Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.47] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[jfmherokiller]

Im glad to see that we have stopped attacking each other over different opinions and have finally come back to the most important topic: Roasting this stinking shithole of a game.

I cant wait for the mods to wake up and attempt to trim this messy overgrown bush.

 

[Quintilus]

man i'm not the smartest person and even i struggle with some games but srsly? Underrail? every stat tells you what it influences as you hover over it. maybe hard games aren't for you and you should go back to Puple Place

I dont remember my exact problem with it.
I just remember that after several failed attempts to start it with different builds, with ingame helping screen 'stat X used by Y class to do Z', I tried really basic 'dum-dum dude with a big fists' class that is impossible to fuck up, just pick STR and CON...which also failed horribly, I was forced to run after each two hits from enemies to the healer.
So I was forced to check wiki about something very basic about core gameplay loop...classes probably or what stats actually do. After finishing reading it I said 'yeah, cool' selected game folder and press Shift+Delete followed by the Enter.

 

[YouShallNotLol]

I dont remember my exact problem with it.
I just remember that after several failed attempts to start it with different builds, with ingame helping screen 'stat X used by Y class to do Z', I tried really basic 'dum-dum dude with a big fists' class that is impossible to fuck up, just pick STR and CON...which also failed horribly, I was forced to run after each two hits from enemies to the healer.
So I was forced to check wiki about something very basic about core gameplay loop...classes probably or what stats actually do. After finishing reading it I said 'yeah, cool' selected game folder and press Shift+Delete followed by the Enter.

That sounds like a Skill Issue.
You beter not even try to play Dwarf Fortress.

 

[Quintilus]

That sounds like a Skill Issue.
You beter not even try to play Dwarf Fortress.

Developer of dwarf fortress once personally said something like 'you should enjoy it from a distance'

 

[thecatcameback]

Massive L if that's the case.

They want to do even less work, so a win for them. Make the next guy even blander. Possibly Fallout 4man tier bland. With two yes, a sarcastic yes, and ask more cock yes. Imagine all the magical pee forest realms the writers can guide us through now!

 

[YouShallNotLol]

Developer of dwarf fortress once personally said something like 'you should enjoy it from a distance'

Also true.

 

[Femboys and Futas]

Wait a fucking minute

>An established brand (Fenoxo), who essentially is known for two big franchises, that have a lot of similarities, but main difference is the setting
>The sequel to one of those franchises is a financial success with a lot of fans, but frankly speaking it's kinda garbage in most mechanics and feels like a downgrade to the mechanics of the past game.
>One of the main writers is a person who is not great at his job and has very iffy views on narrative in general and how players consume it
>Want to make their first new IP in a decade
>A lot of mechanics from past games players expect are out
>The approach to the key design element is different, but in reality not that different from what the last game was despite it not being fully intended

Holy fucking shit is Fenoxo/Savin the Bethesda of porn games?...
Well, only kinda because ironically Bethesda allows and encourages mods and Todd himself installed a very well-written fan-made furry last time he played Skyrim.

Who?

 

[zwere]

Whew, haven't visited the thread in almost a week, update drought is real. Glad to see the RPG topic has remained entertaining, though. I'll add more fuel to the fire, since Savin and his cohort seem to be taking it easy this month. At least their paypigs are still gonna fork over their allowance money regardless.

I think you're brought out all of these guys who outrank me because you think I'm trying to speak some sort of gospel truth or whatever.

Just because someone took the time to do a higher effort post that digs for quotes and examples from authorative people doesn't mean they're trying to wage a holy war against you. More than likely it's just someone who feels very passionate about a topic and wants to source others reaffirming their argument to strenghten their points. It has nothing to do with trying to combat your point of view, just to make theirs more compelling to whoever cares to read and engage with it.

I feel very strongly about my opinions, which is why I'm defending them, but whatever you're trying to accomplish by posting all of this stuff, it's not going to happen.

Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. Anyone that gets into this kind of an argument obviously feels strongly about the topic, why even point that out? Though it does seems you're more concerned with the idea of having your opinion changed being somehow the equivalent to losing. That's just your ego speaking. It doesn't matter whether you've formed your opinion from a source you've looked up yourself or from an argument someone else has brought to oppose your view. Being more resolute in an opinion doesn't make it more valid.

 

[Comiies]

Whew, haven't visited the thread in almost a week, update drought is real. Glad to see the RPG topic has remained entertaining, though. I'll add more fuel to the fire, since Savin and his cohort seem to be taking it easy this month. At least their paypigs are still gonna fork over their allowance money regardless.

Just because someone took the time to do a higher effort post that digs for quotes and examples from authorative people doesn't mean they're trying to wage a holy war against you. More than likely it's just someone who feels very passionate about a topic and wants to source others reaffirming their argument to strenghten their points. It has nothing to do with trying to combat your point of view, just to make theirs more compelling to whoever cares to read and engage with it.

Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. Anyone that gets into this kind of an argument obviously feels strongly about the topic, why even point that out? Though it does seems you're more concerned with the idea of having your opinion changed being somehow the equivalent to losing. That's just your ego speaking. It doesn't matter whether you've formed your opinion from a source you've looked up yourself or from an argument someone else has brought to oppose your view. Being more resolute in an opinion doesn't make it more valid.

licky licky asshole we need more anal

 

[Mrbark1234]

licky licky asshole we need more anal

The logic of your argument is irrefutable who dares to challenge him

 

[caju]

I reckon you two have enough anal for everyone.

 

[ExcitedTengu]

If Cait's Father wanted children and his Noble Wife was infertile...why did he went to the religious slut instead of paying for some surrogate mother? is he stupid?

One would think the point of wanting kids is to raise them, not to let some cult have them and groom them the same way Disney is trying to groom kids IRL.

Seriously I don't know how the hell their fandom hasn't revolted with the literal religion of grooming.

 

[Mandoto]

Seriously I don't know how the hell their fandom hasn't revolted with the literal religion of grooming.

I think it comes with the territory, unfortunately. I also think that the devs simply stating that the religion entirely based around being a whore in no way grooms the children born into it, is enough for the dickriding fanbase to believe without any further thought or investigation of their own.

 

[harem.king]

Who?

Bethesda = the company that made Skyrim
Todd Howard = the owner of Bethesda executive producer of bethesda for decades now (edit: corrected info)
Fenoxo = the guy who made corruption of champions 1

 

[smithsmithsmith]

I think it comes with the territory, unfortunately. I also think that the devs simply stating that the religion entirely based around being a whore in no way grooms the children born into it, is enough for the dickriding fanbase to believe without any further thought or investigation of their own.

I mean we're talking about a fantasy setting of their design, if they say there's no grooming then there's no grooming, simple. Sure in a real world setting you couldn't trust that at all, but again this is a fantasy setting so applying real world logic is a waste of everyone's time.

 

[Duderino]

Word of god can't really override how they present it in the story, its not even the first time they have this problem as people raised similar points with new texas and the treatment in tits with how they wrote it and Reaha's story

Its basically a consequence of them trying to have more "serious worldbuilding" but still writing everything as turboslut degenaracy, in coc1 it works since the setting is a post apocalyptic fuckhole but them trying to get a bit more serious with tits and coc2 ends up going against the nature of it being a porn game

If you write a sex cult that fucks everything with a pulse and the way they get new members is by getting pregnant for money and raising said children in the cult then youre not gonna shake off the groomer sex cult vibes

Its also why the main plot of coc2 is kinda flat but i dont think anyone takes it seriously by this point anyway, trying to stop kas from "corrupting" the world is a pretty limp goal when the world is already full on degeneracy and if you follow the romance path then your romance with her and with aileh, who are supposed to be the villains, ends up being more wholesome than almost anything with your companions, like the most degen thing about the kas romance is that you need to build cait's sex cult temple to continue it

 

[zwere]

Tod Howard = the owner of Bethesda

Todd Howard works for Bethesda as a producer, he doesn't own the company. He might have stocks in the company after working there for so long, but he's not the owner.

 

[smithsmithsmith]

Word of god can't really override how they present it in the story, its not even the first time they have this problem as people raised similar points with new texas and the treatment in tits with how they wrote it and Reaha's story

Its basically a consequence of them trying to have more "serious worldbuilding" but still writing everything as turboslut degenaracy, in coc1 it works since the setting is a post apocalyptic fuckhole but them trying to get a bit more serious with tits and coc2 ends up going against the nature of it being a porn game

If you write a sex cult that fucks everything with a pulse and the way they get new members is by getting pregnant for money and raising said children in the cult then youre not gonna shake off the groomer sex cult vibes

This is a setting where you can cover someone in grease, set them on fire, then flash your tits and end the encounter sucking them off. You can say it's terrible writing and completely unimmersive but to say it doesn't make sense is pointless, the setting doesn't make sense to begin with so all we can do is take them at face value.

The new texas debacle was even more rediculous. It's a whole planet of bimbos, you can't get any more blatant fetish fuel and yet people decided to take it seriously for the sole purpose of making themselves upset.

 

[NODOGAN]

Its also why the main plot of coc2 is kinda flat but i dont think anyone takes it seriously by this point anyway, trying to stop kas from "corrupting" the world is a pretty limp goal when the world is already full on degeneracy and if you follow the romance path then your romance with her and with aileh, who are supposed to be the villains, ends up being more wholesome than almost anything with your companions, like the most degen thing about the kas romance is that you need to build cait's sex cult temple to continue it

I remember the first years of this game I ended up ALWAYS fighting Kasyrra cuz back then I believed this was a continuation of CoC1 and I wanted to do a purity run.

Nowadays Kassyrra and Aileh are 2 of the best romance options this game has and I never turn them down lol.

 

[Alterism]

I mean we're talking about a fantasy setting of their design, if they say there's no grooming then there's no grooming, simple. Sure in a real world setting you couldn't trust that at all, but again this is a fantasy setting so applying real world logic is a waste of everyone's time.

Word of god says there's no grooming. The game itself details a very different kind of upbringing. I talked about it awhile back;
https://f95zone.to/threads/corrupti...-savin-salamander-studios.11371/post-10741813

Everything talked about on this particular topic is taken right out of the game.
Secondly suspending disbelief doesn't mean there's no narrative cohesion and literally anything can go. Because if we're going that insane of a degree in defense of poor planning any character in the game can spontaneously combust as there's no rule stating that they can't. There's logic to the game's world and it generally follows it.

Which is why demon non-imp pregnancy isn't a thing, Alissa was irredeemable, imps are soulless, gods are wraiths, and all assortment of things that only function when taking them completely straight.\

how they wrote it and Reaha's story

That was a bit of a mistake. And Reaha coming with such heavy handed lore on the darkside of treatment slaps a little given she virtually gets abandoned. While Big T acknowledges that treatment itself isn't necessarily a good thing in how it's administered (given that it's literally compulsory) that's a stain that people (in the meta sense) do their best to look past.

Ah hell, let's just edit it in. That was a stupid narrative, a bad decisions, and a heavy handed attempt to add depth without any willingness to follow through. And for an NPC that essentially never got touched ever again. I can't believe it was let in as it was. Not even any adjustments either. "Hey actually the growing up on NT is actually kind of a hell and escape is insanely difficult".

What the hell was Savin thinking?
There's that, what happened to Myrellion, that on the spot under duress marriage, Natalie Irson.
Honestly just a ton of bad ideas or half baked under-delivered ideas.