Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.45] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Wrynn13]

I'd say they had pretty much washed their hands of this thread by now but apparently someone had something deleted just the other day. *shrug*

 

[MagnaSonic3000]

The original game had some pretty dark stuff but I think some or most of it was removed at some point & mellowed down a little. So you're saying that HGG doesn't really add many new scenes? The Goblin stuff certainly must have been added tho, I'm 99% sure there was nothing of that caliber as a win-scene. Anyways we probably shouldn't discuss CoC 1 mods in the CoC 2 thread, probably not exactly on topic.

I'm saying I haven't put enough time in to see even all of the vanilla stuff again, so don't judge it too soon.

 

[Orphanus]

I'm saying I haven't put enough time in to see even all of the vanilla stuff again, so don't judge it too soon.

I see, thanks, gotta take a look at it then sometime, especially if the gory stuff isn't mandatory.

 

[jfmherokiller]

i tried the hgg mod but it wasnt furry enough for me. Tho i can say that that somehow my UI remake code made it into the mod.

 

[desmosome]

Posted this on the fen forums under the coc2 gripes section

" If i had to name some "gripes" it has to be the combat.I dont get why devs care about it so much as to keep having patches(like the latest one) dedicated or having many changes to it.Back in coc1 the combat was just the medium used to get the sex scenes and nothing else.And that was perfect,that was how it should be.But now someone can say "But the surrender button exists so you can get the scenes easily so where is the problem?".I agree the surrender button is immensly helpful BUT the problem comes with the existance of these combat related patches.The team behind coc2(devs writers coders etc) is a relatively small team so by dedicating time and recources to making irrelevant patches(Yes i consider combat to be irrelevant since this is a porn game and its only function should be to serve as a medium to have sex.Plus since power fantasy is close to none in the game combat really doesnt matter) they are wasting precious tim,e they could have used to make the game better.So either ignore the combat completely and focus soley on the porn game aspect of a porn game keko or,i dare to say,enable some power fantasy in your fantasy game! "

Now we wait hehe

Combat is the only saving grace for this game. There is no corruption, the main plot moves at a snails pace, and the smut consisting of long essays mostly about futa is not for everyone.

 

[mrttao]

Combat is the only saving grace for this game.

but the combat sucks.

 

[Orphanus]

but the combat sucks.

Yeah, it's too convoluted to just be a means to an end, but at the same time there is nothing to the way it is described which means that there would have to be decent visuals which don't exist at all.

 

[desmosome]

but the combat sucks.

If you think the combat sucks in this game, I don't know what your standards are for an indie game, let alone a porn game.

 

[Comiies]

If you think the combat sucks in this game, I don't know what your standards are for an indie game, let alone a porn game.

My problem isnt that the combat sucks(which it does btw and it being an indie game is not excuse with the amount of money they pull each month) its that they KNOW that nobody gives a fuck and only wants the sex but they choose to focus on it.Thats just them spitting on our face

 

[Orphanus]

My problem isnt that the combat sucks(which it does btw and it being an indie game is not excuse with the amount of money they pull each month) its that they KNOW that nobody gives a fuck and only wants the sex but they choose to focus on it.Thats just them spitting on our face

Well the entire game is self-service of the writers at this point. The targeted audience are themselves, they want to pretend that CoC 2 is a serious RPG first and foremost with the smut being only the secondary aspect and thus they try to create a pointlessly complex combat system ignoring the fact that combat in written form is always challenging to make even remotely engaging, and then they decided to limit the only character who can really choose between a vast array of skills/spells to mostly irrelevant abilities.

 

[MagnaSonic3000]

CoC2 has become the segs equivalent of Star Citizen. Bloat, being funded by broken people who just want a good porn/space game, no real planning outside of make thing eventually, several features crammed into the game that mostly lead to dead ends, and while they haven't really made a side game like SC did, the writers of each OC wants them so hard to be the center of the universe that it feels like you're playing a different plot.

 

[Orphanus]

CoC2 has become the segs equivalent of Star Citizen. Bloat, being funded by broken people who just want a good porn/space game, no real planning outside of make thing eventually, several features crammed into the game that mostly lead to dead ends, and while they haven't really made a side game like SC did, the writers of each OC wants them so hard to be the center of the universe that it feels like you're playing a different plot.

And then add to that the inability of the lead writers to take any criticism to their antics, the biotope they created on their own forums, where they only get to hear completely delusional praise for mediocrity & they also seem to basically work against anyone who is just adding commissions, most notably doing the exact things they get furious about when it comes to their OCs to the "lesser writers" OCs.

 

[Orphanus]

Another note on the combat: There is nothing intricate to it. After the rework there is an entirety of 4 skills in the game with 3 of those having slight variations to them:

1. Deal health damage
1.2 Deal health damage over time

2. Restore health damage
2.1 Restore health damage over time

3. Buff/Debuff to prevent health damage
3.1 Buff/Debuff to increase health damage

4. Summon

But where a game like WoW for example comes with different visuals and therefore flavors for this general concept CoC 2 has combat without any meaningful worded descriptions, therefore making it completely irrelevant which spells and skills you choose & use, therefore reducing the pool to actually just the core effect the abilities have on the health bars/amount of units present in the fight.

 

[Wrynn13]

Most people posting here thinking ill of the game does no make it an echo chamber. People are not attacked for liking it, in fact most probably like at least some aspects of it. Also people defending the game don't find their posts wiped or better yet edited to say something vulgar about themselves, unlike the actual hugbox of the official forums. Most of the focus being negative here pretty much comes from the fact we aren't free to be there. Comments like "I think combat good, you all trolls" isn't engaging in conversation, it's an attack. I won't call the combat good, because I don't think it is, but will at least admit that I've seen worse.

 

[Orphanus]

Comments like "I think combat good, you all trolls" isn't engaging in conversation, it's an attack. I won't call the combat good, because I don't think it is, but will at least admit that I've seen worse.

And the same person complains about the supposed attitude of people who are at least not throwing insults around. Anyways though, yeah, the combat is functional and not overly difficult, it's just also not engaging or interesting to read by any means. The descriptive part (if one can call it that) is fairly cringe & it's far too simplistic to be challenging in regards to the mechanics. The only really tough fights are tough because they have cheap, rng based "one shots" (not necessarily literally, but practically) or some mechanic that can't be solved by fighting anyway and thus have nothing to do with the usage of the available spells and skills.

 

[MagnaSonic3000]

TBH LT's combat is kinda balls too, except it has the opposite problem CoC2 does and is probably more like CoC, you can style on most enemies because you have some kind of setup where you do like 1,000 damage per hit (I've seen it, it's like having Godzilla just step on you). You can also use TF items to overload on stats and just be broken even at level 1. I still think LT has the superior TF system of any TF game.

 

[Wrynn13]

TBH LT's combat is kinda balls too, except it has the opposite problem CoC2 does and is probably more like CoC, you can style on most enemies because you have some kind of setup where you do like 1,000 damage per hit (I've seen it, it's like having Godzilla just step on you). You can also use TF items to overload on stats and just be broken even at level 1. I still think LT has the superior TF system of any TF game.

Certainly better than CoC2 jus because mah Power Fantasy! But mostly because you don't need companions.

 

[Orphanus]

TBH LT's combat is kinda balls too, except it has the opposite problem CoC2 does and is probably more like CoC, you can style on most enemies because you have some kind of setup where you do like 1,000 damage per hit (I've seen it, it's like having Godzilla just step on you). You can also use TF items to overload on stats and just be broken even at level 1. I still think LT has the superior TF system of any TF game.

I only wish the Dev would be able to work on the game more, which I don't mean as a complaint by any means, I know she struggles with life and fully understand why that makes working diligently on the game isn't really in the cards a lot of days. But even LT struggles with really accommodating for the transformations beyond general descriptions on the sex scenes, which is understandable, given how many there are. (At least there are some applications at all like barbs etc. changing the descriptions of how the penetration feels for example).

But yeah the combat is also fairly meh, but at least there are some fun impacts of the talents outside of battle, first and foremost and the fact the visuals of LT are superior helps too.

 

[Basty96]

Despite putting in at least an hour or two into it, the only real change in scenes I've seen so far is during an experimental run to see everything that could be offered, you basically have the option to rape some girl in like a white summer dress or something (I forget what she was wearing), with the option to back out of it if you want. Naturally, the scene paints you out as a creeper since your character just throws her down while she's all confused.

I don't remember if extreme violence was ever in the vanilla game, but if it wasn't, then the hgg mod added it, because I saw a womb fuck option for the goblin girl. And no, it's not one of those extreme penetrations either.

that should be an Alice and don't worry she only plays confused (she's a succubus turned into a loli)

 

[Wrynn13]

Actually being able to fly across the map if you have wings is a major thing. Real TF related combat moves another.