Wrynn13

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We already have that! the big blue valkyrie up in Lumia's keep, I don't need a re-do of that, gimme an actual dommi mommy with no futa dick!
The big blueberry is the best character in the Lumia temple, and yes we need more like her. a half dozen more and you wouldn't even come close to the number of dommi mommies that we already have too many of. Definitely need more dickless characters of either stripe though.
 
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Just to put something in perspective: there's been three(3) permanent futa NPCs added in the last year. Kalysea, Annika, and Seastone. That's it.

In that same timeframe, there's been 7+ female characters added (actually more like 10+, because I don't remember how many people are in Starhome so I only counted all female Siorc as 1, but I'm pretty sure there's at least 3).

On top of that, both Kalysea and Seastone are pretty barebones (3 scenes and iirc 2 scenes respectively, though Seastone has changes for alpha/beta).

If we were to count scenes instead of characters, the disparity would grow even more (just for example, in Mayternity, exactly 1 futa character got any love at all, everything else was for pure female NPCs).



Juuust so everyone has accurate info about what this game is focused on...

(as an aside, there's been two dudes...Tetsuya and Yusra).
 

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Seastone are pretty barebones


Not to mention yes the differences between Alpha and Beta

Now before I go on, I should mention that even in tits I never had an issue with content distribution (as this debate is older than both games).
But just like in TiTS, judging distribution by raw NPC count has always been misleading. NPCs aren't created equal. While there are more females than futas in starhome, one is asexual, one has a solo scene, and the other is locked behind a foursome that also involves a futa.

In regards to content for futas theres:
Evergreens new blowjob
Dragoon Azzy and Dragon Evelyn, Seastone's myraid of scenes and the futa shark(s) down there, (technically Futa Lyric), Kas dungeon scenes (admittedly only three), The water bard, technically the dragon mace, Vivianne got that new scene, technically Berwyn, Arona's got a bunch of new scenes + that pregnancy expansion, and uhhh... Well we're not counting dickgirls right?
When did those undermountain demons get added?

There's seldom been long periods where futa lovers haven't been eating good.

Edit: Actually now that I think on it. The only people who really have been starving are male lovers.
As per usual, really.
 

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Oh yeah the M/M players definitely get the short stinky end of the stick. Just because I complain about the lack of pure female subs in the game doesn't discount that.
 

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uhh confusion.Did i miss those shark girls or seastone?Cause the wiki dont have them and i dont rember them in game.Where were they?
 

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uhh confusion.Did i miss those shark girls or seastone?Cause the wiki dont have them and i dont rember them in game.Where were they?
Over here. Glacial rift past elf kingdom. There's like a whole side quest fight gaunlet associated with the dungeon. I recommend bringing Agni/be a charmer I believe so you don't miss anything(there's a summon you can lose out on if Im not mistaken).
 

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uhh confusion.Did i miss those shark girls or seastone?Cause the wiki dont have them and i dont rember them in game.Where were they?
That ice place with the frost giants. You have to finish Gweyr's quest and then you can talk to the shark hippy who'll set you on the path to meet the rest of the sharks.

Over here. There's like a whole side quest fight gaunlet associated with the dungeon. I recommend bringing Agni/be a charmer I believe so you don't miss anything(there's a summon you can lose out on if Im not mistaken).
Unless I'm wrong, everybody can get that summon.
 

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That ice place with the frost giants. You have to finish Gweyr's quest and then you can talk to the shark hippy who'll set you on the path to meet the rest of the sharks.


Unless I'm wrong, everybody can get that summon.
Wait Summon? What summon? I've been there dozens of times and NEVER brought Agni, what did I missed?¡ XD
 

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Just ask Quint
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the game will see more modding when it's "finished"
Thats a straight up lie.
While its possible that they have magical uber engine that they feed text scenes and description where it, uber engine, should put them and such shit, overall architecture of code give obvious hints that chances of it infinitesimal. It most definitely coded by the javascript programmers, that know jack shit about programming, in general term.

Just imagine that somebody builds skyscraper without sewerage system, argumenting it absence with something like 'when we finish it we will add it'. But it will turns out that it reqiure breaking main/bearing walls/floors, creation of additional technical floors, breaking/redesigning from scratch electrical system, etc. It will be building it all from scratch.
Nobody, from those who know how to do it, will do it for....what, 5k $ month?!

Proper mods support requires engine to have more or less working compiler. And its...hard.
Im currently stuck on parsing step (collection and sorting of data with, and by, specific parameters) which looks like this
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and it still dont ready for the next step, syntax analysis (look for, and reporting as faulty, all cases of operations like "'this is string' - 13", as an example).

tl;dr savin just 'damage controlling' saying that 'mods will be there'. Dont believe to the man who have disturbingly...disturbing thing for a futa....and that doesnt know anything about programming.


There is no code to block mods; it's just that whenever they minifiy a new version of the game, a large number of variables have their names changed to just a few letters to save space, but the process doesn't keep in mind what name it used last time it did the process so they often receive different names each time; thanks to this, any modding that uses those variables would need to update to what the new names are, making complicated mods or mods that alter existing content nearly impossible thanks to the time it would take to update them for each new version.
Its possible to implement some kind of mod support (read as 'really bad') by using a source map. Electron (node) is able to interpret and launch it, after all.
But its literally digging into mangled and obfuscated code for a.....what? Its not a skyrim, quake or doom (old) to justify it by the fingertips gameplay. Porn is really 'ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh', unless you have like two or three fetish that overused there. A chance to get shitted on by the devs? There are 4chan for that kind of things. Or even better, twatter....I mean twitter, where such thing is automated.
And thats omitting the fact that its hard, of course. Mapping BEE BOP BIP to minimized values representation, I mean.
 
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Not to mention yes the differences between Alpha and Beta
Eh, well, my knowledge of Starhome was shaky, like I said.

Now before I go on, I should mention that even in tits I never had an issue with content distribution (as this debate is older than both games).
But just like in TiTS, judging distribution by raw NPC count has always been misleading. NPCs aren't created equal. While there are more females than futas in starhome, one is asexual, one has a solo scene, and the other is locked behind a foursome that also involves a futa.

In regards to content for futas theres:
Evergreens new blowjob
Dragoon Azzy and Dragon Evelyn, Seastone's myraid of scenes and the futa shark(s) down there, (technically Futa Lyric), Kas dungeon scenes (admittedly only three), The water bard, technically the dragon mace, Vivianne got that new scene, technically Berwyn, Arona's got a bunch of new scenes + that pregnancy expansion, and uhhh... Well we're not counting dickgirls right?
When did those undermountain demons get added?

There's seldom been long periods where futa lovers haven't been eating good.

Edit: Actually now that I think on it. The only people who really have been starving are male lovers.
As per usual, really.
Well, like I said I wasn't sure about Starhome, but as to the rest of your comment....nah.

As someone who does watch for futa stuff, I've watched whole months go by without a single scene of the stuff.

The scenes you named come with a bunch of asterisks and "technicallys".

Cassidy can be any gender. (And has no futa exclusive scenes).
Lyric too. (And has no futa exclusive scenes).
Berwyn too (and has no futa exclusive scenes.).

And other than that, you're mostly listing a few one offs months apart.

If we were to go month by month for just this year for NPCs....

June: 3 scenes with Kalysea, one 69 scene which involves a futa and a female.

May: Vitra PC preg scenes.

April: 1 scene with Evergreen.

March: Brint/Arona threesome.
For the heck of it, throw in Ryns dungeon content, which makes this month a bit better.

February: Teatime for dragons quest, so a chunk of new Evelyn scenes (havent counted). Azzy (not a futa) has a couple of scenes with her ovi.

January: 1 Kass scene.
Also, Cassidy who's gender is customizable.

So out of...6 months, in 5 of them futa scenes are in the single digits. Mostly the low single digits.

Female scenes absolutely dwarf them. I can't count them atm, but even glancing at the changelog you can see months we probably are sitting close to 20.


You're right in that the issue with content distribution and that it doesn't reflect the NPC numbers; its even MORE skewed in favor of pure females than anything else.

By a lot.
 
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Wait Summon? What summon? I've been there dozens of times and NEVER brought Agni, what did I missed?¡ XD
There's a door that requires you to play an aggressive song. You go in there. Beat the Jotan up. Get a horn. Take it to the summoning circle that evergreen can setup in the wayfort. And after that you'll meet the bard. Maybe there's another step there that I can't remember but~
 

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Thats a straight up lie.
While its possible that they have magical uber engine that they feed text scenes and description where it, uber engine, should put them and such shit, overall architecture of code give obvious hints that chances of it infinitesimal. It most definitely coded by the javascript programmers, that know jack shit about programming, in general term.

Just imagine that somebody builds skyscraper without sewerage system, argumenting it absence with something like 'when we finish it we will add it'. But it will turns out that it reqiure breaking main/bearing walls/floors, creation of additional technical floors, breaking/redesigning from scratch electrical system, etc. It will be building it all from scratch.
Nobody, from those who know how to do it, will do it for....what, 5k $ month?!

Proper mods support requires engine to have more or less working compiler. And its...hard.
Im currently stuck on parsing step (collection and sorting of data with, and by, specific parameters) which looks like this
You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
and it still dont ready for the next step, syntax analysis (look for, and reporting as faulty, all cases of operations like "'this is string' - 13", as an example).

tl;dr savin just 'damage controlling' saying that 'mods will be there'. Dont believe to the man who have disturbingly...disturbing thing for a futa....and that doesnt know anything about programming.



Its possible to implement some kind of mod support (read as 'really bad') by using a source map. Electron (node) is able to interpret and launch it, after all.
But its literally digging into mangled and obfuscated code for a.....what? Its not a skyrim, quake or doom (old) to justify it by the fingertips gameplay. Porn is really 'ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh', unless you have like two or three fetish that overused there. A chance to get shitted on by the devs? There are 4chan for that kind of things. Or even better, twatter....I mean twitter, where such thing is automated.
And thats omitting the fact that its hard, of course. Mapping BEE BOP BIP to minimized values representation, I mean.
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So basically only the avatar master of all four elements can hope to make a mod.... thanks for ruining my dreams quinn
 
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There's a door that requires you to play an aggressive song. You go in there. Beat the Jotan up. Get a horn. Take it to the summoning circle that evergreen can setup in the wayfort. And after that you'll meet the bard. Maybe there's another step there that I can't remember but~
Really? and here I've been playing the soothing song to fight just the Jotun and not the Jotun + cheerleaders, if I had knew I could get something extra...son of an emerald whore, STARTING A NEW GAME!
 
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Well, like I said I wasn't sure about Starhome, but as to the rest of your comment....nah.

As someone who does watch for futa stuff, I've watched whole months go by without a single scene of the stuff.

The scenes you named come with a bunch of asterisks and "technicallys".

Cassidy can be any gender. (And has no futa exclusive scenes).
Lyric too. (And has no futa exclusive scenes).
Berwyn too (and has no futa exclusive scenes.).

And other than that, you're mostly listing a few one offs months apart.

If we were to go month by month for just this year for NPCs....

June: 3 scenes with Kalysea, one 69 scene which involves a futa and a female.

May: Vitra PC preg scenes.

April: 1 scene with Evergreen.

March: Brint/Arona threesome.
For the heck of it, throw in Ryns dungeon content, which makes this month a bit better.

February: Teatime for dragons quest, so a chunk of new Evelyn scenes (havent counted). Azzy (not a futa) has a couple of scenes with her ovi.

January: 1 Kass scene.
Also, Cassidy who's gender is customizable.

So out of...6 months, in 5 of them futa scenes are in the single digits. Mostly the low single digits.

Female scenes absolutely dwarf them. I can't count them atm, but even glancing at the changelog you can see months we probably are sitting close to 20.


You're right in that the issue with content distribution and that it doesn't reflect the NPC numbers; its even MORE skewed in favor of pure females than anything else.

By a lot.
Ughhh, just...ughhh you just....ugh..
Okay, fine, it was discussed one and a half gazilion times, and will be another ten gazilion times. This time I will add that you, in moments like this, looks like a savin in disguise on sedative or like somebody that tries to rationalize something because of the amount of resources he spend on i (aka 'it cant be bad because I wasted X time/money/important resource name on it).

Again, its not about the amount but about the presentation.
First of....elf slut, orc slut...who else?....phoenix? three out of....eight, I guess, of possible player companions is a futa. "So what? not a big deal, just dont interact with them, every companion (excluding cait) is shit anyway!!!!1111"
Okay, okay, yes, I kinda agree with that (question, why men like sluts?)...but Im no done yet...

Lets travel from hawk town to each location.
Without even moving from it inn dominant futa encounter.
Valley of something
Some females, some males, nothing special. But than SUDDENLY futa with a horse dick with an elf fetish. Okay....I guess??? *shrugs*
Mares village. Plot important character, ex village chief, is a futa.Emmm, okay. Is there are more here?.....Manthicore near aforementioned village, but shes like....okay, throw her out in the window, shes not important (I live on the 17 floor btw), fine, okay, ignore her.

Next, wanna be dwarves city. Mountains. Any futas here? No, IIRC. I mean, there are arona, but shes companion so can be ignored. "See, there is no futas at all, why are you so defensive about it?" Did I finished it? No!? Than would you be so kind to stfu pls? Thanks. Now, caves. Any futas here? Gooey smile cat-whatever shes is, kinda? Okay, ignore here, window is there. Minotaur city...salamander bartender is futa and quasi random encounter in bathhouse is futa. Again, straight to the windo, not important...I guess...

Next destination, elf city. First is generic forest. What it possible to encounter there? Some wolves, some demons, some corrupted (no, actually) lupines, generic stuff and SUDDENLY wood/forest elf group with at least one futa and dryads. Emmmm...not important???? You still remember that I live on 17 floor, right!?
So, base of operation aka wayfort. Javelin...jay`lin.....jubilantly?? Not important, so, emm...window????
Forest(2). One time encounter with a futa doggo. Agreed, no really, she can be ignored since after initial encounter she moves to dedicated map spot and are indeed optional. Spider queen, probably, but she doesnt have hard, throbbing, juicy, mouth watering, bitch breaking horse sized dick, only ovipositor so lets ignore her, okay?
Elf city. Any futa here? Excluding plot important (demonic horse dong and aforementioned jay...jabe...gabe newell...and companion butt slut futa elf) none.
Glacier. Cultists encounter, at least one futa. And not just futa but taur futa *wsan rubs his hands behind the corner*. Shark encounter, whole three futas per encounter. Abandoned yothun/ethun/how to type it correctly abandoned character with its futa problems. Shark village/location. Here amount of futas on square centimeter exceeded any know to modern science number.



"So whats the point?" Point is that the amount of 'direct' futas aka futas that can be accessed with minimal efforts are quite high, around....30%???? from entire pool of freely accessible characters. Which is where 'there are literally 99.999999% futas' mistake comes from. I wont discuss more futa related things here, like most of futa personalities goes like 'look at my dick, my dick is amazing, give it lick, it tastes like raisin' because it just justify where initial '>99.99999% futas' take comes from. Amount of scenes per character do nothing here, since all none futa (most, not all, okay) scenes have requirements like 'jump on left leg seven times, turn around counterclokwise three times call to the jesus using skype and than look under your pillow'.
 

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"So whats the point?" Point is that the amount of 'direct' futas aka futas that can be accessed with minimal efforts are quite high, around....30%???? from entire pool of freely accessible characters. Which is where 'there are literally 99.999999% futas' mistake comes from.
Ah, so it's less that there are too many and more that they exist at all, got it.

Etheryn doesn't have a cunt, he's a boy. Fuck off.
Or at least don't label Etheryn as a futa. Because Etheryn is not a futa.
Writer presents her as female with a dick, futa is accurate enough unless you want to be super particular about terminology.
 

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Sandre and Caera, the Blood Knight, Vacia.
Literally who? Dont make me launch this shit again. Please, I have a kids, have mercy!!!!11111

he's a boy
She is actually she.
To be fair she is special case. Savin, in his bottomless wisdom, made her....inconsistent, lets use that word. Shes insecure about her penis, but didnt do anything to get rid of it. Shes wants to be, and be accepted as, female, but, again, didnt do anything, besides choking on a players dick, to reach it. Character whos main character arc is to suffer about who he, character, is....in the most dumb and retarded way possible.

Ah, so it's less that there are too many and more that they exist at all, got it.
Futas are just on foreground, which overshadow everything else, in other words.
Roughly speaking each single futa rub her penis over players face saying 'wanna suck it, lil bitch?' each time player encounter one, while other, non futa, characters goes like 'good evening, sir, good weather for a walk, isnt?'.
 
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