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I have to ask a rather weird question, but how much of hate towards Tobs is caused by serious issues with his writing for a type of game he writes for and how much of it is caused by a fact that you cannot bang your own daughter and people are mad about it?
 
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I legit have no idea how Kitsune content is allowed in the game because it feels like it doesn't even remotely belong in it.
I 100% agree with everything you're saying, and you've got some good ideas there. But I want to focus on this right here. I actively avoided all Kitsune content before even knowing how bad it got because of how out of place it felt. They're just kind of... there. Like it legitimately feels like they're a different game grafted onto CoC2. And it's staggering because there's so many Kitsune. Like there's only one named goblin, and she isn't even sexable. They outnumber everyone but dog-morphs and bull/cow-morphs, but they're all localized in one area. At least in Khor'minos there's a variety of races so it isn't "Oh, another bullguy/gal." And even with them, they all look unique in some way. The Kitsune are just so samey. Guess that's what makes them cultured though
 
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I have to ask a rather weird question, but how much of hate towards Tobs is caused by serious issues with his writing for a type of game he writes for and how much of it is caused by a fact that you cannot bang your own daughter and people are mad about it?
I couldn't care less about incest content with Kinu if everything else was worth it
But its not, Tobs writing has many issues that has been stated over 100 times on this forum. Just go back and read some of the rants. I'm sure most of the people wanting incest content just want to spite Tobs (he also lost his mind when people bring up incest and called them groomers) because most of the kitsune content makes your character act like an idiot and your own family treats you like an outsider. They don't even tell you about your own daughter getting married, you have to find out on your own.
 

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I have to ask a rather weird question, but how much of hate towards Tobs is caused by serious issues with his writing for a type of game he writes for and how much of it is caused by a fact that you cannot bang your own daughter and people are mad about it?
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I don't need a chapter on how this woman looks. I can fill in the gaps just give me an overview.

Let's compare that to Brint, a whole companion. Someone that you should have a pretty good understanding of how they look. If you were to deep dive on someone's description it'd be someone you knew very well, right? No, because like I said you just need an overview.

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I can't speak for everyone, but for me TOBS is just verbose. Even Kasyrra the main antagonist has a shorter description than a forgettable character in a forgettable location. Like I said a page or two back, he tries to be smart and witty and then fails at it. Referencing 1850s politics between the United States and Japan isn't witty, it just doesn't fit in a gd porn game. It's also just dumb because the United States never got sent back to the Bronze Age. I didn't want to bang Kinu, I felt like she was my responsibility. TOBS takes that responsibility from you, and then chastises you for being a bad father figure. I like being a good parent in games that allow me to, shit I regularly send pics to the laquine on Zheng-Shi of our children since she can't see them herself. Forcing me to be a bad parent isn't content, it's the lack thereof. If you want a route to show what happens to bad parents, then give me a route that lets me be a good parent. If you're so desperate to keep people from shagging their daughter, set up an option on the good dad route to "Make a Move" with a warning that it might not go so well. Then, if you pick the option you get moved to bad dad route.
 

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I have to ask a rather weird question, but how much of hate towards Tobs is caused by serious issues with his writing for a type of game he writes for and how much of it is caused by a fact that you cannot bang your own daughter and people are mad about it?
About equally? 50/50 since most people can't stand his writing, especially the kitsune content past the astral realm arc, and the fact you can't knock up your daughter even though he's written incest content before. Really though, according to me and alot of other people, it's written that way on purpose as to better spite people to fuel whatever he gets off from watching people complain. I understand most people in real life don't have a interest in having sex with their family but in a porn game? Incest is pretty much up there in popularity with futa and other similar tier stuff so for it to not be in this porn game is strange, considering it caters to a semi decent amount of fetishes.
 

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About equally? 50/50 since most people can't stand his writing, especially the kitsune content past the astral realm arc, and the fact you can't knock up your daughter even though he's written incest content before. Really though, according to me and alot of other people, it's written that way on purpose as to better spite people to fuel whatever he gets off from watching people complain. I understand most people in real life don't have a interest in having sex with their family but in a porn game? Incest is pretty much up there in popularity with futa and other similar tier stuff so for it to not be in this porn game is strange, considering it caters to a semi decent amount of fetishes.
They have their perfect excuse which they call:
"Muh' Patreon rules, no incest."
 

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I have to ask a rather weird question, but how much of hate towards Tobs is caused by serious issues with his writing for a type of game he writes for and how much of it is caused by a fact that you cannot bang your own daughter and people are mad about it?
While I have issues with Kinu its not due to that. Its rather how awful her character becomes after she leaves the amulet. Most of the kitsu content is awful in their hideout. Also that I get dragged into weird voyeur scenes whenever I go to the kitsu den if she's out of the amulet.

Not a fan of incest. The den content is just a giant kick in the face considering everything you do for kinu and kiyoko, and they're written to be totally cool with it.
 

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They have their perfect excuse which they call:
"Muh' Patreon rules, no incest."
Pretty sure if they could get around that If they really wanted to but the dev's love their money more than writing quality content unless it involves some sort of NTR or adding more numbers to the dick girl army lol Still waiting on a good bust for kass instead of that horrendous, ugly fuck off dragon, demonette like thing with a horse cock >_>.......and you expect me to romance.....that thing? Maybe If her bust was similar to the steam banner, I might consider dooming the world for that lol
 

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Pretty sure if they could get around that If they really wanted to but the dev's love their money more than writing quality content unless it involves some sort of NTR or adding more numbers to the dick girl army lol Still waiting on a good bust for kass instead of that horrendous, ugly fuck off dragon, demonette like thing with a horse cock >_>.......and you expect me to romance.....that thing? Maybe If her bust was similar to the steam banner, I might consider dooming the world for that lol
I'm on a neutral stance on herms but this game is starting to make me hate it.

I've already said something like this before so I'll say it again with a bit of edits:

"I can try making a prude character with a holy crusade of correcting the damn herms genders and that will be a more interesting and unique storyline than this piece of shit game has."
 

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Pretty sure if they could get around that If they really wanted to but the dev's love their money more than writing quality content
Surely if all they cared about was dosh they'd be interested in including as many of the big fetishes as possible? Pretty sure it's because TiTs got hit with takedown threats over the frostwyrm incest content years back so they don't even want to chance it.
 
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Pretty sure if they could get around that If they really wanted to but the dev's love their money more than writing quality content unless it involves some sort of NTR or adding more numbers to the dick girl army lol Still waiting on a good bust for kass instead of that horrendous, ugly fuck off dragon, demonette like thing with a horse cock >_>.......and you expect me to romance.....that thing? Maybe If her bust was similar to the steam banner, I might consider dooming the world for that lol
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You know, my wife's name is in your mouth right now.
 

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I have to ask a rather weird question, but how much of hate towards Tobs is caused by serious issues with his writing for a type of game he writes for and how much of it is caused by a fact that you cannot bang your own daughter and people are mad about it?
About 30% his writing and 70% his attitude towards and attacks on the players with 0% because I can't bang that one character in a game full of ones I can.
 

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About 30% his writing and 70% his attitude towards and attacks on the players with 0% because I can't bang that one character in a game full of ones I can.
In my case, I don't really mind the writing 'coz I just skip. :KEK:
But him dictating the way our MC acts and should act? That's a no-go.
 

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I have to ask a rather weird question, but how much of hate towards Tobs is caused by serious issues with his writing for a type of game he writes for and how much of it is caused by a fact that you cannot bang your own daughter and people are mad about it?
Not really a weird question. It's a pretty common question actually, usually asked by people who have either never read Tobs content or who like it. I don't know which side of the fence you fall on and considering a bunch of us were just talking about Tobs writing with only like 1-2 (?) people mentioning the kinu fuck mod in progress, this question seems a little baity but I'll bite.

I usually play female MCs and do not like giving them dicks. That includes magic dicks or strap-ons. So my MC is locked out of Kiyoko content and thus Kinu content - my thoughts on no kinu incest doesn't matter because kiyoko/kinu are not for dickless MCs. But I have read his other content, Garret, Gweyr quest, the party of kitsune who roam the frostwood, Convocation of Mirrors, Elyon, the lady Evergreen quest that leads into meeting the kitsune, the avanai rider in the Glacial Rift, Imad in Mallach's temple, etc. And I still don't like his writing. I don't like how he writes dialogue as part of the narration, I don't like how he seems averse to player choice in his content, I don't like how he forces the PC to act how he wants in order to make whatever point he's trying to make in his content, I don't like his pretentious responses to criticism on the forums, and I think he has no idea how to write male npc on female pc sex scenes because all of his scenes of that type have been unsexy to me.

I DO like his action/adventure bits, I think he does those well and he actually gives us various choices on how to approach situations and writes meaningful dialogue for the various companions during said scenes. But overall, if I see his name on upcoming content I know I probably won't be in for a good time. I still read it because like with the small parts of his stuff I do like, sometimes he surprises me, but he is nowhere near my favorite writer on the team. And that has nothing to do with not being able to lewd the daughter.
 

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I'm on a neutral stance on herms but this game is starting to make me hate it.

I've already said something like this before so I'll say it again with a bit of edits:

"I can try making a prude character with a holy crusade of correcting the damn herms genders and that will be a more interesting and unique storyline than this piece of shit game has."
Despite how much I bitch about them, I don't outright hate them. Under normal circumstances, I tolerate them as long as they vary but it bothers me how EVERY single futa has a horse sized erected dick. I guess you could argue the opposite but I don't even like huge breasts on women or massive slongs on men. I'm cool with Dirt Diggler sized cocks but not some horse size abomination that will destroy you lol

Surely if all they cared about was dosh they'd be interested in including as many of the big fetishes as possible? Pretty sure it's because TiTs got hit with takedown threats over the frostwyrm incest content years back so they don't even want to chance it.
I'm sure they could use another platform If they really wanted.

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You know, my wife's name is in your mouth right now.
So much for my mouth being clean huh lol
 
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Surely if all they cared about was dosh they'd be interested in including as many of the big fetishes as possible? Pretty sure it's because TiTs got hit with takedown threats over the frostwyrm incest content years back so they don't even want to chance it.
According to Sav and a couple of others, it's not just that - it's about Fenoxo feeling uncomfortable with it ever since he had his kid.

With the addition of Patreon being touchy about it, it probably just didn't seem worth it for the tiny amount of parental incest stuff that existed.
 

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According to Sav and a couple of others, it's not just that - it's about Fenoxo feeling uncomfortable with it ever since he had his kid.

With the addition of Patreon being touchy about it, it probably just didn't seem worth it for the tiny amount of parental incest stuff that existed.
LMAO I don't remember where the quote is from, but I once heard someone say that "People who have an incest fetish clearly don't have siblings/children," so I find it kind of funny that Fenoxo having a child made him 100% renounce any content of that sort.
 
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LMAO I don't remember where the quote is from, but I once heard someone say that "People who have an incest fetish clearly don't have siblings/children," so I find it kind of funny that Fenoxo having a child made him 100% renounce any content of that sort.
Honestly kind of weird it would make him so against it because like, as somebody with siblings and a family and as someone who also finds incest hot, the fetish is completely separated from my actual family members, because the idea of fucking actual family members is gross. Kinda makes me think maybe the dude has some weird things going on in his head if he's suddenly so against that kinda thing JUST because he's had a kid...
 
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