Meatshield236

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The problem is that they adapted 4th Edition DnD, which is a perfectly mid tactical miniatures game and decided to apply it to a row-based early JRPG combat system. It has all the downsides of both systems with few upsides. There's no battle map, so there's no using the right ability at the right time, so all you're left with is abilities with arbitrary restrictions.
 

SirJahar

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The problem is that they adapted 4th Edition DnD, which is a perfectly mid tactical miniatures game and decided to apply it to a row-based early JRPG combat system. It has all the downsides of both systems with few upsides. There's no battle map, so there's no using the right ability at the right time, so all you're left with is abilities with arbitrary restrictions.
And since you don't control the rest of the party, you're at the mercy of them not shitting the bed and using the wrong ability.
 

Unobtainium

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Nov 4, 2021
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Lv 20 is obsolete. A party beats strong foes at lv 10-12. I had a 5 year long 3.5 campaign with nerfed xp gain(about 10-20% of what it should) and by the end we were saving the world at lv 12 and it was enough to face CR 16-20 shit regularly. I also played higher level short campaigns in 5e where cr 20 monsters regularly got wiped with ease by a moderately optimized 6 man table. A dragon didn't even damag the party cause my aasimar cleric/druid outhealed it's damage and undid it's CC nearly faster than it applied it. People don't like later levels cause things get abstract. Planar travel becomes common, teleportation is used in combat regularly(teleport in or our it's just an action). We had a PC die to a side-quest bbeg teleporting across the continent to gank us in a dungeon and we had losing fights get no sold by teleporting to a safe tower protected by the mother of all wards. Reality warping becomes common once wishes are in play, mind altering things, time magic, you name it. Things stop being conan thet barbarian or lodoss or slayers or lotr or whatever your dnd inspiration is. It starts being some Malazan shit where gods are actively involved and no-one has an idea of what magic fuckery who is doing to fuck with reality. Unless the DM just pretends actors who can spam wish, planar spells etc don't do it. Most sessions at lv 10-12 in 3.5 involved multiple planes and continent and at least some reality warping, races being wiped out in hours etc. It also involed some disparity. Optimzied wizards like mine or my friends cleric can do a lot more reality warping while an optimized martial is still hit with stick. Spell slots stop mattering when you got rings of wizardry with high 20s or 30s int like my wizard did. If the DM drains 80+ spell slots from one PC then the bad guys deserve to win.

It's the same reason most superhero stories don't have you throwing galaxies like Guren Lagann. Just cause it's stronger doesn't mean it's interesting or relatable. Most people like being around lv 3-8 in most dnd editions, they want to be upper street to city level adventurers engaging mostly with their immediate surroundings rather than fighting 27 dimensional god wars. I say this as someone who prob played 3-4k hours of dnd across the editions in the last decade+ and seen most of the patterns. Higher levels exist so the players know there's heights beyond them individually usually, the living gods and heroes of legend that honestly the party still beats if alone due to action economy usually.
This is just reading like some low power xianxia and I'm all for it.
 

Gameguy614

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I honestly am shocked that they aren’t rioting over on the coc2 forums. The last two updates have been virtually empty. Half a month’s worth of updates and this is what the devs managed? It’s honestly insulting to a degree. I used to be a backer a while back and if I still was one I’d be pissed with the content over the last 2 months. I obviously wouldn’t complain to the devs though because they clearly work so hard and we should feel blessed they give us any content at all. Must be nice to get paid to put out a less than mediocre product and get worshipped for it
 
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I mean if the idea of "we are reinventing a key part of the game in a final attempt to make it better" didn't clue you in that it was an april fools post you clearly haven't followed the game development closely enough.
 

Gameguy614

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I mean if the idea of "we are reinventing a key part of the game in a final attempt to make it better" didn't clue you in that it was an april fools post you clearly haven't followed the game development closely enough.
Oh I wasn’t even talking about the April fools update, moreso the two prior to that. Honestly more effort went into that post than I’ve seen put into the game in a few months. The two prior we got an unfinished dungeon, a pregnancy expac, and a new summon circle lady. Two patches that was spread across
 

Yeppers34

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I honestly am shocked that they aren’t rioting over on the coc2 forums. The last two updates have been virtually empty. Half a month’s worth of updates and this is what the devs managed? It’s honestly insulting to a degree. I used to be a backer a while back and if I still was one I’d be pissed with the content over the last 2 months. I obviously wouldn’t complain to the devs though because they clearly work so hard and we should feel blessed they give us any content at all. Must be nice to get paid to put out a less than mediocre product and get worshipped for it
There's probably been plenty of people complaining in the forums they just probably got banned and the post deleted
 

Warphorror

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Does the Nina quest worth doing? I don't like that character so I've avoided her but if there are some good rewards I'll give it a go or at least try to care.
 

Gameguy614

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Does the Nina quest worth doing? I don't like that character so I've avoided her but if there are some good rewards I'll give it a go or at least try to care.
If you play a mage you get an amulet at the end that’s pretty good, otherwise I’d skip it. Its seemingly unfinished and downright boring honestly
 
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Lolicon Kami

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Nov 3, 2019
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Does the Nina quest worth doing? I don't like that character so I've avoided her but if there are some good rewards I'll give it a go or at least try to care.
If you wanna unlock the option to summon and fuck a salamander girl, go ahead. No futa, you kinda get to dom her.

White skin, green hair, fair breasts, long hair, if that's your thing.
 

Raf-Raf

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Dec 4, 2019
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I honestly am shocked that they aren’t rioting over on the coc2 forums. The last two updates have been virtually empty. Half a month’s worth of updates and this is what the devs managed? It’s honestly insulting to a degree. I used to be a backer a while back and if I still was one I’d be pissed with the content over the last 2 months. I obviously wouldn’t complain to the devs though because they clearly work so hard and we should feel blessed they give us any content at all. Must be nice to get paid to put out a less than mediocre product and get worshipped for it
Banning is a thing~~~
Y'know what they say: "Silence the haters."

Just like how this is pretty much the opposite echo chamber from that place.
Except we do listen and actually point out bullshit when we see it.

*Moral victory.sfx plays*
 
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