Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.45] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[sugouxxx]

Ok mate lets check your take.
Bend over for me real quick.

Go away savin

 

[Walk Cycle]

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Spoiler: HiredGun comments

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Seriously was that all? The "I don't have a beard" comment and him flexing his military service makes me think the dude was just baiting. When I first heard of the whole Hirrud thing I thought HiredGun stalked Savin relentlessly on the Fen Forums to call him a cuck. Apparently he mostly called Cait a whore (she literally is btw it's part of her religion) and called everyone who likes her a cuck. And that all sounds like bait to me.

 

[sugouxxx]

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Seriously was that all? The "I don't have a beard" comment and him flexing his military service makes me think the dude was just baiting. When I first heard of the whole Hirrud thing I thought HiredGun stalked Savin relentlessly on the Fen Forums to call him a cuck. Apparently he mostly called Cait a whore (she literally is btw it's part of her religion) and called everyone who likes her a cuck. And that all sounds like bait to me.

It took me a few second before I realized that it's not savin who flexing his military service. Now the gif become waste because this is how I think savin in military

 

[smithsmithsmith]

Yeah, the evil content. Yknow the "corruption" in corruption of champions.
What? Is Savins morals too high after making a world thats comprised of constant rape, murder and oh yeah the whore religion that has its worshipers trained from youth in the wholesome method of WHORING.

While I don't disagree that the corruption content in CoC2 is sorely lacking I don't think adding pedo and guro content is the answer.

 

[Biostar]

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I'm not seeing what's creepy here.

 

[Comiies]

While I don't disagree that the corruption content in CoC2 is sorely lacking I don't think adding pedo and guro content is the answer.

Well by definition its an amazing answer + as i said before there is no reason for a mod like that to NOT exist and savin being a pretentious cuck(didnt know these 2 words can go together but here we are) and preaching his moral superiority(Which is illogical because of his previous actions,good example being caits whole thing).While some may find such material distasful or outright psycopathic(Which i dont consider it so cause its fiction but lets not get out of topic here) there are workarounds to this that wont affect the players that WANT this level of corruption and for the players that DONT.We again do a full circle and go back to savin being a helpless coomer that values his miniscule control over a futa furry game so much that he is willing to become a laughing stock in so many ways that it makes even me slightly pity him.(Mind you i am not saying this because i want to do an epic roast on savin or because i want to ridicule him.I am just saying it as it is,because judging from his past and currect actions and behaviors thats what he is.Just a disclaimer for anyone that tries to preach ad hominem on my ass lma)

 

[Orphanus]

By those mod author standards because of:
Being essentially being Fenoxo's "self-insert OC"
How inane she is written
And Amily x Urta fiasco
There might be one or two more things.

Spoiler: A bit of context of Amily x Urta

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[Edit] And no, Fen did not write the scene, it was Amily's author.

Ahh, thank you, I quite literally never ran into that scene but I also think when I finally really played CoC and knew a bit how to progress the story I was already on UE and then went to Xianxia afterwards, but I'm not entirely sure.
From what you describe though I understand the dislike for that scene & also why it would lead to people disliking Urta in general.

It's basically similar to what happens with Kat, but 10x worse, because there at least you can tell Urta to fuck off I think, which removes her from the game as well, but that's more on her.

My biggest gripe with Urta is how buggy her content is, turning her into the player characters SO after just 1 scene (sometimes) and at other times it doesn't properly progress.

Also so far I think I like HGG, didn't notice too many differences but it's cool that the clinic in Tel'Adre is accessible right from the start & I like the talents I'm seeing, even if I can't pick many yet.

Don't think I've seen anything new in regards to lewd content though, but that might as well be my content settings.

 

[smithsmithsmith]

Well by definition its an amazing answer + as i said before there is no reason for a mod like that to NOT exist and savin being a pretentious cuck(didnt know these 2 words can go together but here we are) and preaching his moral superiority(Which is illogical because of his previous actions,good example being caits whole thing).While some may find such material distasful or outright psycopathic(Which i dont consider it so cause its fiction but lets not get out of topic here) there are workarounds to this that wont affect the players that WANT this level of corruption and for the players that DONT.We again do a full circle and go back to savin being a helpless coomer that values his miniscule control over a futa furry game so much that he is willing to become a laughing stock in so many ways that it makes even me slightly pity him.(Mind you i am not saying this because i want to do an epic roast on savin or because i want to ridicule him.I am just saying it as it is,because judging from his past and currect actions and behaviors thats what he is.Just a disclaimer for anyone that tries to preach ad hominem on my ass lma)

The problem is that it deviates so hard from the established content you'd have to devote an insane amount of dev time to accomidate it or handwave the consequences which kind of defeats the purpose. Would anyone in the existing cities actually work with a child raping cannibal, probably not. So now you need to either create new hub areas from scratch or completely rewrite the existing areas to explain that problem away through the champ enacting a hostile takeover and appointing new merchants. But if the champ has this much power already it begs the question of why they're arriving as an unknown threat,you need to build up to that point which means even more writing in transitional phases for areas as they move from working with you happily to hating your guts. You'd also need to probably rewrite the main story since you'd rapidly eclipse Kas as a primary threat. Hence why going for content this extreme is always something done as the primary focus of the game or not at all, see things like LonaRPG where the whole world is built around making this kind of thing possible.

And that's ignoring the simple fact that patreon doesn't allow underage content and guro is so devisive you basically have to pick between courting the guro crowd and literally everyone else.

 

[Cerneu]

Yeah, the evil content. Yknow the "corruption" in corruption of champions.
What? Is Savins morals too high after making a world thats comprised of constant rape, murder and oh yeah the whore religion that has its worshipers trained from youth in the wholesome method of WHORING.

Now, I realize that this might be a difficult concept for some of you to understand, but adding pedoshit and snuff would make it difficult for Savin to keep his patreon.

Pedogarbage ain't allowed on F95Zone either.

 

[Basty96]

Pedogarbage ain't allowed on F95Zone either.

looks at all the loli games on here.
you sure bout dat?

 

[Comiies]

The problem is that it deviates so hard from the established content you'd have to devote an insane amount of dev time to accomidate it or handwave the consequences which kind of defeats the purpose. Would anyone in the existing cities actually work with a child raping cannibal, probably not. So now you need to either create new hub areas from scratch or completely rewrite the existing areas to explain that problem away through the champ enacting a hostile takeover and appointing new merchants. But if the champ has this much power already it begs the question of why they're arriving as an unknown threat,you need to build up to that point which means even more writing in transitional phases for areas as they move from working with you happily to hating your guts. You'd also need to probably rewrite the main story since you'd rapidly eclipse Kas as a primary threat. Hence why going for content this extreme is always something done as the primary focus of the game or not at all, see things like LonaRPG where the whole world is built around making this kind of thing possible.

And that's ignoring the simple fact that patreon doesn't allow underage content and guro is so devisive you basically have to pick between courting the guro crowd and literally everyone else.

Nah thats no problem at all.Skyrim has mods that make the game something completely different from what its supposed to be for example.Savin and co could in fact just completely ignore the modding community and let them go blow themselves up with whatever weird shit they wish to write since THEY are doing all the work(writing the scenes they want and tampering with this god awful code).The OG game and coc2 mod ver can be(and would if savin and co werent savin and co) 2 completely different communities with different people.If savin or any other writer doesnt want to write/code whatever crazy shit anon wants to add to the game then so be it.They dont have to do it.The 2 communities can be 2 completely seperate things and could just simply not interact with one another.I really dont see where the problem is other that savin and Co ego being inflated.

Essentially what i wanna say is that since anons from around the world are doing ALL the work(cough cough not like that doesnt happen with the OG fen games) there is NO argument against modding other than pitiful attempts to protect their inflated ego.

 

[Alterism]

If you think the combat sucks in this game, I don't know what your standards are for an indie game, let alone a porn game.

Now. Before I begin. I'm going to stroke my own... degeneracy for a second and state that I have played a... rather substantial amount of turn based RPGs. It'd be easier to list the ones I haven't played out of all that exist.

Spoiler: Combat

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Less 'creepy'. More 'abrasive'

That madman produced a bunch of interesting posts.

All those 2019ish comment sections were full of comedy. I don't even think HiredGun got banned. I think he just disappeared. Man was single handedly responsible for like 3 spite projects including his own character and questline.

Yeah, the evil content. Yknow the "corruption" in corruption of champions.

That's not corruption. That's a gaggle of nonsense that's being confused with corruption because of how counter it is to the views of the majority of people who play this game.

Unless you're on the spectrum of flavor that you somehow get off on guro(and mind you I'm not ordinarily one to kink shame but even I've got my limits), their exclusion should be considered common sense. If you want corruption like in CoC1 then talk about the corruption that's IN CoC1. Not some of the less ideal edgy repulsive stuff added thanks to the open source nature of the (virtually now defunct) modding community.

Even the thought of adding a harsher edge then what already exists is ludicrous. CoC1 absolutely flirted with that line (specifically corrupt Sheila's 1 god awful scene) but generally remained a game that somebody could reasonably find arrousing. Adding a bunch of murder and other non erotic nonsense 'just cause' is ridiculous. And it's counterproductive to any real discussion when the point being brought forward is
"hey this game with a sequel that was NEVER that extreme, is now that extreme."

Come on, now.

 

[Cerneu]

I'm not seeing what's creepy here.

Tell me you're a kiss-less virgin without telling me you're a kiss-less virgin.

If you don't see anything wrong with the way he talks about women, then I guess you also find Hirrud's personality to be endearing.

looks at all the loli games on here.
you sure bout dat?

I wasn't talking about loli games. Go re-read the forum rules. Then try to think hard why a text-based game can't add "loli" content.

 

[YouShallNotLol]

The hgg mod adding pedo/psycho shit is an example of the better content that CoC2 sorely needs?

My fucking God. Can you stop repeating shit you heard from some random dude again and again? Like, go and fucking play HGG mod before criticizing it for things you don't even know are true or not.

 

[Comiies]

Now. Before I begin. I'm going to stroke my own... degeneracy for a second and state that I have played a... rather substantial amount of turn based RPGs. It'd be easier to list the ones I haven't played out of all that exist.

Spoiler: Combat

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Less 'creepy'. More 'abrasive'

That madman produced a bunch of interesting posts.

All those 2019ish comment sections were full of comedy. I don't even think HiredGun got banned. I think he just disappeared. Man was single handedly responsible for like 3 spite projects including his own character and questline.

That's not corruption. That's a gaggle of nonsense that's being confused with corruption because of how counter it is to the views of the majority of people who play this game.

Unless you're on the spectrum of flavor that you somehow get off on guro(and mind you I'm not ordinarily one to kink shame but even I've got my limits), their exclusion should be considered common sense. If you want corruption like in CoC1 then talk about the corruption that's IN CoC1. Not some of the less ideal edgy repulsive stuff added thanks to the open source nature of the (virtually now defunct) modding community.

Even the thought of adding a harsher edge then what already exists is ludicrous. CoC1 absolutely flirted with that line (specifically corrupt Sheila's 1 god awful scene) but generally remained a game that somebody could reasonably find erousing. Adding a bunch of murder and other non erotic nonsense 'just cause' is ridiculous. And it's counterproductive to any real discussion when the point being brought forward is
"hey this game with a sequel that was NEVER that extreme, is now that extreme."

Come on, now.

First hired gun was extremely based and im sad that he dissapeared since the fen forum comment section was usefull for once lma.Second i have to agree that just searching "most morally questionable fetishes" and just writing them on a mod for coc2 is indeed low quality but i think the problem that most have(me included) isnt that we cannot do that,its that no mod is allowed.Sure i dont like guro or whatever random fetish anon decides to obsess over for this week until he dies of a heart attack from too much masturbation but the fact that we can do NOTHING in the mod department is what ironically causes this desire to make such rotten mods(granted unhinged anons will exist but i bet less people would be on board if savin was less savin).

Now for the positivity of the post since i dont like vilifying people more than necessary.I think or at least i hope that if savin decided to reduce his ego and let modders do their thing,and reach some kind of middle ground where the modders can do what they do best,mod the fuck out of the game BUT to ensure limited backlash and conflict from both sides to keep the guro loli rape fetish at a minimum.That would require savin to apologize and reduce his ego but i like to be idealistic once upon a blue moon.

TLDR Guro loli porn aint true corruption cause its both badly written(aka no start no middle and especially no finish etc) and its just anons way of getting off.I want for people to be able to do that(mod the game into whatever they want) but i also want quality content FROM the long awaited mods.Only options i see is either anons get to continue being anons and people just avoid those mods(which if we think about how dead the modding scene of the game is its...unlikely that more dedicated people will come forth that DONT want loli guro porn and such but i can hope) and let the other people make their own mods

 

[smithsmithsmith]

Nah thats no problem at all.Skyrim has mods that make the game something completely different from what its supposed to be for example.

Essentially what i wanna say is that since anons from around the world are doing ALL the work(cough cough not like that doesnt happen with the OG fen games) there is NO argument against modding other than pitiful attempts to protect their inflated ego.

So you just want unexplained and unconnected edgy content? I don't understand, why not just go play something like Lona RPG if you don't care about it being intergrated into the existing world at all?

 

[Raf-Raf]

So you just want unexplained and unconnected edgy content? I don't understand, why not just go play something like Lona RPG if you don't care about it being intergrated into the existing world at all?

Think you're missing the point they trynna make.
They just want modders to be left alone, let 'em make whatever bullshit they wanna make and mind their own business.
But good luck with that, these skinwalkers are worse than purists.

 

[Orphanus]

So you just want unexplained and unconnected edgy content? I don't understand, why not just go play something like Lona RPG if you don't care about it being intergrated into the existing world at all?

Not sure what gave you the impression the user wants that sort of stuff, from what I understand they explain why it's logical for mods to contain things like that, given the Devs' reactions to modding of the game in general. They also say it would be far more interesting if there were quality mods with actual content instead of just throwing in the most derisive stuff imaginable.

 

[Biostar]

I don't get this need to police what a mod can't or shouldn't have added. It's not official so the staff can stay as squeaky clean as they believe they are, it's free, and it's not hosted where it's content will get banned for it. Who cares if you find the content unarousing or unnecessary. If someone who wants it puts the effort to write and code the stuff, and as along it's always optional, then they should be free to do so. Don't play the content you're not into, like we've been doing since the start. All this moralizing and sacred cow shit for a porn game is retarded.

 

[Comiies]

So you just want unexplained and unconnected edgy content? I don't understand, why not just go play something like Lona RPG if you don't care about it being intergrated into the existing world at all?

No i want modders to be able to mod.Thats as far as it goes really.As i said i am relatively optimistic in my way of thinking that if savin and co apologized then the amount of people that wanted to mod the game out of spite to add loli guro stuff would significantly decrease but thats besides the point.I just want modders to mod,thats all