Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.33] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Wrynn13]

I will happily mash on a creators work for entertainment here as I don't have to worry about making people feel a certain way. But, I still feel bad that Bubs got burned that hard. Whatever the reason is, he cut complete ties with the writing team and that's not something you generally a person would do without sufficient reason. Everybody needs somebody in their corner.


That soulbound sucks in general. If you compare the kitsune soulbound to the valkyrie one it's night and day. Large dialogue variations, multiple events that don't happen unless you're a valkyrie, a few chunks dedicated to it's existence, etc.

Comparing that to the foxes where you get slight dialogue changes and some middling powers is rather lackluster. Given the borderline xenophobia you'd think there'd be at least a mini plot thread instead of nothing.

Alypia really did a good job and hopefully won't lose steam.
Kitsune soulbound option is not unlike the kitsune in general.


There's the furry races like Lupines, Marefolk, Leothran or w/e they're called, and Minotaurs.
If we're to raw numbers however? There's far fewer of them than there are kitsune, bees, harpies, elves, and centaurs. All of your party members save 1 wouldn't count either I imagine. Hmm. Never really thought about this. I've always only ever went where the characters with character are.



There's more than Gytha. Hell if I can remember off the top of my head.

Just reminds me back to the days of CoC1 when it'd be easier to list NPCs that didn't take into account multiple genital's and like half of them had unique scenes for being a veritable tentacle monster. Izumi, Holli, Kiha, Helia, Scylla's support group, the forest kitsune, Isabella, Kell- actually you get the point.

Some NPCs added in either of the mods also take into account number and type and alter the scenes accordingly. Though I think most of them were only ever done by community writers though so obviously you wouldn't get that kind of energy here.

There are some good parts of the Valk soulbind but Aly still fucked it up plenty. You don't even become a valk; here's some fake wings and a boob job, congrats. At lest the Shitzune TF actually makes you a Shitzune for whatever that's worth.

 

[Alterism]

You don't even become a valk; here's some fake wings

Valks don't have a real distinguishing characteristic besides being female and having wings. You can achieve both the appearance of either valk or kitsune by just using TFs. To an extent. The golden wings are limited to valks, afaik. No way to replicate them in game and they have their own unique appearance descriptor.

Though I'll say I'm being a bit harsh from an overall perspective. The TF itself into a kitsune and the descriptors there especially if you have Kiyoko with you aren't bad for the most part. The small changes in a variety of scenes that account for your changes is alright and there IS a decent amount of them both regularly in sex scenes. It's just that after that it's over. A "your eminence" here and there, some scenes with Kiyoko, done.
And as I've brought up in the past, this is something that's competing for the same space of content that will inevitably be swamped with lover Kas' resolution.

 

[Evizzy89]

just realized the last version I played was 6.2 how much more horsecock can I suck if I play again? D=
reading the changelog theres kalysea, and oralith got a cg? but no new scenes?

(been waiting on more content for those 3 cenataur fucky things)
also anymore new content with the....big ball tanuki mommy I forget her name

 

[Wrynn13]

Valks don't have a real distinguishing characteristic besides being female and having wings. You can achieve both the appearance of either valk or kitsune by just using TFs. To an extent. The golden wings are limited to valks, afaik. No way to replicate them in game and they have their own unique appearance descriptor.

Though I'll say I'm being a bit harsh from an overall perspective. The TF itself into a kitsune and the descriptors there especially if you have Kiyoko with you aren't bad for the most part. The small changes in a variety of scenes that account for your changes is alright and there IS a decent amount of them both regularly in sex scenes. It's just that after that it's over. A "your eminence" here and there, some scenes with Kiyoko, done.
And as I've brought up in the past, this is something that's competing for the same space of content that will inevitably be swamped with lover Kas' resolution.

If you bond with the trickster your race actually changes to Kitsune, it does not change if you bond to the broodmare. Full Frost Elf with feathered wings and you're still just called a Wyld Elf. The bullshit "anyone can be a Valkyrie" garbage is lame as hell.

 

[Biostar]

Tobs literaly wrote the kitsunes all over, thin-veiled threats from eloquent/polite fox encounter...which makes no sense, why? WHY would you be able to talk a FOREIGN LANGUAGE like you spent your whole life in a library and not scrapping for food in the fucking arctic?¡ do Harpies teach discount kitsune's words beyond the ones needing for fucking or something?

2-Good Lord the Empath Vulperine is a discount Kiyoko in ALL THE WRONG WAYS, the breeding sex scene was one of the longest Tobs scenes I've bothered reading (seriously it was like...10 paragraphs a page and 3 pages long? Tobs I don't overdose on Viagra like you do my boy, PP can't stay hard that long!) and that last page? GOD, WHAT WAS HE THINKING?¡

The whole "HuRr DuRr ImMa DeScRiBe EgGs' FeRtIlIzAtIoN sTeP bY sTeP!1!1!" scene was so bad...we're a Gods-damned bronze-age adventurer fucking a STONE-AGE TELEPATH BARBARIAN! WHY DOES SHE TALK LIKE KIYOKO?¡ (A noble that literaly spent CENTURIES trapped with nothing better to do than read books mind you!) WHY CAN WE FUCKING SEE SPERM INSEMINATING HER OVARIES MID-ORGASM?¡ HELL, WHY THE FUCK DOES ANY OF US KNOW WHAT A FUCKING SPERM/EGG IS?¡

I'm confused, where are you getting this content from? The only Vulperine content I see is with male ones. Am I missing something?

So you guys agree that its not a furry but weeb game!?

Eh, there are full on furry girls in the game but also not enough I would simply call it a furry game. I wouldn't call it a weeb game either, outside of Kitsune shit. It's fantasy, just leave it at that.

 

[NODOGAN]

I'm confused, where are you getting this content from? The only Vulperine content I see is with male ones. Am I missing something?

If you explore the north area of the windy peaks there's a random chance the Vulperine hunters will spawn with a female leader that is an "Empath" (basically a Dreamweaver born with telepathic powers.)

 

[TalRash4]

Raphael: Join me, brother. And let us eliminate this den of evil together.
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He was the hero all along, we're just in the POV of a shitsune.

Shades of shit imo, but if later i can betray him and stick some knifes in his furry back…

 

[NODOGAN]

Valks don't have a real distinguishing characteristic besides being female and having wings. You can achieve both the appearance of either valk or kitsune by just using TFs. To an extent. The golden wings are limited to valks, afaik. No way to replicate them in game and they have their own unique appearance descriptor.

Though I'll say I'm being a bit harsh from an overall perspective. The TF itself into a kitsune and the descriptors there especially if you have Kiyoko with you aren't bad for the most part. The small changes in a variety of scenes that account for your changes is alright and there IS a decent amount of them both regularly in sex scenes. It's just that after that it's over. A "your eminence" here and there, some scenes with Kiyoko, done.
And as I've brought up in the past, this is something that's competing for the same space of content that will inevitably be swamped with lover Kas' resolution.

Do Valkyrie wings even let you fly? I'm gonna assume no/you still need flying companions for those game sections.

 

[Wrynn13]

Do Valkyrie wings even let you fly? I'm gonna assume no/you still need flying companions for those game sections.

One thing that was well done in the Sun castle is there is a flying racetrack you can compete in if you have wings. My Wyld Elf absolutely smoked the giant not really a valkyrie at it, though I'm not sure if that was from being a natural flyer or having maxed agility. I assume it was put there for people getting the fake Valk wings though.

 

[NODOGAN]

One thing that was well done in the Sun castle is there is a flying racetrack you can compete in if you have wings. My Wyld Elf absolutely smoked the giant not really a valkyrie at it, though I'm not sure if that was from being a natural flyer or having maxed agility. I assume it was put there for people getting the fake Valk wings though.

Must be agility, I remember my Rogue Catfolk beat her in that track as well and it wasn't a Valkyrie (still refuses to partake in a gender-locked content, I wanna play as male dammit!)

 

[Biostar]

If you explore the north area of the windy peaks there's a random chance the Vulperine hunters will spawn with a female leader that is an "Empath" (basically a Dreamweaver born with telepathic powers.)

Of course they put the straight stuff behind RNG.

 

[M0nte]

I'm confused, where are you getting this content from? The only Vulperine content I see is with male ones. Am I missing something?

Like are we talking about males as in actual males, or are you just calling girls with dicks males?

 

[Biostar]

Like are we talking about males as in actual males, or are you just calling girls with dicks males?

I'm not that anal with futas/dickgirls to call them males. They're males as far as I can tell, with all the he/hims and the appropriate equipment to go with them. For obvious reasons I can't tell you what happens in the 3 scenes available to them since they're all receiving.

 

[Alterism]

Do Valkyrie wings even let you fly? I'm gonna assume no/you still need flying companions for those game sections.

Outside of a handful of scenes? No. There's no flying ability to ability either like CoC or TiTS. Every area where flight could be a solution to a puzzle it just isn't. It's cosmetic and extremely seldom referenced just like the rest of your characters appearance in this game.

 

[Infinatious]

Do Valkyrie wings even let you fly? I'm gonna assume no/you still need flying companions for those game sections.

Giving you any abilities based on your character's body would be a power fantasy.

 

[Quintilus]

To be honest, exchanges of thumbs on ability to fly is not an equal exchange.

 

[Evizzy89]

 

[CalebSyndartheDragon]

Seriously what the hell is even the point of giving us the ability to have wings if we can't actually use them to traverse the world, or actually in combat

Seriously this is what I LOVE about Lilith's Throne in that game there's entirely new ways to solve a problem.

Such as flying over a Fence, flying after a Harpy Lady or freaking Fast Traveling across the Map!

But for real, why even give us the choice to have something if your not going to let us USE it!

These Devs I swear! Get your heads out of your Asses and actually follow through on the choices and TF options you give players and actually let your players have fun and use them otherwise why bother!?

Or above all else, if Savin is so against the idea of Power Fantasies then why is our Protagonist addressed as a Champion and on top of that what are we even the champion of exactly.

The Champion of being a Beta, the Champion of being a Loser, like seriously why give us this title if it means literally nothing!?

And also I LOVE how Savin is so against the idea of the players having a power fantasy, but he, TOBS and every other egotistical writer with their mindsets allows their OC's and Self Inserts to have their Power Fantasies but not us the Protagonist the literal Player Character AKA the most important character in the damn story/game.

Its almost like they don't know what a "Protagonist" even is in the first place.

And the fact that if you try to give them valid criticism they just outright Ban you or come up with terrible excuses to justify their decisions, for even daring to question their design its childish and unbecoming.

 

[Raf-Raf]

Seriously what the hell is even the point of giving us the ability to have wings if we can't actually use them to traverse the world, or actually in combat

Seriously this is what I LOVE about Lilith's Throne in that game there's entirely new ways to solve a problem.

Such as flying over a Fence, flying after a Harpy Lady or freaking Fast Traveling across the Map!

But for real, why even give us the choice to have something if your not going to let us USE it!

These Devs I swear! Get your heads out of your Asses and actually follow through on the choices and TF options you give players and actually let your players have fun and use them otherwise why bother!?

See, you already made the mistake of thinking these devs can think of basic QoLs like those in the first place.
I know I did too.

 

[Alterism]

*snip*

The stated reason was that they didn't want to make it so that appearance was tied to power upgrades as the strongest combat options were all TF based in CoC1. Never you mind the fact that CoC1 can be aced and dusted with the same nonexistent difficulty by running through as a pure human using the sword you picked up at the start of the game.

The more probable reason is that they didn't want to account for TFs that people don't write. Same reason PC manticore tails were removed and why all nonstandard TFs that aren't just "human in cosplay" aren't existent in this game. They didn't want to deal or account for them.

On the topic of the now dead manticore tail vagina
A brief refresher;

" I care about having literally unusable TFs in the game "
and then the curtain pulls back and the vast majority of TFs that do exist (what little there are) are completely functionless. Does your burning salamander tail do anything? Of course it doesn't.

Certainly a "true sequel" to CoC.