destroyerofassholes

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I'm more surprised that there's people out there who actually care enough about Azzy and Atugia.

I can somewhat get Azzy but Atugia has to be the single least cared about companion in the game together with Quin. At least gay dudes like Quin (because they have 0 other choice lmao). Pretty much nobody cares about Atugia.
 

Tau_Iota

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Well, from all the dev bs I'm reading I'm just glad they haven't touched Atugia and Azzy. Either give them a good update or don't touch them. Just... Don't.
Least if they even touch both you'll still have Cait, Vivienne (TBD), and Kiyoko (Brienne, if you wanna count that). Male enjoyers get to enjoy... oh just Quintilius now? (Unless you wanna count Brienne, so I have to count Brint).

Two things that I was thinking about. One, if they intend to leave it as just Quint and Brint (at least it rhymes...) they should get a big expansion for each of them (Make Quint more fucking gay friendly, and just gd friendly.) Give Brint an equivalent amount of content as Brienne, as they claim "equality" but her number of busts alone seem to outright refute that...

The second being, and this has been stewing for a while, Why the fuck does a fan-turned-writer get to completely change Etheryn to suddenly always wanting to be a boy because it fits her OC? Like it's not even as if it's hidden, she constantly posts commissioned artwork of the two of them (some would say cute, I would say really creepy). I know I'm sorta biting my own ass here, but cmon tell me how that makes sense? I don't hate Alypia for doing it, as no doubt if I were given a chance I'd probably end up rewriting someone as well. I hate the creative oversight that this game sorely lacks in all departments that allowed her to do so in the first place.

Put it to you this way, it's like Boromir doesn't try to take the Ring from Frodo because Tolkien passed LotR off to a different writer who happened to really like Boromir. This writer decides "Oh, I know his whole arc is about the burdens of saving humanity thrust upon him by his father and Boromir's own great love for Gondor and how his hubris is his fall but he's so cool he wouldn't try to take the ring!" Then, Twin Towers (Fellowship for the movie version) rolls around and Boromir dies (it's Sean Bean in the movie, it's no spoiler he dies) protecting Merry and Pippin. It stops being a symbol of who Boromir truly was (protector, empathetic, hero) despite his flaws (hubris, vainglorious, corruptable) not only ostracizing him at the very end but also guaranteeing his death. It instead becomes A Hero-Type portrayed by Sean Bean who dies doing a heroic thing because That's what heroes do (TM). This Hero-Type doesn't get to sway Aragorn in his final moments, the words he imparted upon him long before all of this ringing back to Aragorn. Aragorn who finally feels the same love for Gondor that Boromir had always felt. Who once brushed Gondor and Man aside, Aragorn now claims them as "Our people." Boromir gets to die happy, knowing that someone is ready to take up the journey he thought was his alone. You don't get his death's door loss of hubris, readily admitting that Aragorn is capable of doing what he could not and protect Frodo so he may deliver the Ring.

It's taking a core part of a character (Etheryn's gender identity and Boromir's hubris) and tearing it out, supplanting it with something else. Then having the gall to be shocked that people are upset about such a decision and rewriting to fit the new character. It's shit writing.

Sorry, I had to get that off my chest. Covid really got me . If mods wanna delete this I understand.
 

Skandranon

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The second being, and this has been stewing for a while, Why the fuck does a fan-turned-writer get to completely change Etheryn to suddenly always wanting to be a boy because it fits her OC?
I dont know why people think Alypia changed anything.

Savin has, as far as I know, never planned to give Ryn a vagina. He's repeatedly said that gender swapping is too much work, when directly asked he's said no to giving Ryn a vagina as far back as 2020, and dickgirls specifically without vaginas are his stated fetish ( the entire upcoming Astridae are are dickgirls for that reason).

Ryn wasn't ever planned to be gender swapped, and Savin certainly didn't change his mind based on one person writing a few scenes for her.
 

EmptyHusk97

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I dont know why people think Alypia changed anything.

Savin has, as far as I know, never planned to give Ryn a vagina. He's repeatedly said that gender swapping is too much work, when directly asked he's said no to giving Ryn a vagina as far back as 2020, and dickgirls specifically without vaginas are his stated fetish ( the entire upcoming Astridae are are dickgirls for that reason).

Ryn wasn't ever planned to be gender swapped, and Savin certainly didn't change his mind based on one person writing a few scenes for her.
The biggest culprit could be the lingerie sex scene then if you add the dreams and TFs scene it easy to see why.
Before I started reading the forum I was 100% sure Ryn would lose the dick.
 

Skandranon

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Iirc both of the dreams scenes were framed as evil/corrupt (champ forced the TF on Ryn in one of them I'm pretty sure) and they were both written by Tobs.
 

Tau_Iota

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I dont know why people think Alypia changed anything.

Savin has, as far as I know, never planned to give Ryn a vagina. He's repeatedly said that gender swapping is too much work, when directly asked he's said no to giving Ryn a vagina as far back as 2020, and dickgirls specifically without vaginas are his stated fetish ( the entire upcoming Astridae are are dickgirls for that reason).

Ryn wasn't ever planned to be gender swapped, and Savin certainly didn't change his mind based on one person writing a few scenes for her.
Thanks for proving my earlier point that you'll always be here to be the opposing side of the argument :KEK: Love ya and hate ya for it. It just really came off as female in all parts, even past the dream scenes. Not to mention you can make her look like a milf, she's already extremely feminine, etc
 

EmptyHusk97

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Iirc both of the dreams scenes were framed as evil/corrupt (champ forced the TF on Ryn in one of them I'm pretty sure) and they were both written by Tobs.
One for Dark Knight(forced one), the other one is Queen Ryn (max confidence).
Like I said before, the lingerie scene is the biggest reason most people believe Ryn was going to become full female.
 

Bloep

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It just really came off as female in all parts, even past the dream scenes. Not to mention you can make her look like a milf, she's already extremely feminine, etc
CoC2 scould be on of the last things were you would assume feminine character = character has vagina, or at the very least character doesn't have dick.
 

Skandranon

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Thanks for proving my earlier point that you'll always be here to be the opposing side of the argument :KEK: Love ya and hate ya for it. It just really came off as female in all parts, even past the dream scenes. Not to mention you can make her look like a milf, she's already extremely feminine, etc
This one is pretty cut and dry, though, I feel. Here's Savin posting on it in 2020.


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Her creator has been saying the same thing since day 1.


Heck, here's Tobs, the one who wrote those scenes, saying as far as he knows Ryn isn't ever planned to get a vagina - in 2018.

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Daken9

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I'm more surprised that there's people out there who actually care enough about Azzy and Atugia.

I can somewhat get Azzy but Atugia has to be the single least cared about companion in the game together with Quin. At least gay dudes like Quin (because they have 0 other choice lmao). Pretty much nobody cares about Atugia.
Talking of male characters, tbh never quite got what's so great about Brint either. I mean, i like him well enough because he turns into Brienne because he's a nice person, but at least from the outsive he looks like every gigachad male PC made into a NPC. Fucks around, effectively got his own harem, and the PC more covers the role of top squeeze or than anything else. Although his target audience likes him so it's probably me not getting it. Would be interesting to know if those into him are bothered by that stuff though, 'cause can't think of any female characters who are like that and generally well liked.

Also, writing this made me realize he's probably got a bunch of kids running around, who one may knock at their genderbent's dad door.

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Shiro15

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Talking of male characters, tbh never quite got what's so great about Brint either. I mean, i like him well enough because he turns into Brienne because he's a nice person, but at least from the outsive he looks like every gigachad male PC made into a NPC. Fucks around, effectively got his own harem, and the PC more covers the role of top squeeze or than anything else. Although his target audience likes him so it's probably me not getting it. Would be interesting to know if those into him are bothered by that stuff though, 'cause can't think of any female characters who are like that and generally well liked.

For me Brint was just the vanilla romance of this game. Which was nice as most character want to dom, sub or some other kink for the champ. Not kink shaming anyone, but vareity is the spice of life. This also why I think the male companions Brint, Berywn, and Ethryn almost all have their own place in the fandom, since they appealed to a different kinks. (with the exception of quin) If you want someone more docille and submissive with a micro-penis, you go for Ryn. Want the dude bro with a heart of gold and a horse cock, you choose Brint. And Berry filled the bratty Trap that'll dom you role. (Which a lot of people liked, because trap characters a typically just quirky or a sub) Naturally not everyone is going to like them, but they balanced each other out.

Now I do agree with you, besides being the strong, nice guy Brint does not have much going on. He does not have an arc or any goals besides adventuring. If he gets the champion pregnant he does mention might settle down with them but thats really it, as far as I know. This is part of the reason Brienne gets a lot of hate. Because she gets more development personality wise. If you asked me I'd rate the male companions like this Rynn, Brint and Berry. But that is manly due to how much content they get. Rynn by far has the most content and most development amongst the male companions, with Brint barely getting much in the ways of development these days. And Berry was all but forgotten until recently.

But I'm mostly repeating what other people have already said now.
 
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arls120

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Talking of male characters, tbh never quite got what's so great about Brint either. I mean, i like him well enough because he turns into Brienne because he's a nice person, but at least from the outsive he looks like every gigachad male PC made into a NPC. Fucks around, effectively got his own harem, and the PC more covers the role of top squeeze or than anything else. Although his target audience likes him so it's probably me not getting it. Would be interesting to know if those into him are bothered by that stuff though, 'cause can't think of any female characters who are like that and generally well liked.

Also, writing this made me realize he's probably got a bunch of kids running around, who one may knock at their genderbent's dad door.

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Well as someone who really enjoys Brint's content I'll tell you the truth.............. His content is very poor when it comes to gay content, although maybe it's better for female characters.. ....... The special thing about brint is that he treats you like his favorite even when you know that he is fucking and impregnating everywhere he still prefers you over the others, the sweet way in which he treats the character , without forgetting that he has no problem with that after interacting enough with him you can fuck him and he has the best pregnancy content among the male characters, but even with all that it does not take away from the fact that wsan has put the he messes up some things like brint if you're a male character (I don't know if it's just me who feels that way or there are more) indirectly sends you a bit that he prefers you to be a woman with huge lactating breasts not much but sometimes it can be somewhat uncomfortable.

And without forgetting with the charming scene that brint can impregnate the priestess (I wonder who are the ones who enjoy that content, I don't judge them, it just makes me curious) also the scene that when helping the cow at the entrance of the city of korminus brint tells you how he should stop ignoring the hot cows or he will have to do something (I know it's not entirely correct but I don't remember the scene well and I prefer not to remember it) which breaks with the fact that for brint you are the most special ....... I almost forgot the scene that can happen when you travel through the town in which two women talking, one mentions how he would like to fuck with brint and that he should visit him to try and our character congratulating brint I don't remember if it was wsan who wrote it but that person kind of thinks we're stupid and wants to remind us how brint fucks with everything that has a hole besides us.

There are more things but for me those would be the main ones, of course it should also be noted that it is difficult to find games where they don't want to sissify you or give you emotional therapy as if you were going to play porn games to become a woman or check how good you are emotional state with all this brint is really a sigh of relief.
 

MoneyMan181

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Savin has, as far as I know, never planned to give Ryn a vagina. He's repeatedly said that gender swapping is too much work
I feel like she'd be the easiest character to gender swap by far, though. Literally just remove scenes or mentions of her dick, then change "you fuck butthole" to "you fuck vagina". It's not like she has a plethora of content focusing on her dick, there's just 2 scenes of it. And for an extremely effeminate character like her, it just feels like giving her one is the natural thing to do - especially if they wanna do this weird ass pregnancy bullshit with Elthara.

Devs should not be in their comfort zone all the time writing only fetishes they like, at least for a game like this. He already has Arona, don't see why he should get 2 companions that have to be right down his alley specifically.
 
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