Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.32] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[enumate]

I come back after a short hiatus and find that the devs think they're so big they can remove content because of some BS reason... This is sounding like Breeding Season all over again. Maybe if the project was a lot less hostile the writer wouldn't have left.

At least add a toggle so players can go between new / old content. Or let us actually mod the game to suit our interests better if content is going to be removed. It makes no sense for a fetish game to remove fetishes because the product manager's ego extends to Mars.

We're not talking about handing off a company or world ending project. It's an OC, a decently complex one at best, simple at worst. This bullshit about it being unavailable for the time being... we all know once content is removed it's not coming back, else Shar would be a companion by now.

 

[Skandranon]

I feel like she'd be the easiest character to gender swap by far, though. Literally just remove scenes or mentions of her dick, then change "you fuck butthole" to "you fuck vagina".

It's not like she has a plethora of content focusing on her dick, there's just 2 scenes of it. And for an extremely effeminate character like her, it just feels like giving her one is the natural thing to do - especially if they wanna do this weird ass pregnancy bullshit with Elthara.

Devs should not be in their comfort zone all the time writing only fetishes they like, at least for a game like this. He already has Arona, don't see why he should get 2 companions that have to be right down his alley specifically.

Eh.

Whether it should be done or not isn't what I'm talking about here (though my position on gender swapping is generally negative )- just that it was probably never planned to happen in the first place, and that certainly Alypia had nothing to do with whether it happened or not.

 

[Biostar]

I feel like she'd be the easiest character to gender swap by far, though. Literally just remove scenes or mentions of her dick, then change "you fuck butthole" to "you fuck vagina". It's not like she has a plethora of content focusing on her dick, there's just 2 scenes of it. And for an extremely effeminate character like her, it just feels like giving her one is the natural thing to do - especially if they wanna do this weird ass pregnancy bullshit with Elthara.

This is why this attachment to her useless dick makes no sense to me. They retcon her to be female instead of a male bullied into being a girl, write scenes where she accepts and enjoys being feminized and loves dick, make her explicitly fall in love with you and basically engaged to the point she would want children with you, but instead of getting a vagina to have a child with you, her heir, she prefers to impregnate someone she had no romantic feelings for. It's so forced in a game with TFs.

 

[Boardguy]

This is why this attachment to her useless dick makes no sense to me. They retcon her to be female instead of a male bullied into being a girl, write scenes where she accepts and enjoys being feminized and loves dick, make her explicitly fall in love with you and basically engaged to the point she would want children with you, but instead of getting a vagina to have a child with you, her heir, she prefers to impregnate someone she had no romantic feelings for. It's so forced in a game with TFs.

The best part is they don't have to have Ryn keep the vagina if they're so adamant about it. Just either have the goddess of fertility & breeding help you out or have Ryn get a temp vagina and something to speed up the pregnancy and do a small time skip or event chain. We have precedent for it like when building the way fort, marrying Kiyoko, or when you go to the cloister. You could even have the player ask Evergreen to make you something to speed up pregnancy and just pay her fee. There is literally not a single reason for there to be this heir issue for players without vaginas.

 

[Daken9]

This is why this attachment to her useless dick makes no sense to me. They retcon her to be female instead of a male bullied into being a girl, write scenes where she accepts and enjoys being feminized and loves dick, make her explicitly fall in love with you and basically engaged to the point she would want children with you, but instead of getting a vagina to have a child with you, her heir, she prefers to impregnate someone she had no romantic feelings for. It's so forced in a game with TFs.

She prefers to live the rest of her life in a cage more like, because like hell she's impregnating Elthara.

Granted, and giving them ideas here, not even sure why a high confidence queen of the elves Ryn would even want to listen to us if we're against it. Makes me wish they'd flashed out her low confidence route more. Or, well, any. Right now it just feels like her initial state, and fair enough that purposefully breaking down her psyche to become the power behind the throne would be severely fucked up, but goddamn it shit writes itself and i wanna be smart evil for a change.

 

[Lord Kentus]

She prefers to live the rest of her life in a cage more like, because like hell she's impregnating Elthara.

Granted, and giving them ideas here, not even sure why a high confidence queen of the elves Ryn would even want to listen to us if we're against it. Makes me wish they'd flashed out her low confidence route more. Or, well, any. Right now it just feels like her initial state, and fair enough that purposefully breaking down her psyche to become the power behind the throne would be severely fucked up, but goddamn it shit writes itself and i wanna be smart evil for a change.

Makes you miss COC1 doesn't it?

Does for me anyway

 

[FluffyDaemon]

Talking of male characters, tbh never quite got what's so great about Brint either. I mean, i like him well enough because he turns into Brienne because he's a nice person, but at least from the outsive he looks like every gigachad male PC made into a NPC. Fucks around, effectively got his own harem, and the PC more covers the role of top squeeze or

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than anything else. Although his target audience likes him so it's probably me not getting it. Would be interesting to know if those into him are bothered by that stuff though, 'cause can't think of any female characters who are like that and generally well liked.

Also, writing this made me realize he's probably got a bunch of kids running around, who one may knock at their genderbent's dad door.

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I don't really have strong feelings about Brint, I like him cause he's one of the few males in the game, but I don't think he's amazing. He's just a vanilla, bara bull guy, although it feels like he was designed for female PC.

Him fucking around with others doesn't really bother me and it rarely happens in my playthrough.
What does annoy me though is that you can't really dom Brint, since the PC needs to get topped first to unlock his sex menu.

 

[Deleted member 1660801]

This is off-topic but I find it too interesting to not bring up. I joined the discord (Against better Judgement) and did a little poking around. It seems like F95 is the most hated forum for discussion about CoC2. Even more than 4Chan, why is this? I mean sure there are some dumb comments here and there but I just find this so strange.

 

[Shiro15]

I come back after a short hiatus and find that the devs think they're so big they can remove content because of some BS reason... This is sounding like Breeding Season all over again. Maybe if the project was a lot less hostile the writer wouldn't have left.

At least add a toggle so players can go between new / old content. Or let us actually mod the game to suit our interests better if content is going to be removed. It makes no sense for a fetish game to remove fetishes because the product manager's ego extends to Mars.

We're not talking about handing off a company or world ending project. It's an OC, a decently complex one at best, simple at worst. This bullshit about it being unavailable for the time being... we all know once content is removed it's not coming back, else Shar would be a companion by now.

Based off what the original writer is saying, they were forced out, not that they left. Which if thats the case it makes the devs look worst, as they fired someone without finding a replacement writer. And there should be no excuse about cost as they should be able to use the money they were paying hugs to hire a new writer.

But the long and short is I agree with you. Whether Hugs quit or was fired it would be on the devs to fix the situation instead of playing the blame game.

 

[Shiro15]

This is off-topic but I find it too interesting to not bring up. I joined the discord (Against better Judgement) and did a little poking around. It seems like F95 is the most hated forum for discussion about CoC2. Even more than 4Chan, why is this? I mean sure there are some dumb comments here and there but I just find this so strange.

I can't speak about 4chan or the discord server as I haven't been on them, but nothing being said here hasn't been said on Fenexo's site or steam. Some people believe its because the devs can't control whats being said over here. I always just chalked it up to this site being more vocal in its criticism and some of the devs are to thin skinned to handle it. I know I've only been on this forum for about a week, but the criticism seems pretty tamed for the most part, and a lot people also offer advise to fix the issue.

P.S This has the same vibes as Disney and Kathleen Kennedy saying that only misogynist and bots disliked the new star wars trilogy. But if you interact with anyone who says they disliked the new star wars they'll usually say its because it breaks the established canon and doesn't work as a narrative. They have legitimate grievances, can point to them and sometimes will offer advice on how to improve the content. But for content creators it is easier to attack their critics instead of address the criticism.

 

[Kroenen12]

This is off-topic but I find it too interesting to not bring up. I joined the discord (Against better Judgement) and did a little poking around. It seems like F95 is the most hated forum for discussion about CoC2. Even more than 4Chan, why is this? I mean sure there are some dumb comments here and there but I just find this so strange.

"hate the game" "peanut gallery" "dislike cait/prefer monogamy=incels" etc.

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[Boardguy]

Sorry, it has been a bit, why hasn't Kas corrupt spread like a bad STI across the land cause of the Mallachites and the general world being way more promiscuous than the corrupted shithole that was coc1 world? Has it not been long enough in-universe or something?

 

[KloneZone]

Sorry, it has been a bit, why hasn't Kas corrupt spread like a bad STI across the land cause of the Mallachites and the general world being way more promiscuous than the corrupted shithole that was coc1 world? Has it not been long enough in-universe or something?

Because shitty writing.

 

[Skandranon]

Sorry, it has been a bit, why hasn't Kas corrupt spread like a bad STI across the land cause of the Mallachites and the general world being way more promiscuous than the corrupted shithole that was coc1 world? Has it not been long enough in-universe or something?

Promiscuity doesn't spread corruption. Especially with Mallachites, as they are priests and actually seem to cleanse corruption. Plus, this isn't even the Mallachite region, Cait's the only one in the area before you build the temple.

And in universe, it hasn't been that long; I'd assume it probably hasn't been more than maybe a month or two since Kas showed up, story-wise. Cas is mostly working on corrupting specific areas and you keep undoing her work.

 

[Shiro15]

Sorry, it has been a bit, why hasn't Kas corrupt spread like a bad STI across the land cause of the Mallachites and the general world being way more promiscuous than the corrupted shithole that was coc1 world? Has it not been long enough in-universe or something?

I only recently started playing CoC1, but isn't CoC2 a prequel to CoC1? If it is maybe (and know Savin probably won't do this since their the writer for cait) the Mallachites do cause the fucked up world that is CoC1. Would fit the lore.

Edit: Guess i'm wrong thanks for clearing that up Skandranon. I might go do Cait's content to see if she's as bad everyone makes her out to be.

 

[Skandranon]

I only recently started playing CoC1, but isn't CoC2 a prequel to CoC1?

No, its the sequel. Takes place immediately after CoC1. In fact, I think Lethice's fortess is being assaulted when Calla and Kas switch places.

 

[Boardguy]

By Promsicous I mean the fuck around more aka one of the ways corruption can spread very fast and having a sex cult in a universe spreads it very fast, hell coc1 had a lust cult. You would think one of the demons would be trying to sell cum pastries by now.

 

[MoneyMan181]

"hate the game" "peanut gallery" "dislike cait/prefer monogamy=incels" etc.

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Holy mother of based, Anonarts is a chad for going against the grain and not giving a fuck. I'd be hesitant to interact with anybody in the place at all.

Promiscuity doesn't spread corruption.

I mean if you have sex with a demon, you're going to get corrupted. Promiscuity may not inherently spread it, but it makes the likelihood way higher.

Especially with Mallachites, as they are priests and actually seem to cleanse corruption.

We haven't actually seen Cait offer to purify you or anything despite being a priest so I don't think this is the case. Not even Sanders is able to do it for you, and he's probably way more experienced in that sort of thing than her. Seems like corruption is an intrinsic thing other people can't really cure.

 

[muschi26]

We haven't actually seen Cait offer to purify you or anything despite being a priest so I don't think this is the case. Not even Sanders is able to do it for you, and he's probably way more experienced in that sort of thing than her. Seems like corruption is an intrinsic thing other people can't really cure.

(Literally) kissing her ass removes corruption, though.

 

[Skandranon]

By Promsicous I mean the fuck around more aka one of the ways corruption can spread very fast and having a sex cult in a universe spreads it very fast, hell coc1 had a lust cult. You would think one of the demons would be trying to sell cum pastries by now.

What demons? There really aren't that many yet. We've only met...like 4 actual demons? Painted ladies couldn't even pretend to be part of society. The two demons outside of KM and the shopkeeper demon aren't really interested in spreading corruption.

Kas is really the only one actively attempting to do anything yet, and you keep fucking with her plans.

I mean if you have sex with a demon, you're going to get corrupted. Promiscuity may not inherently spread it, but it makes the likelihood way higher.

Yeah, but you have to be promiscuous with a demon/heavily corrupted individual, specifically. Most of the corrupted individuals so far are stuff likes imps, alraune, beegirls, ie stuff out in the wilderness that people aren't going out and fucking for fun, for the most part. It hasn't spread yet, and there's no organized attempt to do so besides the random pockets Kas keeps starting up and you keep putting down.

Remember, in CoC1 there was an actual large and organized demon army devoted to spreading corruption. They had a factory literally pumping the stuff into the water. COC2 is nowhere near there yet.