Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.45] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Alterism]

That's why most people don't draw any distinctions, because there are none.

For you because you hate everything in the category. So do I. But there's still differences.

Or at least, there's difference enough for that to be one of the things they're addressing with that tag overhaul for this website.

Just means I blacklist more things when I search for games, but I get it.

I'm just doing my part to not do the same fuckup with labels that roguelikes did for half a decade. Where everything with procedural generation and permadeath was called a roguelike. Yet that descriptor does nothing to let you know what you're getting into when everything is called it. As an example, this:

Isn't even remotely equivalent in gameplay to this

Nowadays we have roguelike, rougelite, and traditional roguelike. All of that could have been avoided if those nimrods got their own category.

Where was I? Oh yeah.
I'm just playing ball, man.
Back when I used to peruse the official channels you'd see all kinds of nomenclature tossed about to avoid people labelling themselves as the thing they are.

 

[Deleted member 1368228]

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As you can tell by my avatar, I look and act like this.

Still can't stand the kitsune in this game, though.

 

[zwere]

For you because you hate everything in the category. So do I. But there's still differences.

Or at least, there's difference enough for that to be one of the things they're addressing with that tag overhaul for this website.

Just means I blacklist more things when I search for games, but I get it.

I'm just doing my part to not do the same fuckup with labels that roguelikes did for half a decade. Where everything with procedural generation and permadeath was called a roguelike. Yet that descriptor does nothing to let you know what you're getting into when everything is called it. As an example, this:

Isn't even remotely equivalent in gameplay to this

Nowadays we have roguelike, rougelite, and traditional roguelike. All of that could have been avoided if those nimrods got their own category.

Where was I? Oh yeah.
I'm just playing ball, man.
Back when I used to peruse the official channels you'd see all kinds of nomenclature tossed about to avoid people labelling themselves as the thing they are.

The truth is, definitions and categories always have been and always will be nebulous at best. While people might not agree on the nitty gritty details of what constitutes NTR or a roguelike, if you tell them something has NTR or is a roguelike, they'll know what to expect. I recently went back and played Deus Ex and was reminded of how retarded the name of that genre of games is: immersive sim. You'll never get a consensus if you decided to shrink the definition to its most minimalist "pure" form, always cast a wide net, unless you really enjoy just screaming into the void I guess.

The thing that supports my argument the best is this: the ones who come up with these definitions aren't linguisticians or scholars, they're coined by some influencial rando and adopted by the masses so by default it can't be as rigid as some people want it to be. There is no basis for it.

 

[Biostar]

There's a decent amount of 3p or group scenes but barely anything that happens without the player's direct involvement.

The problem are the threesome scenes that treat you like a voyeur instead of the center of attention. Recent example being the EtherynxArona threesome scenes that is just you getting sucked off while they're fucking each other and talking dirty to each other while you're ignored most of the time. Point of having a threesome is fucking two people at once, not watching them do it, but the cuck writers fail to see the problem.

 

[Alterism]

but the cuck writers fail to see the problem

Instead of not seeing the problem...

Hmm.

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Recent example being the EtherynxArona threesome scenes that is just you getting sucked off while they're fucking each other and talking dirty to each other while you're ignored most of the time.

For that scene in particular, she smooches face with you and you're getting a blowie while you spitroast Arona. Most of them have the NPC as an interactive equal part of that relationship. NPC centric or not, they're some of the few scenes where the focus is clearly on an NPC yet the PC isn't just an actionless background character

But goodness if they don't push the poly with all the subtlety of a punch to the face

If you're into that, they're not written bad. I think. Hard to judge things you're not into impartially but... Anyways, I can't say I'll ever align with Savin's fetishes for anal, dickgirls, and poly. But, his talent as a writer for a porn game's porn scenes is rather good.

As you can tell by my avatar, I look and act like this.

Still can't stand the kitsune in this game, though.

I mean.
We're comparing the traditional fun race where they mistfy you, have fun quirks, are generally lighthearted in nearly every setting, in porn get your rocks off, and maybe fall in love depending on the story you're reading from games in this space to old folktales to...

to...
I mean you visit the tree:

• Everybody tries to brutalize you with no room or time for an explanation
• That fox band you helped won't even remotely attempt to help you through this scenario in a way that actually matters
• if they win they forcefully kill your ego, genderbend you, and force you into marriage and likely life of servitude as a mother to edge the fox
• The elder was cursed into an eternal punishment stated to be worse than death
• One of the denizens was turned into bacon because of politics
• Edge the fox clearly hates you
• Drunk the fox exists to fuck all the other NPCs and be abrasive to the PC. But, it's okay because they're all thots including the potential mother of your children:
  
• Your cute daughter time warps into a Mary Sue stranger with a marriage you as the filthy foreigner get to do nothing with including meeting the groom in any official capacity. (Damn Tobs, not even having him visit you on a date with your daughter? I would have been pummeled to a pulp for being so brazen)
• The roaming foxes aren't tricksters at all who get what they want through trickery but roaming gangs of rapists who use whacky moon logic; if you get your rocks off, it was an equivalent trade
• You find out that their tree is what's killing the hippie elf tree gods (except not really it was hippie elf targeting mushroom ancient evil all along!)
• Treated like an outsider by nearly everybody involved

Anyways, I'm not saying you can't cover more serious themes in a porn game. But, man... My big thing is maids and while the maids in this game commit every single sin that exists even they weren't mangled as hard as kitsune were.

 

[zwere]

You're right, BubbleLord, real life sucks. But not in the way you think. It sucks not in that some pretentious twat thinks that emulating real life is peak fiction, it sucks in that such pretentious twats are capable of inserting themselves in a porn game and contaminate the minds of others with their stupidity.

 

[Raf-Raf]

Wow, even more and better reasons to NEVER approve of the fox den's existence in the first place~~~

 

[Deviton123]

You're right, BubbleLord, real life sucks. But not in the way you think. It sucks not in that some pretentious twat thinks that emulating real life is peak fiction, it sucks in that such pretentious twats are capable of inserting themselves in a porn game and contaminate the minds of others with their stupidity.

The dude has even been clowned on both here and fen forums/discord from what I've heard.

 

[Walk Cycle]

The dude has even been clowned on both here and fen forums/discord from what I've heard.

He also hasn't made any content for quite awhile now afaik. Someone will probably correct me here, but Bubs' last entry revolves around finally adding the proper responses to Leofric's sucker punch and not much else. He promised more content for genderbent Hirrud, a few foxes, the mercenaries, and more scenes for the ex-cultist bunny creep. but now there's barely news about him.

 

[zwere]

It's always a treat finding poorly thought out word choices in scenes.
Now, if you just look at the google dictionary meaning, the word has been used properly. Except if you delve slightly below surface level, you'd be hard pressed to find this specific synonym of accept not used in extremely formal and political matters.

Obviously there's nothing wrong with busting out the thesaurus and fishing for synonyms to avoid repetitiveness in creative writing. I do it all the time. But by God, if it's a really obscure one, at least check examples of where and how it is typically used. There are some words that are mostly seen in politics but have some fringe use in mundane writing, such as the word unilateral, yet for the most part you want to avoid misusing lingo where it just doesn't fit.

 

[Quintilus]

It's always a treat finding poorly thought out word choices in scenes. View attachment 3105844
Now, if you just look at the google dictionary meaning, the word has been used properly. Except if you delve slightly below surface level, you'd be hard pressed to find this specific synonym of accept not used in extremely formal and political matters.

Obviously there's nothing wrong with busting out the thesaurus and fishing for synonyms to avoid repetitiveness in creative writing. I do it all the time. But by God, if it's a really obscure one, at least check examples of where and how it is typically used. There are some words that are mostly seen in politics but have some fringe use in mundane writing, such as the word unilateral, yet for the most part you want to avoid misusing lingo where it just doesn't fit.

'Marvelous, carry on, Im arriving'

 

[zwere]

He also hasn't made any content for quite awhile now afaik. Someone will probably correct me here, but Bubs' last entry revolves around finally adding the proper responses to Leofric's sucker punch and not much else. He promised more content for genderbent Hirrud, a few foxes, the mercenaries, and more scenes for the ex-cultist bunny creep. but now there's barely news about him.

I just checked the forums and it looks like his last appearance there was the same month as that updated scene dropped and it was him getting into a spat with someone criticizing Quin lol.

 

[TalRash4]

I mean.
We're comparing the traditional fun race where they mistfy you, have fun quirks, are generally lighthearted in nearly every setting, in porn get your rocks off, and maybe fall in love depending on the story you're reading from games in this space to old folktales to...

to...
I mean you visit the tree:

• Everybody tries to brutalize you with no room or time for an explanation
• That fox band you helped won't even remotely attempt to help you through this scenario in a way that actually matters
• if they win they forcefully kill your ego, genderbend you, and force you into marriage and likely life of servitude as a mother to edge the fox
• The elder was cursed into an eternal punishment stated to be worse than death
• One of the denizens was turned into bacon because of politics
• Edge the fox clearly hates you
• Drunk the fox exists to fuck all the other NPCs and be abrasive to the PC. But, it's okay because they're all thots including the potential mother of your children:
  
• Your cute daughter time warps into a Mary Sue stranger with a marriage you as the filthy foreigner get to do nothing with including meeting the groom in any official capacity. (Damn Tobs, not even having him visit you on a date with your daughter? I would have been pummeled to a pulp for being so brazen)
• The roaming foxes aren't tricksters at all who get what they want through trickery but roaming gangs of rapists who use whacky moon logic; if you get your rocks off, it was an equivalent trade
• You find out that their tree is what's killing the hippie elf tree gods (except not really it was hippie elf targeting mushroom ancient evil all along!)
• Treated like an outsider by nearly everybody involved

Anyways, I'm not saying you can't cover more serious themes in a porn game. But, man... My big thing is maids and while the maids in this game commit every single sin that exists even they weren't mangled as hard as kitsune were.

It is a porn game, but for kitsunes I would like to have an option like in (God forgive me) Skyrim with a den of assassins: just erase them into ashes without any conversations. Just walk in, slaughter every single one (perhaps, spare one or two - for, y'know, fun) and walk out like a chad. There is an arrogant idiots and there is this multi-tailed twisted wretches.

 

[Raf-Raf]

It is a porn game, but for kitsunes I would like to have an option like in (God forgive me) Skyrim with a den of assassins: just erase them into ashes without any conversations. Just walk in, slaughter every single one (perhaps, spare one or two - for, y'know, fun) and walk out like a chad. There is an arrogant idiots and there is this multi-tailed twisted wretches.

Raphael: Join me, brother. And let us eliminate this den of evil together.


He was the hero all along, we're just in the POV of a shitsune.

 

[destroyerofassholes]

You're right, BubbleLord, real life sucks. But not in the way you think. It sucks not in that some pretentious twat thinks that emulating real life is peak fiction, it sucks in that such pretentious twats are capable of inserting themselves in a porn game and contaminate the minds of others with their stupidity.

That was such a sad, pathetic comment by Bubs because you just know it's not actually about the character, it's about him getting "all the bitches" through some character he wrote. And he has to defend that.

Of all the various insane fucks over at SavinCo, Bubs is the single most miserable fuck out there. Tobs is also a massive asshole, but nobody accidentally shits on himself quite like Bubs does.

 

[Wrynn13]

Hmmm, does that mean Bubs giving us the option to leave the mind rapist out in the cold to die was less about gods forbid actually giving the player choices and more about shitting on himself knowing the character was trash? I still actually like Byvernia though so it's not like he can't do good on occasion. Still wish we got her as a companion instead of the cultist too.

 

[Rocky Pineapple Rhythm]

I remember when I used to like Byvernia, than Bubble boy kept talking about future plans for her and into the trash she went with the rest of em

 

[YouShallNotLol]

I remember when I used to like Byvernia, than Bubble boy kept talking about future plans for her and into the trash she went with the rest of em

What future plans?

 

[zwere]

Hmmm, does that mean Bubs giving us the option to leave the mind rapist out in the cold to die was less about gods forbid actually giving the player choices and more about shitting on himself knowing the character was trash? I still actually like Byvernia though so it's not like he can't do good on occasion. Still wish we got her as a companion instead of the cultist too.

No, in his mind if you don't help Quin, he goes full Sonic and keeps running forever.

 

[Susan Xandera]

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No, in his mind if you don't help Quin, he goes full Sonic and keeps running forever.

If he went full Sonic then he'd be likeable.
EDIT: Also, why does BubbleLardass have a picture that looks like its got the downs?