Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.32] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Wrynn13]

Essentially, this. You could solo adventure because it's meant to be played solo. Sure, progression is slower than in CoC2 because of it but it also meant that the power progression felt more natural and organic. You grind levels not because you need to for some arbitrary reason but because it gives you the best chance at surviving the next area. Enemies that used to curbstomp you eventually become nothing more than XP fodder. It caters well to the power fantasy element.

Also the feats system was loads better than this ability card stuff, really wish they had kept that.

 

[Kallisto]

Other than that, you could keep the TFs as is since there will be players that choose to play as whatever TF they wish regardless of metagamed stats. Not everyone is a min-maxer, and I believe Savin & Co forgot about that.

That sort of dynamism in the TFs is what I find to be sorely lacking in CoC2 and it is quite the shame too.

I agree. Whenever people bring up "we can't have tf combat bonuses because people will min/max" I get so confused. Who cares? Those who feel the need to turn their char into a chimeric abomination because it makes fights easier, will just find other ways to min/max if they can't do it through tfs. And those who were drawn to the game partly because they could tf into something they like, will choose the tfs attractive to them regardless of which has a better bonus. I think as long as the tf bonuses are spread out evenly (as in most tfs have some kind of bonus), it doesn't matter.

If someone told me changing my PC's nose to an elephant trunk would give me a one-hit kill move, I still would never take it because the tf is not something I would want on my character under any circumstances. As long as the fights can be beaten on normal mode without the perfect combo of tfs, that should be balance enough.

It just feels more like a way to lessen the work load, than any actual good reason for denying tf combat bonuses.

 

[Kroenen12]

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I'm not saying i'm a fickle fuck who just needed some Arona for mayternity to be saved, but i'm not denying it either

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(thanks 4chan anon)

 

[NaturalEnclave]

TFs in CoC did not just affect combat, but also the porn aspect as well. Some increased fertility/virility, some made lust increase faster, etc. There are also characters that have preferences and will refuse to have sex with you if your 'equipment' doesn't match them. Some might not like futas at all, some only like massive cocks, some only want small ones, etc.

That sort of dynamism in the TFs is what I find to be sorely lacking in CoC2 and it is quite the shame too.

Hmm, interesting. Cause personally I am not sure how much I would like if something like this was present in CoC2. Depending on how strict some of those TF requirements are, it seems to me like it could make it rather annoying to manage your items and other properties if you want to read X or Y scene. But I suppose it was fine in CoC and people generally enjoyed it and it wasn't too much of an issue? I guess it's also a question of balance. I assume it was just a small minority of characters that had those preferences.

I agree. Whenever people bring up "we can't have tf combat bonuses because people will min/max" I get so confused. Who cares? Those who feel the need to turn their char into a chimeric abomination because it makes fights easier, will just find other ways to min/max if they can't do it through tfs.

I guess Savin and his team did overestimate the amount of people min/maxing their characters with TFs when generally most of the players would actually take even penalties to combat if it meant getting the character look...uhh... description best suited for them.

 

[Magi17]

If someone wants to edit money or exp for characters, you can cheat by downloading your save file and editing with Notepad++. You will get the message that the save file is corrupted but it still seems to work.

 

[WaterH20]

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0.4.47 Patch Notes:

• Zo can now be knocked up. She’ll approach you about it if you have a virile cock ~4 days after giving you the silver mask, and at least 4 days since you first fucked her. You can get a crib and hang out with her and the kid. (
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• You can get Zo a better house (does not require knocking her up).
• Arona has a bevy of additional content supporting her pregnancy and relationship.
• Arona also has a new event with her in the Khor’minos bath house that expands on her relationship a bit.
• New bust: Klemaia. (Given how this bust turned out and her elf fetishism, I’m starting to think she and Hashat might be related!)

 

[Noone202]

Mega

0.4.47 Patch Notes:

• Zo can now be knocked up. She’ll approach you about it if you have a virile cock ~4 days after giving you the silver mask, and at least 4 days since you first fucked her. You can get a crib and hang out with her and the kid. (
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• You can get Zo a better house (does not require knocking her up).

.... who's Zo?

 

[Wrynn13]

Hmm, interesting. Cause personally I am not sure how much I would like if something like this was present in CoC2. Depending on how strict some of those TF requirements are, it seems to me like it could make it rather annoying to manage your items and other properties if you want to read X or Y scene. But I suppose it was fine in CoC and people generally enjoyed it and it wasn't too much of an issue? I guess it's also a question of balance. I assume it was just a small minority of characters that had those preferences.

COC1 had a mode you could enable to lessen or remove NPC standards, though it's been so long I can't remember if that was standard or added in the most excellent revamp mod.

 

[NODOGAN]

.... who's Zo?

Vulpine Monk in the valley next to the Pupper's farm? you save her and she teaches you martial arts (a bunch of spells you may or may not want depending on your build, also you can fuck her.)

 

[Noone202]

Vulpine Monk in the valley next to the Pupper's farm? you save her and she teaches you martial arts (a bunch of spells you may or may not want depending on your build, also you can fuck her.)

Huh.
Well if she's a pure female guess I'll check it out

 

[NODOGAN]

Huh.
Well if she's a pure female guess I'll check it out

She is (at least the pure route one where you save her from a centaur pack is pure female, idk what happens if you let them gang-rape her, all i know is the corrupted Zo still teaches you martial arts later on) also you can train with her multiple times a day, you need to do the same training about 2-3 times before you learn a new skill tho so keep that in mind, once you learn enough skills from her she'll be DTF.

 

[Dreakazoid]

She is (at least the pure route one where you save her from a centaur pack is pure female, idk what happens if you let them gang-rape her, all i know is the corrupted Zo still teaches you martial arts later on) also you can train with her multiple times a day, you need to do the same training about 2-3 times before you learn a new skill tho so keep that in mind, once you learn enough skills from her she'll be DTF.

She's a pure female either way but if you don't save her the only interaction you'll ever have with her is one repeatable sex scene

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[Quintilus]

corrupted Zo still teaches you martial arts later on

No???? In my corrupted save she able to only suck dick. And this haappens even after around 180 ingame days from her initial corruption. I need to fuck her more often, not once in a eternity?

 

[VespidV]

It seemed really suspect to me when... literally all of the content in this area was written by the same guy, and how... unsexy? it all was. The dude just goes on and on and his porn scenes are SO boring, and once I got to like the third character who was explaining how complicated their culture is, and how I could NEVER grasp how awesome they are even once their god turned me into one of them (gigantic mistake), I understood how far up his own ass the writer must be. Who does this content appeal to? People who play their porn games for the political intrigue of boring japanese foxes?

Honestly I've always gotten the vibe it was initially done as like a dig towards the more obnoxious "I'd be fully accepted in Japan because I watch anime"-style weeaboos by having the overtly Japanese characters be really xenophobic towards you especially with Nakano outright doing the "no matter what you do you'll never really be one of us" thing to you when you first talk to him.

Also I feel like airing some of my own grievances with the Kitsune stuff, like I really really fucking hate that their xenophobia and hierarchical structure is constantly portrayed as an inherent part of them as a species and not a cultural thing. It's just really fucked up when you think about it and actually justifies the way people in universe view the Kitsune because you'd never be able to trust them to not try to take over other cultures and it also perpetuates orientalist shit about Asian people being inherently collectivist and submissive to authority. And it kinda sucks because with the personality the default Kinu has(btw I can't be the only one who feels like everything post orb regarding Kinu is made with this personality in mind right?) could've actually had a lot of potential to actually address the xenophobia stuff, if she was made to not be xenophobic like the other Kitsune.

Like they could've had her and Kiyoko genuinely treat you as part of their community and never doing the "you aren't one of us and could also never understand us" bullshit to avoid actually dealing with stuff people might not agree with and having them talk about you as though they consider you part of their community. For example the festival events could be portrayed as Kiyoko genuinely wanting you to experience her culture rather than the way it currently is where it's implied she's doing it out of obligation. And all the events could've centered around dealing with the xenophobia with Kinu viewing you as part of their culture with no catches. But with Kiyoko it could've been that she has a "they're one of the good ones thing" mindset towards you with the conflict that led to their falling out being that during her childhood Kinu just refused to ever view her culture as superior to others and the resolution being her getting Kiyoko to start adopting the mindset Kinu has.

And also a big problem with The Observers stuff aside from being overly verbose is just that they really fucking suck at maintaining characterization and making changes in characterization believable also the constant lampshading of stuff like how they didn't bother to allow you to interact with your other named Kitsune children doesn't help either. Like there's obvious stuff like how Kiyoko acts like a slightly different person after being freed but there's also stuff like the PC being portrayed as decently perceptive and amazing at recognizing patterns(being able to learn things really easily just by seeing someone else do it) and yet they just go "oh I guess I was wrong then" when you confront Kohaku over her paper-thin catgirl disguise.

 

[Skandranon]

The Kohaku thing is clearly a joke, though.

How funny of a joke it is is up for debate...

 

[Kuritzkale]

Am I the only person who finds all of "interact with your child" stuff super out of place? Who is it even for? Are people playing CoC2 for the "uwu wholesome" interactions with your kids? First with Kinu (we all know how that ended up going) and now with the kid you have with Aileh, do people really care? Who is pushing for this shit in a PORN GAME? Maybe this is just my cold, unfeeling heart, but the writing in this game isn't anywhere near good enough to get me to care about the fictional child my character made with a giant demon/dragon girl.

Glad to know the writers are spending time making really out of place wholesome family-sim content inside their degenerate furry power fantasy horsecock futa filled porn game, definitely not super weird (and kind of creepy)! My corrupt, nearly a demon dark knight character would definitely stick around and care about all of the children they make, for sure! Corruption content isn't nearly non existent in corruption of champions 2 or anything, surely!

 

[Raf-Raf]

Am I the only person who finds all of "interact with your child" stuff super out of place? Who is it even for? Are people playing CoC2 for the "uwu wholesome" interactions with your kids? First with Kinu (we all know how that ended up going) and now with the kid you have with Aileh, do people really care? Who is pushing for this shit in a PORN GAME? Maybe this is just my cold, unfeeling heart, but the writing in this game isn't anywhere near good enough to get me to care about the fictional child my character made with a giant demon/dragon girl.

Glad to know the writers are spending time making really out of place wholesome family-sim content inside their degenerate furry power fantasy horsecock futa filled porn game, definitely not super weird (and kind of creepy)! My corrupt, nearly a demon dark knight character would definitely stick around and care about all of the children they make, for sure! Corruption content isn't nearly non existent in corruption of champions 2 or anything, surely!

Wholesome stuff is good but we all know the true stuff we want.
The HOLESOME stuff, oh sweet hoooooo-

 

[M0nte]

Are people playing CoC2 for the "uwu wholesome" interactions with your kids?

Yes.

 

[muschi26]

Playing for wholesome family content? What is this degeneracy? Let me guess, you're into hand-holding as well?

 

[Boardguy]

The Kohaku thing is clearly a joke, though.

How funny of a joke it is is up for debate...

It does not work as a joke considering we know she is a trader, we know kitsune aren't exactly liked and the disguise only works if you have never met her. SHe has no reason to hide it from us either.

Honestly I've always gotten the vibe it was initially done as like a dig towards the more obnoxious "I'd be fully accepted in Japan because I watch anime"-style weeaboos by having the overtly Japanese characters be really xenophobic towards you especially with Nakano outright doing the "no matter what you do you'll never really be one of us" thing to you when you first talk to him.

That doesn't really work cause the champ has shown a willingness to learn and a willingness to help the kitsune and return Kiyoko to them. It would be one thing for Nakano to be like that at the start but as you help the den there should be the possibility of him warming up to you, you can still be an outsider but he knows treats you as a friend or comrade. Their are many edgy side characters throughout anime and media but they are typically allowed to have character growth with the MC if you are meant to give a shit at least. The majority of Kitsune being shits in a foreign land is a really bad idea, a "barbarian (you no metallurgy using yokai)" and his/her posse beat the shit out of several of your fighters, what do you think would happen if they were serious on driving you out?