Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.45] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[NODOGAN]

You know, this might be a little off-topic at the moment since we're talking about Cait but there's something that's bothering me - like a sort of nagging at the back of my head. Do you think The Observer is ever going to get triggered over the idea of people intentionally keeping Kiyoko and your children in the amber orb in order to avoid all the potential drama that's involved with letting them out. (If I remember correctly, Kiyoko and the children turn against you during one of the festivals that the fox den holds in order to fit in with all their clan-mates, and Kinu starts to think that you're a terrible father somewhere down the line.)

So, in order to punish people for keeping Kiyoko in the orb he might create a sort of system where if you have cleared the initial kitsune den quest and have collected the amber orb you'll get a dream from Keros warning you that you only have 50 days to come to him and release Kiyoko from the orb or "something bad" will happen to you. Should you ignore this warning, once the 50 days are up you'll get a bad ending where Kiyoko and all the children you've had together are freed from the orb, but in return you're trapped inside of it for all eternity. I'm sure The Observer could mine quite a lot of salt by doing something devious like this.

This wouldn't affect people who have had Kiyoko in the orb for hundreds of days, since you need to have the warning dream from Keros in order to start the timer but once you've had that dream you'll only have said 50 days in order to let Kiyoko and everyone else out. I hope I'm not giving The Observer any ideas with this premonition of mine but it's just a bad feeling I've been having for a while.

Dude shut the hell up, don't give them ideas xD

 

[Orphanus]

so i found the design doc of the game

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. it sounds a lot nicer in some aspects then what we currently have.

Funnily enough it contains basically all the things that nowadays these hacks claim are inconceivable to ask of them, like actually having a say in who YOUR OWN CHARACTER THAT YOU YOURSELF CREATE THIRSTS AFTER!!!! Reading that made me seriously angry for once...

 

[NODOGAN]

Meh, the only thing that *I* personally don't like about Viviane is that I believe you as the player are required to go through her dream sequence in order to even officially meet her for the first time, let alone even think about recruiting her as a companion down the line.

Now while I'm sure some people are into being bound, gagged and dominated by a sexy and voluptuous red-headed witch as punishment for picking up her old outfit that she just left out lying in the woods, I wish there was a way to turn the tables on her in said dream sequence. However, Savin and company are extremely against power fantasies and like I said if you don't go through Viviane's initial dream sequence I don't think you can ever meet her for the first time.

While I do enjoy being dominated by one of the bustiest NOT-horse futas around you do make a fair point (which is even all the more fair when you consider that certain RED someone we met recently claimed she would fuck our souls out of our bodies, idk the MC should have the option for a more rebellious attitude about being bound and dommed in the middle of the night.)

 

[Wrynn13]

Funnily enough it contains basically all the things that nowadays these hacks claim are inconceivable to ask of them, like actually having a say in who YOUR OWN CHARACTER THAT YOU YOURSELF CREATE THIRSTS AFTER!!!! Reading that made me seriously angry for once...

It's typical Savin sadly. Grandiose plans torpedoed by laziness and when called out on it turns to pure spite.

 

[Orphanus]

It's typical Savin sadly. Grandiose plans torpedoed by laziness and when called out on it turns to pure spite.

It's sad, really, the guy wrote some of my favorite scenes and NPCs in all 3 of the games. But he developed an attitude that is just kinda pathetic at times. :/

 

[jfmherokiller]

funfact that design doc was actually on the main page of the wiki all the way at the bottom

 

[MogwaiKupo]

Honestly I still want to see how TOB would have written Kiyoko and Kinu if she was able to get a dick and make the PC the mother of the family. then again I generally mostly engage with the game as a female PC and I barely bothered with most of the Kitsune stuff besides getting the waypoint and Jstar's character who is well written imo

I'm genuinely curious how the Kiyoko/Kinu situation would handled be if Tobs actually let you pass the orb off to Brint, Quin, or Arona. On one hand Kiyoko wouldn't interact with you ever because if it doesn't pertain to the Kitsune she couldn't care less about it. But all the Kitsune drama, Kinu and Kiyoko's more awful traits would be their problem. Bonus points because 2 out of 3 of those options are deadbeats who have bastards and I'm 99% sure Quin wouldn't make a good parent either. Be funny having him try to write a reason for the Champ to care about KinuQuest and the like.

"Hey Dad's friend did I tell you that some weird Taoth worshipper snuck into the den and set fire to me and my siblings' home"

"Oh my, I'm sorry Kinu, but why aren't you telling Brint about this"

"I tried, halfway through he just shrugged and said sucks to suck Asagiri and dragged mom into their home, I can still hear their moans."

There, Tob gets his deadbeat dad, and we don't have to deal with his "realistic" characters just too get a party member.
But alas, he couldn't call people attracted to Kinu incestuous or turn her into a spite project so we know that option was never on the table.

Kind of funny though, Atugia got a whole new recruitment path and turned into one of the 3 mandatory party members because people were miffed you were forced to sleep with her. But Kiyoko exists with the same exact problem, yet she persists because her entire character revolves around you being the father of her child.

Funnily enough it contains basically all the things that nowadays these hacks claim are inconceivable to ask of them, like actually having a say in who YOUR OWN CHARACTER THAT YOU YOURSELF CREATE THIRSTS AFTER!!!! Reading that made me seriously angry for once...

But how could they write your character drooling over their dmpcs if you weren't a polyamorous pansexual who was in to everything and anything, it's just inconceivable.

 

[thecatcameback]

"Hey Dad's friend did I tell you that some weird Taoth worshipper snuck into the den and set fire to me and my siblings' home"

"Oh my, I'm sorry Kinu, but why aren't you telling Brint about this"

"I tried, halfway through he just shrugged and said sucks to suck Asagiri and dragged mom into their home, I can still hear their moans."

Asagiri is coming to to the Champ because Brint knocked up Kiyoko nine hundred times but then the player genderswapped Brint, lol. Kiyoko is turned on/furious since she's a cuckquean. Kinu is just mad.

 

[arls120]

No thanks, Tobs better forget Brint exists.

I may accept any male content out of necessity but I'm not that desperate either XD.

 

[nnjagnga333]

Looking at the changelog proper and going through some new event changes, Imma say that the hgg mod isn't just little girl touching and literal womb fucking. I think people who only see that, ignoring the toggles that turn them off, are about as simplistic as the guy who couldn't get past the Cuphead tutorial. Some of the changes allow people to beat the asses of people some have come to despise, either due to some fuckery preventing you from doing anything, or something that seems to turn the brain off for your champion, as if you weren't already planning to tan their ass when you won. The above Akbal fuck getting his ass rocked and then promptly raped by a champion who rightfully earned their ability to tell him to sit the fuck down is a pretty glowing example of telling all these snowflake writers to fuck off.

I don't mind writers getting stuck to their OC, but I fucking despise when they decide that a certain character is invincible for arbitrary purposes. It doesn't work for what, plot reasons? Everyone you beat ends up being punished by the player because that's the law of the land. Might makes right. If you kill your foe in battle, then clearly you were always in the right. Being locked out of abusing someone after a rightful victory is completely out of character for the entire fucking universe. That's lore breaking for the sake of hurt fee fees. You know what we call an unrapeable enemy even though we put in the effort to take him down? POWER FANTASY!

So I don't even wanna hear it.

What mod is this?

 

[Quintilus]

I'm 99% sure Quin wouldn't make a good parent

Yo, would you be so kind to shut the fuck up!? Thanks.

 

[smithsmithsmith]

What mod is this?

Hgg, it's a CoC1 mod by 4chaners that adds in edgy content and tweaks combat a bunch, wouldn't bother unless you have a burning hatred for some NPCs or really enjoy guro/pedo content.

 

[YouShallNotLol]

Hgg, it's a CoC1 mod by 4chaners that adds in edgy content and tweaks combat a bunch, wouldn't bother unless you have a burning hatered for some NPCs or really enjoy guro/pedo content.

You remind me of ToBS.

 

[nnjagnga333]

Hgg, it's a CoC1 mod by 4chaners that adds in edgy content and tweaks combat a bunch, wouldn't bother unless you have a burning hatred for some NPCs or really enjoy guro/pedo content.

Oh, the first game. Wasn't really a fan of that one - was hoping somebody actually wrote something interesting for 2, like a fix for the whole absentee father nonsense with kiyoko, or something for one of the characters the writers refuse to write anything / anything good for.

 

[smithsmithsmith]

Oh, the first game. Wasn't really a fan of that one - was hoping somebody actually wrote something interesting for 2, like a fix for the whole absentee father nonsense with kiyoko, or something for one of the characters the writers refuse to write anything / anything good for.

I wouldn't expect anything serious in that department until the game is done which could be anywhere from five years to never. The current project leads are not mod friendly so even besides keeping up with whatever changes they might make any prospective modder also might have to deal with intentional barriers to break said mods. It's not impossible but I doubt many will think it's worth the effort until they can at least bank on updates not breaking things.

 

[Venyas]

You know, this might be a little off-topic at the moment since we're talking about Cait but there's something that's bothering me - like a sort of nagging at the back of my head. Do you think The Observer is ever going to get triggered over the idea of people intentionally keeping Kiyoko and your children in the amber orb in order to avoid all the potential drama that's involved with letting them out. (If I remember correctly, Kiyoko and the children turn against you during one of the festivals that the fox den holds in order to fit in with all their clan-mates, and Kinu starts to think that you're a terrible father somewhere down the line.)

So, in order to punish people for keeping Kiyoko in the orb he might create a sort of system where if you have cleared the initial kitsune den quest and have collected the amber orb you'll get a dream from Keros warning you that you only have 50 days to come to him and release Kiyoko from the orb or "something bad" will happen to you. Should you ignore this warning, once the 50 days are up you'll get a bad ending where Kiyoko and all the children you've had together are freed from the orb, but in return you're trapped inside of it for all eternity. I'm sure The Observer could mine quite a lot of salt by doing something devious like this.

This wouldn't affect people who have had Kiyoko in the orb for hundreds of days, since you need to have the warning dream from Keros in order to start the timer but once you've had that dream you'll only have said 50 days in order to let Kiyoko and everyone else out. I hope I'm not giving The Observer any ideas with this premonition of mine but it's just a bad feeling I've been having for a while.

I don't think, I wholeheartedly believe that this scenario is INEVITABLE given enough time, and added the fact that COC 2 might never be finnished, I think it is inevitable period. (and no, you gave no1 any new ideeas, only pointed to the elephant in the room, so to speak)

PS: That whole ideea about Brint being the father I read in the last 2 pages, loved it, free us of the foxes, first time in my life I would say yes in the NTR option.

 

[Venyas]

But chicken wings from KFC are also shit...

As with most things, it depends on the country you buy them from.

 

[Walk Cycle]

PS: That whole idea about Brint being the father I read in the last 2 pages, loved it, free us of the foxes, first time in my life I would say yes in the NTR option.

Does it really count as NTR if Brint sires Kinu? To people that played through Kiyoko/Kinu content that would be more like a "bullet dodged" moment. I imagine Brint talking to the Champion and saying "Yeah, saving that fox princess from that ball was a huge fucking mistake, half of the people in this tree treats me like a whelp and the other half crinkles their nose like I took a shit in front them! The bad thing is my wife is from the first half and my own damn child is in the latter!"

 

[Venyas]

Does it really count as NTR if Brint sires Kinu? To people that played through Kiyoko/Kinu content that would be more like a "bullet dodged" moment. I imagine Brint talking to the Champion and saying "Yeah, saving that fox princess from that ball was a huge fucking mistake, half of the people in this tree treats me like a whelp and the other half crinkles their nose like I took a shit in front them! The bad thing is my wife is from the first half and my own damn child is in the latter!"

By the people on f95 it would, indeed, be NTR. By the people that played the foxes content, you would be right, it would count as Brint taking a bullet for us.

 

[Venyas]

I'm getting Shadowlands vibes from CoC2's main villain since they somehow came from Mareth via portal shenanigans.
It just feels like out of left field and now they're this Jailer version of a villain.

Is it weird that I actually like Kass? I mean, in a world where the MC is a throaway sock to most secondary characters, Kass and fem Brint sometimes feels like the only chars that give a flying fuck about the MC.