Bloep

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Gnolls look and quack like a duck for scene purposes.
Hornets have what the game refers to as ovi-cocks, not ovipositors. Ovipositors are treated as bug cocks in this game.
Drider situation is same as the hornets
Fair enough to everything else, my bad. I should've read your post more carefully.
But i still take issue with these.
An asshole doesn't qualify as a pussy just because you call it "boy pussy" or something like that.
Just because they have an appendage to penetrate you with doesn't mean they count as futa. That's like saying any male you can fuck in the ass is a futa now.
They are only called ovi-cocks in sex scenes for smuts sake. In the codex they are refered to as ovipositors.
Just because something can get penetrated and penetrate you, doesn't mean its futa. A guy doesn't become a futa just because you can fuck his dickhole, get me? You can also fuck an ovipositor with your dick, so i don't buy that it's just there to be a stand in dick.

On the subject of the PC getting dicked in bad ends/defeat scenes so often, sadly it seems that the writers are of the opnion that penetrating=dominant and getting penetrated=submissive, so yeah there is a bit of an imbalance there.
 

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Dude, imagine the guy coming back home to find his wife, daughter, and genderbent-son sucking off their new husband. So fucked up.

Bring it :BootyTime:
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Degeneracy levels are already going through the roof. And the goal is to go even further beyond. I love it.
 

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I don't personally think they're producing a "little content" per month is the issue here.

Just in May they put out:

3 bath NPCs (Yonzan and Noire and Klemaia)
Expansion for Livrea
Scenes for Arona+orcs, Infrith, and Marefolk Shaman
Large new expansion for Aileh, complete with kid


That's not counting the last patch which was technically part of Mayternity and came out June 2nd.

That's upwards of two hours of stuff, if you're actually doing and reading all the content. Aileh alone I know took me upwards of 30 minutes to go through. I can't think of many games here that put out even a half hour a month. Summertime Saga, one of the biggest games on here, probably puts out that amount of playtime every 4 or 5 months.

From everything I've played COC2 is easily one of the most productive games on this website in sheer quantity, if not the most.





Major? Dunno.

Apparently, Savin just made Wsan write an Evelyn scene, so that should be soon. After that Wsan is going into a big project that isn't Brint's family, sooo...I'm guessing either the arena or the slums? Just a guess though.

Savin isn't done writing Ryns quest, so thats far out still.

Berwyn's quest, actually is the really big thing I've seen that should be soon. It started being coded like a month ago, SO I would think theoretically it should be this month, and has major changes for the doggie.
No I wasn't being fair during mayternity but it was fairly barren leading up to that and since you aren't a fan of pregnancy content you are handling the lack of content for yourself well. As for them being the most productive I will agree to disagree on that point they aren't the worst for sure however for their money they could be better. Unyielding creator always meets their deadlines and they don't even make 1/50th of what Savin's team makes if you take all forms of monetization into account. I will admit if they made far less I wouldn't be making this an issue.

Sounds good I like variance with my kinks/fetishes so I am down for my Evelyn content. I know people are bummed about the lack of Brinhaus content but I am curious about the arena so I can wait. Unshackled Ryn I have waited years for so I can only hope it was worth the wait. I am a bit skeptical regarding surrogacy though I will see how it plays out.

Nice looking forward to the conclusion of Berwyn's quest I am curious what conclusions can be reached at the end of it. Either way thanks for the updates much appreciated.
 

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All I want is either my Kinu incest content or the ability to bitch slap her into oblivion and bring her back down to reality as well as the ability to make Elthara my priestess, move her to my wayfort and have her function as my wayfort's chapel priestess and advisor but no, those things are never happening >_>
 
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I am curious as to what would even be an appropriate amount of content put out by CoC2 Team. Like, the amount of updates per month and the amount of content they bring. How much hours should one get by paying 5$ a month? And what would even "a good update" should bring. Like, let's say an update includes an expansion for one of the characters that add about two-three hours of content into the game. Well, great... if you like that character, which many people might not.
And then let's actually add a choice to this character expansion that changes a lot in their content and... well, now this update is only about an hour and a half for you because unless you are savescumming to get different content you ain't getting all of the new features.

Like, I am not denying CoC2 has a lot of room for improvement. I don't get why unlikable by many players character gets an update that doesn't even change them and their flaws or utilize them for some specific fetish. I don't like how some of the writers do stuff. I don't like some of the core features of the game that are impossible to solve this late into development.
But at the same time - I feel like CoC2 will send bad vibes no matter what it does. Choices cut down the amount of content for many player as now it's split between routes. New Sex scenes for some characters? Well, many players won't care for them cause they don't like those characters. I heavily dislike pregnancy which makes me completely unexcited for Mayternity for example and that an entire month worth of content that I'd rather actively avoid. Can CoC2 team even do stuff without causing groups of players to be angry? Without working themselves to death by making 10 hours of different content every few weeks?
I've been thinking about it and honestly it doesn't really matter
No amount of complaining or being upset is really gonna change the game. So I've decided to just watch the game and expect nothing from it. The devs cannot please everyone or make the prefect game because that's impossible. For example I don't like Futa content yet pregnancy is my main fetish. Everyone has different tastes which makes people react to content in different ways. Some people will be satisfied yet some will always be disappointed. So for now just on the ride to see how it ends.
 

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Next quest be like:

Give the cursed armor to Brint / Brienne's dad and genderbend him too.
... I mean, I would not say noo. Whole family oyakodon sounds fun.
But I would also be kind of disappointed in myself for saying yes for that would be just be kicking male lovers down.
"Oy, we just introduced Brints dad that you get to shag."
"YE--"
"You can turn him into a girl!"
"..."
"..."
"Can we fuck his male form?"
"Only if someone writes it."
I would probably have mixed emotions on the whole thing.
Still, we probably aint meting him unless it turns out that the Mino King is Briennes dad or something.
 
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MSGTNP

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I've been thinking about it and honestly it doesn't really matter
No amount of complaining or being upset is really gonna change the game. So I've decided to just watch the game and expect nothing from it. The devs cannot please everyone or make the prefect game because that's impossible. For example I don't like Futa content yet pregnancy is my main fetish. Everyone has different tastes which makes people react to content in different ways. Some people will be satisfied yet some will always be disappointed. So for now just on the ride to see how it ends.
Well from experience and knowing a crap ton of hobbyist writers who enjoyed writing in their free time, I'd give a estimate of...

1$=1K(one thousand words) of decent/ok content
or
2$=1K of content of good content

Most competent writers can write one thousand worth of words in about an hour for something average or about two for something more refined. Of course that isn't everyone obviously, it's just what I've noticed as a writer & DM.
 

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Just because they have an appendage to penetrate you with doesn't mean they count as futa. That's like saying any male you can fuck in the ass is a futa now.
If they were normal ovi's I'd probably agree with you, but the game treats them functionally like a cock instead. As in they are used for sex, they derive pleasure from it, and cum and ejaculate from it. Not simply laying eggs as an ovipositor does.

On the subject of the PC getting dicked in bad ends/defeat scenes so often, sadly it seems that the writers are of the opnion that penetrating=dominant and getting penetrated=submissive, so yeah there is a bit of an imbalance there.
Definitely agree there. I'm not opposed to futa, but it feels like they all fall into the same trap of futa character only wants to use dick. They have multiple things to work with there, and most of their scenes are simply written as if it was just a guy instead. Come on, be a little more creative. They have double the ways to get off, let them.

Though I think their bigger focus should be on adding more content for male/futa npcs, because like I mentioned earlier, they have so little compared to the female ones. Combat is surprisingly close between the three. I mainly made the list to showcase why people feel like there are more futas than there actually are. Its mainly because you run into combat scenes a lot, and in combat the scenes with dicks outweigh the ones without.
 
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I've seen 1000 words a day tossed as an averagefor professional writers.

I may not be a pro but seriously? A entire day just for 1,000 words? 0_o

I suppose so if you were writing something super in depth or graphical but that's not usually the case for a entire piece of content. That said, I don't have a super ton of experience writing erotic content but even so, that's crazy lol
I think it really just depends on the individual honestly. I'm still blown away that I knew someone back in the day who could write like 10K worth of semi good content in a few hours where it took me 3+ hours to write like 2.5K worth of decent content. It is important to work at your own pace without burning yourself out. Nothing worse than trying to work and your just too tired or/and uninspired cause of burnout. Trying to get things done before a deadline, especially If it something that doesn't interest you, can be a royal pain in the ass.
 

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I may not be a pro but seriously? A entire day just for 1,000 words? 0_o

I suppose so if you were writing something super in depth or graphical but that's not usually the case for a entire piece of content. That said, I don't have a super ton of experience writing erotic content but even so, that's crazy lol
I think it really just depends on the individual honestly. I'm still blown away that I knew someone back in the day who could write like 10K worth of semi good content in a few hours where it took me 3+ hours to write like 2.5K worth of decent content. It is important to work at your own pace without burning yourself out. Nothing worse than trying to work and your just too tired or/and uninspired cause of burnout. Trying to get things done before a deadline, especially If it something that doesn't interest you, can be a royal pain in the ass.
Idk if you looked at the link, but it had a lot of actually famous and semi-famous authors and 1000 words seems to be fairly standard. Some were below that.

I think the difference is in the content too.

I could plop out 1000 words on a single subject right now if you asked me to, no problem, maybe in two hours.

But, just for context, Berwyn quest apparently comes in at above 70k words?
The first Harry Potter book was about 75k.

1000 words, every day, on the same subject for 70ish days? I'd tap out on Day Three. Keeping that going, at any kind of quality standard, for several months back to back is a huge ask. I doubt JK Rowling wrote each Harry Potter book in two months either.

Sustained creative writing is very different than single commissions or short stories.
 
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I can barely manage 1000 words in three hours. So whoever can do more than 2000 words a day, my hats off to them.
 

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If they were normal ovi's I'd probably agree with you, but the game treats them functionally like a cock instead. As in they are used for sex, they derive pleasure from it, and cum and ejaculate from it. Not simply laying eggs as an ovipositor does.
I understand your reasoning, it makes perfect sense, but i still personally disagree. To me, and i think this is also the reason i took issue with your post in the first place, as this stems from some personal frustrations i've had with coc and tits, when i think of futas, i think of a chick with a dick, plain and simple. Not weird tentacle shit, not enlarged clits, not ovi-cocks, just a plain dick and a pussy goddamnit. And of those futas, there are next to none in the form of generic combat encounters. There's Arona, but she's also a companion. There's the Siorcanna, the tanuki, the manticore and Hashat also. But....... That's kinda it. And even then, 2 of those 4 i mentioned after Arona are also npc's where combat is not mandatory. And then there's the band of elves and cultists, but you might not even get the option to bang the futa depending on if you win or lose.
CoC 1 and TiTS also have the same weird imbalance where there would be a okay amount of futa npcs, but just barely any futa enemies in the wild.
TiTS especially also has this issue where a lot of their generic futa enemies are done in a weird psuedo way, like the nyreans and zaika.
Like god fucking damn, why can't i get some regular futas to fight.

Definitely agree there. I'm not opposed to futa, but it feels like they all fall into the same trap of futa character only wants to use dick. They have multiple things to work with there, and most of their scenes are simply written as if it was just a guy instead. Come on, be a little more creative. They have double the ways to get off, let them.

Though I think their bigger focus should be on adding more content for male/futa npcs, because like I mentioned earlier, they have so little compared to the female ones. Combat is surprisingly close between the three. I mainly made the list to showcase why people feel like there are more futas than there actually are. Its mainly because you run into combat scenes a lot, and in combat the scenes with dicks outweigh the ones without.
Yeah, just look at this years mayternity. Dickgirl and one guy, the rest of the content went to fem npcs. Well, Arona get a little extra content too, i guess. Last years mayternity was also really light on dickwielding npcs.
It pains me that Wsan isn't gonna work on Evelyn until he's done with the minotaur city. We're also getting an Etheryn quest soon? Does anyone know what that will entail?
 

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The Ryn Quest is basically a continuation of her plotline, for from I read, generally what you'd expect.

Pursue Alyssa, some kind of dungeon, beat her ass, get Ryn's cage off, sexings with fully functional Ryn.

I hope we can tweak her dick size. It would be really funny to see Arona bring super salty about Ryn being bigger than her.
 

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The Ryn Quest is basically a continuation of her plotline, for from I read, generally what you'd expect.

Pursue Alyssa, some kind of dungeon, beat her ass, get Ryn's cage off, sexings with fully functional Ryn.

I hope we can tweak her dick size. It would be really funny to see Arona bring super salty about Ryn being bigger than her.
Will her preg content come with this, or will it be reserved for a later expansion?
I hope we can tweak it all the way down to zero. COPIUM
I remember there being some light drama on the fenoxo forums about this actually. Basically people got really pissy over others wanting to dedick her. But hey, atleast there is Elthara.
And Berwyn is actually getting dedicking content, so there's that too. Fingers crossed that we can give Berwyn big tiddies too.
 

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I remember there being some light drama on the fenoxo forums about this actually. Basically people got really pissy over others wanting to dedick her.
The thing is, they kind of hinted at/suggested it by explicitly stating that Etheryn tried to remove her dick in order to get rid of the cage. IMO it's kind of a no-brainer that some people would hope for that possibility after it's been mentioned.
 

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Will her preg content come with this, or will it be reserved for a later expansion?
Later, I think, since they want to do it right. Which is good since she is a companion and she should recieve a lot of care into making it feel special. Talks about having children, Interactions with PC and their pregnant state, interacting with their children, just sexy times in general. Since the last good PC pregnancy was Aronas, from 2020 and that one has plenty of caviats to it.
 
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