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Skandranon

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Personally the biggest problem is the writers being somewhat stubborn and not very receptive of criticism.
The actual biggest obstacle to this is that the kitsune are already the most popular content in the game. The kitsune are the most common race behind human, Kiyoko is the most liked companion, and the kitsune content (and Kinu specifically) is the most mentioned piece of content in their 92% positive Steam reviews, with lots of people gushing over it.

Taking time out to change or reroute it based on criticism from a relative minority of the customer base just probably isn't ever going to happen.
 

destroyerofassholes

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The actual biggest obstacle to this is that the kitsune are already the most popular content in the game. The kitsune are the most common race behind human, Kiyoko is the most liked companion, and the kitsune content (and Kinu specifically) is the most mentioned piece of content in their 92% positive Steam reviews, with lots of people gushing over it.

Taking time out to change or reroute it based on criticism from a relative minority of the customer base just probably isn't ever going to happen.
True, sort of explains how incredibly arrogant Tobs can be. He has the numbers to back it up.
 

Biostar

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I honestly have no idea what people like about the den. Ignore the general passive-aggressivness toward you, it's just bloated with long-winded drabble about shit that doesn't matter and about people they never try to make you like because they want to keep said passive-aggressiveness. Even the sex scenes get too bogged down with flowery language to be that sexy. I'm more willing to chalk it up to "yes-man" mentality than anything. "There's a lot so it must be good!"
 

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Kitsune so popular Savin had to put a stop to it or risk GOTY.

And it's actually around the time of the gobbo scene isn't it, did that discussion go "Look, no more weaboo," "WHAT!" "... but you get one scene with whoever you want." "Done." :KEK:
 
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Shiro15

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If most of the fans seem to like it and Tobs is just writing to please his yes men. Then fine. I don't mind being in the minority in this case. I think the kitsune stuff is mediocre at best. I kinda wish it was more meaningful to interact with them, as the Kitsune content seems to be the only thing ever getting an update.
 

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Kitsune so popular Savin had to put a stop to it or risk GOTY.
That's for nextgame, not this one iirc. Tobs doesn't get to do kitsune 2.0.

If I recall correctly that conversation was more about how kitsune were like a full third of the game, which I can't imagine didn't hurt the variety and scope of the game as a whole.


I honestly have no idea what people like about the den. Ignore the general passive-aggressivness toward you, it's just bloated with long-winded drabble about shit that doesn't matter and about people they never try to make you like because they want to keep said passive-aggressiveness. Even the sex scenes get too bogged down with flowery language to be that sexy. I'm more willing to chalk it up to "yes-man" mentality than anything. "There's a lot so it must be good!"
Weebs.

You ever tried to read a light novel?
 

hater45

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If most of the fans seem to like it and Tobs is just writing to please his yes men. Then fine. I don't mind being in the minority in this case. I think the kitsune stuff is mediocre at best. I kinda wish it was more meaningful to interact with them, as the Kitsune content seems to be the only thing ever getting an update.
Honestly I don't understand either. I'm a full weeb but Tobs has a problem of dumping lore when nobody ask. If he puts it behind choices and when the player is ready to read it, it can improve the den by a lot. Imagine still being talked down to despite having their god's favor, father of super special OC Kinu, and literally curb stomp them all in a fight.
 

MoneyMan181

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Weebs.

You ever tried to read a light novel?
At least some light novels are funny and clever like Konosuba. That and y'know, they're aimed at kids.

Taking time out to change or reroute it based on criticism from a relative minority of the customer base just probably isn't ever going to happen.
This just seems needlessly neutral. Yes obviously they aren't going to do it, but that isn't the point. It shouldn't need to be changed or reworked in the first place. It shouldn't feel like a completely different game in the first place. Christ, one review on Steam even calls it a "side story". Go read something else or implement this after the game is already finished if you want to have a side story. Either that or make it actually fit with the game in meaningful ways rather than hijacking it to put your fan-fic into it.
 

Evizzy89

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That's for nextgame, not this one iirc. Tobs doesn't get to do kitsune 2.0.

If I recall correctly that conversation was more about how kitsune were like a full third of the game, which I can't imagine didn't hurt the variety and scope of the game as a whole.




Weebs.

You ever tried to read a light novel?
this popped on on my amazon preview thingy.

I am a behemoth, and I get mistaken for a cat and I live as an elf girls pet.
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Evizzy89

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That's not yet all my frustration...
6788 patrons
32 659 bucks/month
Really? WTF?
TiTS


7,401
PATRONS
CA$46,513
PER MONTH

CoC2


6,788
PATRONS
CA$42,090
PER MONTH

they make some decent bank for how little they actually release IMO
dont get me wrong I enjoy both games and play them a couple times a month
but for 40k a month I would personally expect more =P
 

Shiro15

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TiTS


7,401
PATRONS
CA$46,513
PER MONTH

CoC2


6,788
PATRONS
CA$42,090
PER MONTH

they make some decent bank for how little they actually release IMO
dont get me wrong I enjoy both games and play them a couple times a month
but for 40k a month I would personally expect more =P
I'm assuming that doesn't account for steam sales either. I'm getting critcal bliss and yandere dev vibes after seeing those numbers. I know that money is getting split amongst multiple people, but with that much money they should be able to work full time on this, and have more content pushed out.
 

Evizzy89

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I'm assuming that doesn't account for steam sales either. I'm getting critcal bliss and yandere dev vibes after seeing those numbers. I know that money is getting split amongst multiple people, but with that much money they should be able to work full time on this, and have more content pushed out.
I know of yandere dev, but I have never heard of critcal bliss, is that another game developer?

Ive just always been surprised about how much these two games make, mostly because its text based and I assume there is less involved in updating it (I dont know anything about codes or developing things so)
It feels like creating scenes would be easier to do, pictures are minimal and usually very simple in design like its just writing it out...which once again doesn't take very long


its really not that much different from a hentai doujin right? the foundation is there so I assume adding a new character along with a few paragraphs of dialogue shouldnt be too difficult especially since as you said there is multiple people

but im just ranting because im bored and waiting for my lasagna <_<
no real complaints since im not super invested in this game >_>

I am honestly curious how much work it takes to create a new character or scene if anyone knows :3
(Like actual work say, putting in a 8 hour day grind) like someone who has to work for their paycheck
 

Shiro15

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I know of yandere dev, but I have never heard of critcal bliss, is that another game developer?

Ive just always been surprised about how much these two games make, mostly because its text based and I assume there is less involved in updating it (I dont know anything about codes or developing things so)
It feels like creating scenes would be easier to do, pictures are minimal and usually very simple in design like its just writing it out...which once again doesn't take very long


its really not that much different from a hentai doujin right? the foundation is there so I assume adding a new character along with a few paragraphs of dialogue shouldnt be too difficult especially since as you said there is multiple people

but im just ranting because im bored and waiting for my lasagna <_<
no real complaints since im not super invested in this game >_>

I am honestly curious how much work it takes to create a new character or scene if anyone knows :3
(Like actual work say, putting in a 8 hour day grind) like someone who has to work for their paycheck
Critcal Bliss started on Newgrounds. They announced a game my Neighbor is demons, so it was supposed to be a VN hentai game about a super horny college who scared off her boyfriend because she was so horny. After that these two demon twins move in next door and try to get her to embrace her horny side. It got announced like 5 years ago. Never came out despite meeting its kick starter goal and having a patreon. From my understanding the artist randomly abodoned the project. They still publish games, but still haven't released the original project.

But, yeah like you I'm only mildly invested. But since I work as an editor, when I see stuff that's kind of lacking, I like to think about how it can be improved. Honestly thinking about how the game could be improved is the most fun I've had with any of the content since first trying it out.
 
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