglectful of what's happening to him while the armor overwrites his entire personality from a carefree dudebro into someone utterly obsessed with and devoted to a single person, in this case the champ. Brienne is the personification of that Spongebob meme where Patrick says that all he does in his free time is wait for Spongebob to get back. He agrees that it would have been much better for Brienne to be an option when first meeting the mino in the Old Forest and have her be like Lyric where gender is the only variable with the same personality barring the obvious differences in mentality between minotaurs and cowgirls but that ship has long since sailed.

The morality of Brint's transformation is still a common point of contention in the discord channel and it's not just Savin being mad butthurt about it. Just because you absolutely love something does not mean that other's reasons for not liking it are invalid because you deem them too simple for complex thought.
Dunno. While i do agree that Brint's 'turn' in itself does take some pretty meta neglectfulness, i wouldn't say his personality shift was wholly ingrained in the armor, or that indeed doesn't make sense.

I mean, guess it comes down to opinions, but considering mino societal values and how much Brint embodied them with his whole carefree stud persona, i don't think it's that out there that his female self would conform to her new 'role' pretty quick. Not like either of them are the most complex of characters.

Plus, really, while it once again comes down to interpretations, always made sense to me that Brienne's praise kink actually stemmed from a degradation kink, from having gone from 'alpha male' to 'good cow'. Which i think fits pretty well with how Brint was (read, his kinkiness) and makes for a pretty neat (read, hot) tie between the two.
 
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Konstantinus

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About Corruption there is one thing I wonder. If Wsan can really pull it off and we get mamonolike Demonbrienne, what about her mom and sister? Will they accept her like this? Would they even want to be part of three-/foursomes with her like this? Or do we need to corrupt her family for this too and invite them to wayford?
 
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M0nte

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I always though the reason for why Brienne becomes so submissive was because of the armor. Like, it is all fine and dandy if you want to argue that Brint and Brienne represent two side of the same societies coin, but at the end of the day, the quick 180 is as jarring as it is effective in getting people to like Brienne. Because, really, would most people be receptive to her if she was anywhere near the amount of a ho like her male counterpart?

In all likelihood, Wsan figured out that a waifu character would get him more clout than someone like Cait (which is what Brint is when it comes to champion/NPC relation) so he just wrote that. Not calling out the guy or anything, smart from his side. I just prefer it when genderbend is equal when it comes to personality and content like Lyric, Liulfr or future Berwyn epansion.

Personally, I would like if Brint was less of a ho. Not to the etent of Brienne or anything (tho having a big tittied bara dude obsessed with you has its charms) but, you know, just less. To Berwyn level.
 
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Savin loves Brint and used to love Brienne because of her art. But he hates that to get Brienne you have to put Brint into an armor and be willfully neglectful of what's happening to him while the armor overwrites his entire personality from a carefree dudebro into someone utterly obsessed with and devoted to a single person, in this case the champ. Brienne is the personification of that Spongebob meme where Patrick says that all he does in his free time is wait for Spongebob to get back. He agrees that it would have been much better for Brienne to be an option when first meeting the mino in the Old Forest and have her be like Lyric where gender is the only variable with the same personality barring the obvious differences in mentality between minotaurs and cowgirls but that ship has long since sailed.

The morality of Brint's transformation is still a common point of contention in the discord channel and it's not just Savin being mad butthurt about it. Just because you absolutely love something does not mean that other's reasons for not liking it are invalid because you deem them too simple for complex thought.
It is what it is, people should get over it. It's a choice, with plenty of warning, for a reason. If you don't like Brienne, just keep Brint. And if you don't like Brint, it's easy to just head down and get the armor and get Brienne. Wsan wrote his character the way he wanted, and we can like it or not, but at the end of the day it's his character.
 

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Personally, I would like if Brint was less of a ho. Not to the etent of Brienne or anything (tho having a big tittied bara dude obsessed with you has its charms) but, you know, just less. To Berwyn level.
If I'm waiting for Wsan to add that kind of content in the city of minotaurs like a date when brint formalizes the relationship with the champion or a continuation of the christmas event where brint gives you a ring and says he will give it to you. . something better when they get to khorminus. Of course I'm not saying that he only has sex with the champion, but it's something like that he began to reduce his sexual relations with others a little or that he began to use contraceptives if he has any relationship other than with the champion.

Another thing I'm also looking forward to is the more masculine version of Berwyn, although I guess that will never happen.
 

Konstantinus

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Another thing I'm also looking forward to is the more masculine version of Berwyn, although I guess that will never happen.
I guess so too as there is talk to give him the same treatment option as Brint.

is there a place to buy wood, stone, and metal instead of trying to grind for them
Ambra sometimes and during the quest of upgrading the wayfort, from Svern, Hatsumomo and the Minoguards in the Foothillst.
 
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M0nte

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Another thing I'm also looking forward to is the more masculine version of Berwyn, although I guess that will never happen.
Unfortunately, that aint happening. B already decided that that is not something he is going to tackle because he already wrote over 80 000 words of Berwyn contnent, already has to tackle over 11 parsers/variations when it comes to tekst and is not something that the general audience would want. So feminization is all he is getting.

If I'm waiting for Wsan to add that kind of content in the city of minotaurs like a date when brint formalizes the relationship with the champion or a continuation of the christmas event where brint gives you a ring and says he will give it to you. . something better when they get to khorminus. Of course I'm not saying that he only has sex with the champion, but it's something like that he began to reduce his sexual relations with others a little or that he began to use contraceptives if he has any relationship other than with the champion.
This on other hand is sligtlt more so. Still, it is something I am guessing Wsan has no interest in also. Since apperently the whole appeal of Brint is that he fucks around. Not saying it can not happen but I highly doubt it.
 

Daekas

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A question can be accusatory you absolute dullard.
Not if it is as obviously ironic and even stated as such, you illiterate troll.
I may be responsible for a lot of shit going down - But i ain't responsible for you two not being able to read properly.
 

Daekas

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This on other hand is sligtlt more so. Still, it is something I am guessing Wsan has no interest in also. Since apperently the whole appeal of Brint is that he fucks around. Not saying it can not happen but I highly doubt it.
I guess so, brint was designed as shagger.
 

Daekas

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Dunno. While i do agree that Brint's 'turn' in itself does take some pretty meta neglectfulness, i wouldn't say his personality shift was wholly ingrained in the armor, or that indeed doesn't make sense.

I mean, guess it comes down to opinions, but considering mino societal values and how much Brint embodied them with his whole carefree stud persona, i don't think it's that out there that his female self would conform to her new 'role' pretty quick. Not like either of them are the most complex of characters.

Plus, really, while it once again comes down to interpretations, always made sense to me that Brienne's praise kink actually stemmed from a degradation kink, from having gone from 'alpha male' to 'good cow'. Which i think fits pretty well with how Brint was (read, his kinkiness) and makes for a pretty neat (read, hot) tie between the two.
Makes sense, i always thought the armor was some kind of "to the opposite" thing.
Male - Female
Alpha - Trophy Slut
Dom - Sub
Bro - ..FemaleBro? Is there a word for that? .. No, i'm not looking for 'sister' -

It literally is brint just genderbent and lusting after the same things .. Only the opposite of things, i guess.
 
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