Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.47] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Skandranon]

When you start making a profit it stops being art and becomes a product in which case the wants of the customers becomes more important than your "vision."

I could not possibly disagree more with this statement.

This is how we get shitty...well, everything. This is how we get AAA monotone gruel. Catering exclusively to what the greatest number of people want is basically cause of everything bad in any form of entertainment media.

 

[Quintilus]

people

Are they?

When you start making a profit it stops being art and becomes a product in which case the wants of the customers becomes more important than your "vision."

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... I would say authors vision is what sells name in the fist place. Coc2 was a sequel to coc1 aka authors vision on a coc1 theme but now its anal carnival without any development direction aka authors vision on...Im not sure what....on devs kinks/insecurity (tobs case)???

exclusively to what the greatest number of people want

Ohh, and how many people wanted to get rid of berwin?! Come on, Ben Shapiro, destroy me with facts and logic the insiders information on the amount of angry berwin haters. Or that was not 'exclusively what the greatest number of people want'??

To make it clear, and to not sound like a hypocrite, 'writing a coc sequal' and 'writing stuff that I (developer) like' is two big differences. Long long ago, a whole 5 years ago, it was 'writing a coc sequal' which means 'here demons, demons are bad, kinda, stop the demons, get all the babes without taking your right hand out of your pants champ' but now its 'writing stuff that I (developer) like' which is 'I like sex wife, Imma gonna add more content to the slutty cat...oh and also futas..yes futas, bunch of futas, I like futas, very good, yes, excellent...oh and also you, player, is a bad parrent, like 0 stars do not recommend not as described really disappointed (I should probably stop doing that SEO joke)'.

 

[harem.king]

IDK which content you've been playing but there's plenty of content for Straight Male players, just of the top of my head I can name: Cait, Atugia, Gwynn, Hethia, Elthara, Daliza, Aileh, Drifa, Kiyoko, ALL the harpies, Atani, Vivianne, Hrethra, Infrith, Vari, Vatia, Hellhound, Nihara, Cassia, Brienne, Wynne, Matiha, Clementine...I could keep naming but you get my point .

1. you... do understand what the words "significant minority" and "primarily" mean, right?
Because you seem to be confusing "significant minority" with the words "token" or "none" even though they have other completely different meaning.

2. also, some of your examples are so shallow they literally do not have a name. (the harpies). This is a text game with a huge writing team and years in development. You would expect more depth than "here is bitch number 34. she has no name. if you defeat her in combat you can fuck her"

 

[Quintilus]

bitch number 34

Bitch number 34 sucks ass man. Bitch number 76 is much better.

 

[NODOGAN]

2. also, some of your examples are so shallow they literally do not have a name. (the harpies). This is a text game with a huge writing team and years in development. You would expect more depth than "here is bitch number 34. she has no name. if you defeat her in combat you can fuck her"

So just because I named the harpies you gonna ignore the other 22 named characters? ok cool.

P.S: Not trying to overly defend the game, I agree with you on the fact there's too many futa around (could be worse tho, it could be TiTS where 9 in 10 characters have a penis attached to them) but if you want that much depth in a relationship maybe you'll be better off playing a Visual Novel?

Just saying, we're supossed to be traveling and doing quests here ala standard fantasy adventure game, can't exacly dump it all to go have a nice cottage with Brienne where we have amazing sex everyday and make an entire sidequest over building the place and turning it into a steady source of income (as much as "Sexy Cow Wife simulator" appeals to me.)

 

[Based Department]

So any update on when the alternative to the shitty cat temple kas scenes are coming?

 

[Rocky Pineapple Rhythm]

Soon™

 

[harem.king]

So just because I named the harpies you gonna ignore the other 22 named characters? ok cool.

I cannot facepalm enough...
I didn't "ignore".
I literally addressed it in both point 1 and point 2.

point 1 being that you are trying to strawman it into me saying this game has no straight male MC content.
When I literally used the word "significant" to describe that content demographic amount.

This is important, because you are acting like it is my duty to refute your claims that "there is content for straight male MC"
When... it is literally a thing I said in the first place.

point 2 was just an aside, it was NOT a refutation of your (and my own) claim that there is straight male MC content.
You also failed reading it because it was not just about the harpies.
The harpies were an example of some of the worst offenders on your list. (being literally nameless). they are not even the only literally nameless character on the list, there is also "Hellhound".
Others on the list have a name, but are still shallow.
But again, this is not a refutation of "this game has straight male MC content".

 

[jfmherokiller]

i know this game wont get the almost skyrim level of modding the original game got but I can really see the barebones of a good sequal. Plus I may also find a way to readd save importing from coc1.

 

[yuzuyo]

"These examples are not valid because I said so, also, they're shallow"

You don't even know how to make a reasonable point.

This idiotic discussion has been brought up only god knows how many times, and only god knows how many times the "reason" for this tantrum has been disproven.

No, futas are not that frequent and that is a fact. There's a list of characters because people actually counted them, so your "opinion" is irrelevant.

The futa hidden inside your closet and underneath your bed are not part of the game.

 

[Wrynn13]

Number of characters and amount of content characters have are not the same thing. A game can have dozens of female characters and still have three futas dominate in amount of content. Guess which group will seem like they are the focus.

 

[yuzuyo]

Where is the proof, then? I'm waiting for any of you to show me. One side has numbers, the other side has fuck all. Claims are not proof.

The person who writes the most, Tobs, doesn't even write futas.

 

[Martin2]

Number of characters and amount of content characters have are not the same thing. A game can have dozens of female characters and still have three futas dominate in amount of content. Guess which group will seem like they are the focus.

the characters that have the most content are Kiyoko, Brienne and Cait. the only girl with a penis that has a lot of content is Etheryn.

 

[smithsmithsmith]

Number of characters and amount of content characters have are not the same thing. A game can have dozens of female characters and still have three futas dominate in amount of content. Guess which group will seem like they are the focus.

Damn, I wish it felt like it. Havn't downloaded a build since mid June when Wsan added the druid.

 

[Skandranon]

And as we've gone over many times, female characters also get more content, more updates, and more attention.

We've gotten two futa characters this whole year so far.

Kalysea with her 3 scenes, and Annika with iirc 8ish.

And at the same time as Annika, we got two other valks AND Lumia, all with around the same amount of content. All of course female.

For Mayternity? One futa got any scenes at all. The rest was entirely for female NPCs.

How many marriages do we have with futa characters? None.
We have 1 with a dude and another coming up with Brint, and several either in game or incoming for females.

No cute babies with futa characters. No dates or significant non sexual content.

Arona, our only futa companion, hasn't had a hint of a quest incoming since she dropped.

And so on and so forth, it goes approximately the same every month with any metric you use. Heck let me quote myself:

If we were to go month by month for just this year for NPCs....

June: 3 scenes with Kalysea, one 69 scene which involves a futa and a female.

May: Vitra PC preg scenes.

April: 1 scene with Evergreen.

March: Brint/Arona threesome.
For the heck of it, throw in Ryns dungeon content, which makes this month a bit better.

February: Teatime for dragons quest, so a chunk of new Evelyn scenes (havent counted). Azzy (not a futa) has a couple of scenes with her ovi.

January: 1 Kass scene.
Also, Cassidy who's gender is customizable.

So out of...6 months, in 5 of them futa scenes are in the single digits. Mostly the low single digits.

Female scenes absolutely dwarf them. I can't count them atm, but even glancing at the changelog you can see months we probably are sitting close to 20.


You're right in that the issue with content distribution and that it doesn't reflect the NPC numbers; its even MORE skewed in favor of pure females than anything else.

By a lot.

We consistently get 3-4 times the amount of female content as futa.

This doesn't change if you count number if NPCs, amount of content, amount of updates, etc.

This game...is absolutely not futa focused. Never has been. Doesn't have nearly enough to justify that.

The vast, vast, VAST majority of content in this game is banging straight female characters, and it's not close.

 

[arls120]

And as we've gone over many times, female characters also get more content, more updates, and more attention.

We've gotten two futa characters this whole year so far.

Kalysea with her 3 scenes, and Annika with iirc 8ish.

And at the same time as Annika, we got two other valks AND Lumia, all with around the same amount of content. All of course female.

For Mayternity? One futa got any scenes at all. The rest was entirely for female NPCs.

How many marriages do we have with futa characters? None.
We have 1 with a dude and another coming up with Brint, and several either in game or incoming for females.

No cute babies with futa characters. No dates or significant non sexual content.

Arona, our only futa companion, hasn't had a hint of a quest incoming since she dropped.

And so on and so forth, it goes approximately the same every month with any metric you use. Heck let me quote myself:




We consistently get 3-4 times the amount of female content as futa.

This doesn't change if you count number if NPCs, amount of content, amount of updates, etc.

This game...is absolutely not futa focused. Never has been. Doesn't have nearly enough to justify that.

The vast, vast, VAST majority of content in this game is banging straight female characters, and it's not close.

And Brint's marriage content is only due to brienne XD

 

[Biostar]

The person who writes the most, Tobs, doesn't even write futas.

I'm sure it would be as limp and dry as his other stuff.

 

[NODOGAN]

the characters that have the most content are Kiyoko, Brienne and Cait. the only girl with a penis that has a lot of content is Etheryn.

Just to play devil's advocate I would say the Futas with the most content are both Etheryn and Arona, but yeah Brienne, Cait and Kiyoko do have the most content
Hell, to some minor extend NPCs such as Hethia (Elf Druid), Ragnild (Orc Blacksmith) and Daliza (Elf Bailif) do have quests of their own and a path you must follow to unlock romance options rather than just "hi new face, let's fuck" on the first meeting.

 

[Quintilus]

I'm sure it would be as limp and dry as his other stuff.

Just add a bit of salt and it would be good...at least for the first several bites.

 

[MagnaSonic3000]

I'm sure it would be as limp and dry as his other stuff.

He'll have to take you through a whole biology course to remind you how a penis works. Since Tobs tries to be rEaLiStIc, he can't actually justify writing a futa once he learns that a person with that condition is most likely sterile. You can't actually be two things at once, your reproductive system basically relapses on itself and neither end up functioning.