Kuritzkale

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Fair enough. Isn't really a good criticism of the game either way, although "DO WHAT I WANT" is really the main thing here for me. The game would be so much better if it just focused on making content that I like and only content that I like, what about that do the devs not understand???
 
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Raf-Raf

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Fair enough. Isn't really a good criticism of the game either way, although "DO WHAT I WANT" is really the main thing here for me. The game would be so much better if it just focused on making content that I like and only content that I like, what about that do the devs not understand???
You seem to forget that this game is a salt mine in the first place.
If you request too much BASIC stuff like that, the devs might die of brain overwork.
Have pity on the poor sweatshop workers of this dev team.
 

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Honestly I've always gotten the vibe it was initially done as like a dig towards the more obnoxious "I'd be fully accepted in Japan because I watch anime"-style weeaboos by having the overtly Japanese characters be really xenophobic towards you especially with Nakano outright doing the "no matter what you do you'll never really be one of us" thing to you when you first talk to him.

Also I feel like airing some of my own grievances with the Kitsune stuff, like I really really fucking hate that their xenophobia and hierarchical structure is constantly portrayed as an inherent part of them as a species and not a cultural thing. It's just really fucked up when you think about it and actually justifies the way people in universe view the Kitsune because you'd never be able to trust them to not try to take over other cultures and it also perpetuates orientalist shit about Asian people being inherently collectivist and submissive to authority. And it kinda sucks because with the personality the default Kinu has(btw I can't be the only one who feels like everything post orb regarding Kinu is made with this personality in mind right?) could've actually had a lot of potential to actually address the xenophobia stuff, if she was made to not be xenophobic like the other Kitsune.

Like they could've had her and Kiyoko genuinely treat you as part of their community and never doing the "you aren't one of us and could also never understand us" bullshit to avoid actually dealing with stuff people might not agree with and having them talk about you as though they consider you part of their community. For example the festival events could be portrayed as Kiyoko genuinely wanting you to experience her culture rather than the way it currently is where it's implied she's doing it out of obligation. And all the events could've centered around dealing with the xenophobia with Kinu viewing you as part of their culture with no catches. But with Kiyoko it could've been that she has a "they're one of the good ones thing" mindset towards you with the conflict that led to their falling out being that during her childhood Kinu just refused to ever view her culture as superior to others and the resolution being her getting Kiyoko to start adopting the mindset Kinu has.

And also a big problem with The Observers stuff aside from being overly verbose is just that they really fucking suck at maintaining characterization and making changes in characterization believable also the constant lampshading of stuff like how they didn't bother to allow you to interact with your other named Kitsune children doesn't help either. Like there's obvious stuff like how Kiyoko acts like a slightly different person after being freed but there's also stuff like the PC being portrayed as decently perceptive and amazing at recognizing patterns(being able to learn things really easily just by seeing someone else do it) and yet they just go "oh I guess I was wrong then" when you confront Kohaku over her paper-thin catgirl disguise.
It's called shit, spiteful writing. I wouldn't expect it to change any time soon either from the Salt Mine lol

Am I the only person who finds all of "interact with your child" stuff super out of place? Who is it even for? Are people playing CoC2 for the "uwu wholesome" interactions with your kids? First with Kinu (we all know how that ended up going) and now with the kid you have with Aileh, do people really care? Who is pushing for this shit in a PORN GAME? Maybe this is just my cold, unfeeling heart, but the writing in this game isn't anywhere near good enough to get me to care about the fictional child my character made with a giant demon/dragon girl.

Glad to know the writers are spending time making really out of place wholesome family-sim content inside their degenerate furry power fantasy horsecock futa filled porn game, definitely not super weird (and kind of creepy)! My corrupt, nearly a demon dark knight character would definitely stick around and care about all of the children they make, for sure! Corruption content isn't nearly non existent in corruption of champions 2 or anything, surely!
This is probably the only reason why I even bother reading this VN anymore so yes, I do enjoy the wholesome content when litters of salt aren't being poured in at the same time lol

Wholesome content in a 'PORN GAME'
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IN THE NAME OF THE EMPEROR!!!! What is this degeneracy ?????
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Good game although it needs more content.
Anyone who tortures and/or abuses that child needs to be found and shot -_-
 

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Who is it even for? Are people playing CoC2 for the "uwu wholesome" interactions with your kids? First with Kinu (we all know how that ended up going) and now with the kid you have with Aileh, do people really care? Who is pushing for this shit in a PORN GAME?
Dude that shit is my jam. I'm the kind of preg fetishist that wants the whole package from conception to child rearing with my waifus. That wholesome shit just enhances the lewd that it came from. Yeah they fucked up Kinu but that's on Tobs, not the concept itself. She was good pre-release.
 

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Am I the only person who finds all of "interact with your child" stuff super out of place? Who is it even for? Are people playing CoC2 for the "uwu wholesome" interactions with your kids?
Yep.

In fact it's one of the most requested things/complaints that come up again and again. People love interacting with their fantasy kids and were really upset at the declaration that kids wouldn't be unique or able to interact with.

Heck, "wholesome" scenes in porn games aren't new, it been a thing since forever.
 
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Skandranon

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It does not work as a joke considering we know she is a trader, we know kitsune aren't exactly liked and the disguise only works if you have never met her. SHe has no reason to hide it from us either.
Not a joke for the character, a joke for the player.

Like any cartoon character putting on a mustache and noone recognizing them.
 
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It's called shit, spiteful writing. I wouldn't expect it to change any time soon either from the Salt Mine lol
On that note, if any of ya'll think that it'll change I got bad news, almost any sex game that's been in production for more than 4-5 years is garbage being milked by a greedy dev. Breeding season, Malice and the machine, cloud meadow, bioasshard, pure onyx, hounds of the blade/meteor...shall I continue? It's a depressing fact.
 

Kuritzkale

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Yep.

In fact it's one of the most requested things/complaints that come up again and again. People love interacting with their fantasy kids and were really upset at the declaration that kids wouldn't be unique or able to interact with.

Heck, "wholesome" scenes in porn games aren't new, it been a thing since forever.
Honestly seems really weird to me, but I have noticed that people tend to talk about and think about this game as if it's... an RPG that just happens to have a ton of sex in it? I guess I just don't feel the same, for me it's solely a porn game and that's the only content I really care about. The characters don't really matter to me past what kind of sex content they offer, but it seems to me like people really enjoy (or well, WANT to enjoy) the characterization and writing and not just the porn. Not saying my opinion is the right one, just that some people see it in a different way.
 
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Am I the only person who finds all of "interact with your child" stuff super out of place? Who is it even for? Are people playing CoC2 for the "uwu wholesome" interactions with your kids? First with Kinu (we all know how that ended up going) and now with the kid you have with Aileh, do people really care? Who is pushing for this shit in a PORN GAME? Maybe this is just my cold, unfeeling heart, but the writing in this game isn't anywhere near good enough to get me to care about the fictional child my character made with a giant demon/dragon girl.

Glad to know the writers are spending time making really out of place wholesome family-sim content inside their degenerate furry power fantasy horsecock futa filled porn game, definitely not super weird (and kind of creepy)! My corrupt, nearly a demon dark knight character would definitely stick around and care about all of the children they make, for sure! Corruption content isn't nearly non existent in corruption of champions 2 or anything, surely!
I am with you on this one.I love preg content and I am fine with children content being a one off or something that acknowledges that you have certain number of children but beyond that I don't want the game to turn into a parent simulator when I am here mostly for the coom. Not that I dislike that if handled correctly and maybe leads to some reward like potential wincest.
 
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Sure, but it's probably not comfortable for the girl,
My friend, most of women's fashion is designed around two simple principals: it has to be as impractical and/or as painful to bear on ones skin as humanly allowed. Brienne here is just getting in touch with her feminine side. And bless her soul for it.
 
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