Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.47] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Walk Cycle]

Yeah I'm not giving money to the Mallachites, fuck them (in a way they don't like).

The Nursery and Wayfort seems like a better investment. But I never hang out in the Wayfort and its inhabitants feel lackluster, The Nursery seems like a better choice since you contribute to the community but aside from flavor text and being able to sex Gwyn I feel like I'm not getting the bang for my buck.

As for equipment most of the ones I want to buy rarely make a dent in my budget. Besides, you get better unique equipment by doing quests anyway.

 

[sugouxxx]

Yeah I'm not giving money to the Mallachites, fuck them (in a way they don't like).

It's not bad, it's just basically you pay a lot money to have sex with their God. Not like you can't bang mommy valkyrie and Genderbender Kitsune.

In other news, i'm become loser because fall in love with Kiyoko for months.

 

[FictitiouslySane]

Just realized that you can get infinite money since winning a sparring match against Evelyn gives you 400 gold. Not that it's really necessary since they barely give you opportunities to spend gold, but still.

Username checks out

 

[Thatguymercy]

It's not bad, it's just basically you pay a lot money to have sex with their God. Not like you can't bang mommy valkyrie and Genderbender Kitsune.

In other news, i'm become loser because fall in love with Kiyoko for months.

Speaking of the Mallachite content, i find it strange that River/Mallach wasn't made a companion character yet considering he's interested in your soul and wants to observe you. He could've been the early lust damage companion we could've gotten (fuck you Quint), the first god that introduces Soul Binding and most importantly be actually available in the game instead of being only intractable one time only. Cause yknow he's only the all knowing god of the most important companion character's religon surely they won't have interesting interactions and scenes to play off this fact cause god fucking forbid Cait actually gets another character trait that isnt professionally licking off dry spum off the floor and walls.

 

[Alterism]

Just realized that you can get infinite money since winning a sparring match against Evelyn gives you 400 gold. Not that it's really necessary since they barely give you opportunities to spend gold, but still.

Most of the undermountain fights are 500 and you can auto battle through nearly all of them even on dark at the speed of light. If you haven't made friendly the two demons yet they're 1800(!) per fight.

It's really easy get money in TiTS tho. You can grinding in mining planet or gamble and doing save scum. CoC 2 is more difficult, and nursery upgrade is cost a LOT MONEY.

Disagree a bit.
TiTS it's easy to get relatively small amounts of money unless you're gambling. But, money never becomes full inconsequential (again unless you're gambling) due to everything (modding, gearing, ship, multiple quests) needing tons of it. Rocks alone from Zhen'shi's mine would take... a considerable amount of farming that just to buy a single piece of equipment on dhaal. Your first 10k (unless you don't feel like capping stats) is dedicated to either recruiting Ramis or buying a New Texas Gym Membership. Then there's the mods. Oh the mods... Depending on what you want... It costs a bit.


On the flip side money in CoC2 is never really an issue. The only thing requiring much being the wayfort, orphanage, and if you're feeling wasteful, buying everything from Vitruvius.

• TF's are targeted (so you need less) are less numerous, cheaper (barring Nash), and some are free. With the games equivalent to dicksprout being given to you raw in the tutorial.
• The entirety of wayfort is around 9k to 17k dependent on choices
• Nearly all good gear you can obtain are obtained through quests or found
• Almost all training is incredibly inexpensive
• Consumables that are rations or camping supplies are completely unnecessary

Putting my money where my mouth is I made a new playthrough and got to 10.5k at the end of WC. Enough for the wayfort. But, then comes the undermountain... As mentioned it dumps money into you. Just getting to KM put me at 15.5k Finishing the first Celise quest took me from 15.5k to 28k. Doing the second part of Celise quest took me from 28k to 40k.

Enough to clear out the shops, fix the wayfort, renovate the orphanage, TF into whatever I want, learn every power, and still have dosh to spare. On a regular playthrough where people are doing sidequests it's significantly higher than that. It's part of the reason I talked about the encounter rate so much in previous posts. Them nearly doubling it broke what little economy the game had and made EC near inconsequential.

And so

Speaking of which, what are the money sinks in this game? TiTS has ships and its upgrades, a few weapons, armor and accessories reach six digits, and Paige's surgery costs half a million credits. Where can we really spend money here?

To answer your question. There aren't any money sinks.

 

[Thatguymercy]

Most of the undermountain fights are 500 and you can auto battle through nearly all of them even on dark at the speed of light. If you haven't made friendly the two demons yet they're 1800(!) per fight.


Disagree a bit.
TiTS it's easy to get relatively small amounts of money unless you're gambling. But, money never becomes full inconsequential (again unless you're gambling) due to everything (modding, gearing, ship, multiple quests) needing tons of it. Rocks alone from Zhen'shi's mine would take... a considerable amount of farming that just to buy a single piece of equipment on dhaal. Your first 10k (unless you don't feel like capping stats) is dedicated to either recruiting Ramis or buying a New Texas Gym Membership. Then there's the mods. Oh the mods... Depending on what you want... It costs a bit.


On the flip side money in CoC2 is never really an issue. The only thing requiring much being the wayfort, orphanage, and if you're feeling wasteful, buying everything from Vitruvius.

• TF's are targeted (so you need less) are less numerous, cheaper (barring Nash), and some are free. With the games equivalent to dicksprout being given to you raw in the tutorial.
• The entirety of wayfort is around 9k to 17k dependent on choices
• Nearly all good gear you can obtain are obtained through quests or found
• Almost all training is incredibly inexpensive
• Consumables that are rations or camping supplies are completely unnecessary

Putting my money where my mouth is I made a new playthrough and got to 10.5k at the end of WC. Enough for the wayfort. But, then comes the undermountain... As mentioned it dumps money into you. Just getting to KM put me at 15.5k Finishing the first Celise quest took me from 15.5k to 28k. Doing the second part of Celise quest took me from 28k to 40k.

Enough to clear out the shops, fix the wayfort, renovate the orphanage, TF into whatever I want, learn every power, and still have dosh to spare. On a regular playthrough where people are doing sidequests it's significantly higher than that. It's part of the reason I talked about the encounter rate so much in previous posts. Them nearly doubling it broke what little economy the game had and made EC near inconsequential.

And so

To answer your question. There aren't any money sinks.

The real money sink is donating to this games patreon.

 

[Plumpunikitty]

It's really easy get money in TiTS tho. You can grinding in mining planet or gamble and doing save scum. CoC 2 is more difficult, and nursery upgrade is cost a LOT MONEY.

Personally, I just beat Doctor lash in a fight to get a million wing wangs, when ever I need cash. In CoC 2 I don't recall a really need to farm money, However I think dumped at least half a million in the Nursery out of curiosity.

 

[claralover]

It's me again, here to once again complain that the next update is taking too long

 

[MoneyMan181]

Username checks out

It's me again, here to once again complain that the next update is taking too long

I would assume Rynquest is next so that's probably why it's taking a bit longer.

Can't wait for the shit storm it'll probably cause on here .

Most of the undermountain fights are 500 and you can auto battle through nearly all of them even on dark at the speed of light. If you haven't made friendly the two demons yet they're 1800(!) per fight.

True, but I think the Eve sparring is the fastest way of accumulating wealth since you can (almost) just spam the exact same button constantly for however long you want.

 

[Frogperson]

I like the game, but i kinda feel like it oughta get on with the main plot a bit more rather than adding side-stuff.

 

[Thatguymercy]

I like the game, but i kinda feel like it oughta get on with the main plot a bit more rather than adding side-stuff.

 

[Skandranon]

I like the game, but i kinda feel like it oughta get on with the main plot a bit more rather than adding side-stuff.

The whole reason the main plot is paused is because so many people demanded side stuff (basically Brihaus).

 

[Mandoto]

The whole reason the main plot is paused is because so many people demanded side stuff (basically Brihaus).

Brihaus has been in purgatory for a year and a half, if it was really that highly demanded and was preventing the main plot from progressing, don't you think Savin would've reigned Wsan in at this point and told him to focus on finishing it instead of starting a new project every other day? He's released what? Six new characters and two new character expansions in that time?

I'm willing to bet the sluggish pace of the game has more to do with the 40k+ check Savin receives every month.

 

[Skandranon]

Brihaus has been in purgatory for a year and a half, if it was really that highly demanded and was preventing the main plot from progressing, don't you think Savin would've reigned Wsan in at this point and told him to focus on finishing it instead of starting a new project every other day? He's released what? Six new characters and two new character expansions in that time?

I'm willing to bet the sluggish pace of the game has more to do with the 40k+ check Savin receives every month.

Eh, no not really. Wsan was working on the Arena, for awhile, from what he was talking about before, and he stopped working on that like 5 or 6 months ago to focus on Brihaus (which, by all counts, is huge at this point). Brihaus was probably not initially planned until the end of KM in general, but it's been bumped up.

I dont think Savin really tells Wsan what to work on at all, from what I've seen.

I doubt how much the game is making has anything to do with anything. The game makes a steady amount, and when they are done with this one....they'll just immediately transition into a new one. There's no actual financial incentive to drag development out.

 

[Biostar]

because so many people demanded side stuff (basically Brihaus)

Because everything else sucks.

 

[Mandoto]

Eh, no not really. Wsan was working on the Arena, for awhile, from what he was talking about before, and he stopped working on that like 5 or 6 months ago to focus on Brihaus (which, by all counts, is huge at this point). Brihaus was probably not initially planned until the end of KM in general, but it's been bumped up.

I dont think Savin really tells Wsan what to work on at all, from what I've seen.

I doubt how much the game is making has anything to do with anything. The game makes a steady amount, and when they are done with this one....they'll just immediately transition into a new one. There's no actual financial incentive to drag development out.

How is it preventing the main story from progressing then? Does KM's portion of the main plotline hinge on Brihaus being completed? Why doesn't Savin put his foot down and do away with Wsan's dumbass idea of having complete creative control over KM and get some of the other writers on the team working on it? Complete lack of leadership and structure is the probably the biggest downfall of this game and likely the primary reason the main storyline is at a standstill.

Also I admire your faith in the devs and humanity in general to think that the easy paycheck these guys receive each month has nothing to do with the pace at which the game's being developed.

 

[Skandranon]

How is it preventing the main story from progressing then? Does KM's portion of the main plotline hinge on Brihaus being completed? Why doesn't Savin put his foot down and do away with Wsan's dumbass idea of having complete creative control over KM and get some of the other writers on the team working on it? Complete lack of leadership and structure is the probably the biggest downfall of this game and likely the primary reason the main storyline is at a standstill.

That's wasn't Wsans idea, it was Savins idea from what I know, so putting his foot down seems like not a great idea.

Amd quite frankly? There's no actual reason to, because it's not a problem. As said, Brihaus is probably the most anticipated thing in the game right now. There's zero reason to take someone off something everyone wants to do something vastly fewer people want.

From the devs standpoint, there's no problem, and quite frankly, not a lot of players seem concerned except the odd grumble here and there. People are here for porn, the main story is a side dish.

Also I admire your faith in the devs and humanity in general to think that the easy paycheck these guys receive each month has nothing to do with the pace at which the game's being developed.

Think you entirely missed my point.

Immediately after this game, they'll simply start a new game. It is imo extremely likely that most people will stay pledged for the new game also (its what usually happens when devs start new games on the same Patreon). Income won't change much.

There is probably little to no monetary difference between them finishing the game this year and finishing it 5 years from now, because whenever they finish it they'll just roll into a new one and the fanbase will follow because they have the niche locked up.

 

[MoneyMan181]

I dont think Savin really tells Wsan what to work on at all, from what I've seen.

That's one of the reasons the game feels like a complete mess. Holding the main story back is a big deal because it prevents everybody else from working on future content. This is why allowing only one person to work on an entire hub is a shit idea.

People are here for porn,

Not entirely correct considering people actually like kitsune content.

From the devs standpoint, there's no problem

This is basically a non-statement. We're not talking about things from a devs standpoint. That's not something anybody here has ever really done because it's completely pointless.

Think you entirely missed my point.

No everybody understands your point, you're just not understanding other people's point. If the monetary income isn't going to change much, they have no reason to work as hard as possible to finish this game and move on to the next one. Nothing incentivizes them to work at 100% when they could just work at 80% or however much it is and have the same exact outcome. Same money for less work, especially when considering starting new projects is a lot more work than just continuing an existing one.

 

[Quintilus]

Brihaus

Who?


On a side note, is there are any scene/reference/hint in some scene that point out that demon(s) are actually evil (including previous game) in a more generic/usual sense of a word 'evil', not in a 'imma make u my cock sleeve UwU'? Making someone a cock sleeve is an evil action, yes, but not as evil as 'imma hang u on ur own guts ^_^' in my book, there are some 'distance' between that two actions.

 

[Quintilus]

This is why allowing only one person to work on an entire hub is a shit idea.

Not entirely.
Lets take racists of this 'gaym', as example here, kitsunes. While they bad, from pretty much every point, they are consistently bad. There are no points like 'wow, it tasted like a 'toddler accident' before, but from this point it tastes like an old sock, that get an ability to stand on its own. Its pretty clear this part was written by OBS and this by someone else'.
What I mean is, having full creative control leads to more coherent, if a bit detached from main...lets say plot, pieces, if person with full creative control is not the same person who 'lead' writing, of course.

Quality of writing was not the point, this time.