Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.45] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[ScholarOfTheFirstSin]

Savin and any other Dev on COC2 need to listen to his advice right here

Be fair to players. Old-school adventure games are famous for cruel results such as "You pick up the rock, starting an avalanche that buries you. Game over." Nowadays, players want their skill and choices to be rewarded. Besides avoiding arbitrary player deaths, here are a few other design goals to keep in mind.

• Don't make important events hinge on a die roll. For the most part, if a player has figured out what to do, he should succeed 100% of the time.
• Provide hints for difficult puzzles, and don't put in more than two or three red herrings.
• Don't make a puzzle that can't be solved on the first playthrough, such as one that requires knowledge of the next area or a trial-and-error puzzle that kills you if you don't guess correctly.
• It's fine to permanently close off an area partway through the game, but the player should be given fair warning before this happens. If a choice makes the game unwinnable, this should be obvious in advance, and it should end the game instead of letting the player keep trying with no hope of winning.

Hello im Savin the creator of COC 2!
after not so careful consideration Me and my boyfriend Tobs has decided that we rather shit our hands and clap then listening to your stupid advice
thank you for the critique and please keep sending your money to us so we can keep pumping futa horse cock cuckoldry content and ruin another character !!!!!!!

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[Alterism]

Just wanted to say how much I enjoy your posts both here and on their other game. You always have very clearly explained thoughts and you are always very insightful.

In regards to the TF issue... I think it wouldnt be as much of an issue if it wasnt for the dual development. Too much script work is being divided between too many projects and I think that limits what they at least *feel* like they can implement. I think many of these kinds of issues couldve been avoided if they had finished TiTs before diving so deep into CoC2.

Potentially. At the very least there'd be potentially more manpower assuming Fen stopped making games after TiTS and the crew rolled over into the new project now.
As it stands, the two games are (mostly) handled by two completely different teams. TiTs has Gedan, Jacques, donkey, Fen himself, and a variety of other peoples names who I forget. CoC2 has Balak, Garde I think, and I can't remember who else. Technically Savin has more responsibility over TiTS now (which hasn't been too hot recently if I'm going to be honest).

Anyways they've got two (mostly) independent teams.

Though to be frank, I'm pretty sure the reason for the mediocre TF showing is solely on willingness. Anytime a gripe or detractor gets addressed (if it's not something minor) it ends up never acted on (like corruption content) or morphed out of spite. In the 2020's during the biggest period of growth when the game could grow the team simply didn't. And now in a state where three (technically 4) writers are AWOL and the performance wanes each month the scorpion still continues to sting the frog. So I expect more of the same.

Fuck this, been at it for days and still no empath. What a waste of time.

The only highlight.

Otherwise it's...

Well I mean. Your eyes will certainly glaze over.

Edit: Whoops! Forgot the rest of the post. TL;DR Turgid shows up like 4 times for the cold foxes. I'm curious at how many times tobs has used that word in general

 

[Meatshield236]

Potentially. At the very least there'd be potentially more manpower assuming Fen stopped making games after TiTS and the crew rolled over into the new project now.
As it stands, the two games are (mostly) handled by two completely different teams. TiTs has Gedan, Jacques, donkey, Fen himself, and a variety of other peoples names who I forget. CoC2 has Balak, Garde I think, and I can't remember who else. Technically Savin has more responsibility over TiTS now (which hasn't been too hot recently if I'm going to be honest).

Anyways they've got two (mostly) independent teams.

Though to be frank, I'm pretty sure the reason for the mediocre TF showing is solely on willingness. Anytime a gripe or detractor gets addressed (if it's not something minor) it ends up never acted on (like corruption content) or morphed out of spite. In the 2020's during the biggest period of growth when the game could grow the team simply didn't. And now in a state where three (technically 4) writers are AWOL and the performance wanes each month the scorpion still continues to sting the frog. So I expect more of the same.



The only highlight.

Otherwise it's...

Well I mean. Your eyes will certainly glaze over.

Also I mentioned the new update in passing and he asked me if a certain somebody still

I'm sorry, cumvein? What the actual fuck? What the flying fuck is with these writers and coming up with the most unsexy ways of describing anatomy? LESS IS MORE PEOPLE. YOU DO NOT NEED 5 SEPARATE WORDS FOR SEMEN, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY INCLUDE TERMS LIKE "BABY BATTER" AND OTHER SUCH NONSENSE. GODDAMN.

cough cough Ahem.

While I appreciate the fact that writing textual porn is difficult at the best of times, the most basic of mistakes is people thinking that, because basic descriptions of anatomy are unsexy, one should use euphemisms. Which creates words like this. Don't be like these writers, do other things like changing the entire way you construct the descriptions in the first place. In other words, penis in vajayjay is almost never sexy no matter how many pretty words you use to describe it.

 

[Mrbark1234]

Potentially. At the very least there'd be potentially more manpower assuming Fen stopped making games after TiTS and the crew rolled over into the new project now.
As it stands, the two games are (mostly) handled by two completely different teams. TiTs has Gedan, Jacques, donkey, Fen himself, and a variety of other peoples names who I forget. CoC2 has Balak, Garde I think, and I can't remember who else. Technically Savin has more responsibility over TiTS now (which hasn't been too hot recently if I'm going to be honest).

Anyways they've got two (mostly) independent teams.

Though to be frank, I'm pretty sure the reason for the mediocre TF showing is solely on willingness. Anytime a gripe or detractor gets addressed (if it's not something minor) it ends up never acted on (like corruption content) or morphed out of spite. In the 2020's during the biggest period of growth when the game could grow the team simply didn't. And now in a state where three (technically 4) writers are AWOL and the performance wanes each month the scorpion still continues to sting the frog. So I expect more of the same.



The only highlight.

Otherwise it's...

Well I mean. Your eyes will certainly glaze over.

Also I mentioned the new update in passing and he asked me if a certain somebody still

My favorite writer i mean why write a good sex scene when you can use that time to describe every object in the room then at the end of his essay he'll write the end of the sex with something like "You feel it that familiar ache of your cock getting ready to cough out its massive load into the quivering canal of your latest sexual partner"

Damn need to redouble my efforts to beat hot writing like that

 

[Mrbark1234]

I honestly think no one reads the scenes he submits unless they need to sleep

 

[Raf-Raf]

I honestly think no one reads the scenes he submits unless they need to sleep

Man just called me out.

 

[NODOGAN]

I'm sorry, cumvein? What the actual fuck? What the flying fuck is with these writers and coming up with the most unsexy ways of describing anatomy? LESS IS MORE PEOPLE. YOU DO NOT NEED 5 SEPARATE WORDS FOR SEMEN, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY INCLUDE TERMS LIKE "BABY BATTER" AND OTHER SUCH NONSENSE. GODDAMN.

cough cough Ahem.

While I appreciate the fact that writing textual porn is difficult at the best of times, the most basic of mistakes is people thinking that, because basic descriptions of anatomy are unsexy, one should use euphemisms. Which creates words like this. Don't be like these writers, do other things like changing the entire way you construct the descriptions in the first place. In other words, penis in vajayjay is almost never sexy no matter how many pretty words you use to describe it.

At this point I feel ANYONE could do a better job at writting sex scenes than Tobs(it'll be shorter at the very least & more entertaining at the very most)

Y'know what? Fuck it, already thought of a premise while writting this comment, plot would be of an MC that uses "Pleasure Magic" to adventure into distant lands & enslave threats to his kingdom to make money off them/build their own harem, that sounds like fun!

 

[Noone202]

At this point I feel ANYONE could do a better job at writting sex scenes than Tobs(it'll be shorter at the very least & more entertaining at the very most)

Now that sounds like a challenge. Wonder if an AI with lewd filter off can write better than the purple prose Tobs making

 

[johnysanchez01]

I'm convinced the dude has watched too many red pill videos with the way he acts. I'd bet given the chance he would describe himself as "alpha", but I guess even he knows that would be too embarassing.

"Sorry nerd, but in real life the furry erotica author gets the kitsune waifus."

 

[Quintilus]

While I appreciate the fact that writing textual porn is difficult at the best of times, the most basic of mistakes is people thinking that, because basic descriptions of anatomy are unsexy, one should use euphemisms. Which creates words like this. Don't be like these writers, do other things like changing the entire way you construct the descriptions in the first place. In other words, penis in vajayjay is almost never sexy no matter how many pretty words you use to describe it.

Spear of virility jerked and began its growth. She watched in adoration how power flowed through veins of his sexual tool, strengthening future generations and her 'motherly' future. Heavy leather sack slowly pulsed under her eyes, filled with all kind of possible outcomes, soldier, artist, dancer, singer or even same stud as his father. She stretched out her arms take a hold on a muscle bag filled with blood. It twitched in her hands, allowing her to feel his heartbeat. Natural lubricant, fines on miles around, slowly leaked all over her palm. She looked in his eyes and said 'extinguish my crave'.

To be fair, people are different. Shocking, I know.
There are one nsfw artist that draws quality porn with quote unquote captions like 'I shouldnt allow him to use my throat like this, like Im a brainless toy for him to use whenever he feels like it....ugh, but it feels so good...' which some finds a huge turn off while others silly but hot.

 

[Tsubuhaza]

Save wipe, Kitsune Alter, Tobs, cumvein.

What a result.

 

[Susan Xandera]

Save wipe, Kitsune Alter, Tobs, cumvein.

What a result.

So we don't know what caused the SAVE WIPE on our end but somewhere far off yonder, in front of a shoddy KITSUNE ALTAR built within their crusty closet, was TOBS kneeling. Slack jawed, glassy eyed, smelling of unwashed rank and B.O. the investigator found the cause of his coma to be an exploded CUMVEIN brought on by his dark ritual to silence those who questioned his cumstained, rose tinted glasses.

Look Ma, I made a storywatchmacallit with no grammalaticalal errors whatsoevar!

 

[Tsubuhaza]

So we don't know what caused the SAVE WIPE on our end but somewhere far off yonder, in front of a shoddy KITSUNE ALTAR built within their crusty closet, was TOBS kneeling. Slack jawed, gleassy eyed, smelling of unwashed rank and B.O. the investigator found the cause of his coma to be an exploded CUMVEIN brought on by his dark ritual to silence those who questioned his cumstained, rose tinted glasses.

Look Ma, I made a storywatchmacallit with no grammalaticalal errors whatsoevar!

Sorry, meant like in Fate when they re-use a design with some difference and call it an Alter.

...Then again, I wouldn't be surprised if a certain someone did have an altar for his precious kitsune society that "we simply do not understand".

 

[Comiies]

Sorry, meant like in Fate when they re-use a design with some difference and call it an Alter.

...Then again, I wouldn't be surprised if a certain someone did have an altar for his precious kitsune society that "we simply do not understand".

Honestly man TOBs redemption arc would be to increase the smugness of the kitsune by two fold and then write copius amounts of brat breeding.(Wink wink tobs doesnt have to do that but when the time for modders come that should be a priority no? wink wink)

 

[NODOGAN]

So I've been reading Vices & Violence (WIP TTRPG book by Jack Cayless/Rapscallion that is essentially the spiritual succesor of CoC1 but with even better writting & world-building) and gotta say it's companion rules make me sad that we didn't got such thing in CoC2, to elaborate:

1) Companions are ENTIRELY OPTIONAL (since is a TTRPG you're expected to play with other players granted, I mean NPCs when I say companions) and thus you can completely ignore them if you want to.

2) Companions are divided in 2 types, the "Active" and the "Passive" ones: Active ones will fight alongside you and be essentially an extra body on the battlefield, while Passive ones are there to grant you bonuses & unlock extra content (a Brawler like Brint would be an active one, while a Healer like Cait would be a passive one that heals you outside of combat & lets you fuck her to gain a "buff against tease attacks" in Vices & Violence for example.)

3) Sometimes companions can be FOUND in dungeons if you're not attacking everything that moves (mostly of the Passive variety, like the "Lightbearers" which are tormented creatures that if you show them the slightest bit of attention/care are EXTREMELY willing to betray their uncaring masters and aid you for the remaining of the dungeon, makes it all feel more alive honestly.)

P.S: If any of you fellow pervs got friends that like ERP and are looking for rules I highly recommend Vices & Violence, is one hell of a setting (also the artstyle has massive fucking titties/dongs/muscular lovers/femboy lovers & everything in between, is awesome!)

 

[Wrynn13]

As always I'll reiterate the real successor to CoC was Fall of Eden. And I still think Savin and Tobs torpedoed it on purpose.

 

[FurrBat]

Ayo, is that Rapscallion ?

 

[NODOGAN]

Ayo, is that Rapscallion ?

Bingo!

 

[johndoe191713]

As always I'll reiterate the real successor to CoC was Fall of Eden. And I still think Savin and Tobs torpedoed it on purpose.

care to elaborate please? liked fall of eden and come back to it once in a while. Thought its made by Alder Arts and theyre independent of fenoxo

 

[Biostar]

As always I'll reiterate the real successor to CoC was Fall of Eden. And I still think Savin and Tobs torpedoed it on purpose.

Nah, I'm sure Tobs wanted everyone to know about his spite project. Cassidy was prototype Kinu.