Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.33] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[muschi26]

Kitsunes use iron because they don't have tin/bronze deposits, so yes they retained iron forging according to Alypia:

I mean, this is writing we’re talking about, so the causality is inverted: they lack tin because someone wanted them to use iron.

I also find this rationalization funny, because you can make bronze without tin. There are a variety of other metals, such as arsenic or aluminum, which can be alloyed with copper to make bronze, which can be even tougher than traditional tin bronze, and, looking at the melting points of these elements, would likely be a lot easier to produce than iron.

I'm gonna make a guess and say it's The Seven actively sabotaging tech progress to keep people dependent on worship.

I immediately thought of Gor, in which that’s essentially what’s going on.

Samurai and cowboys existed simultaneously for a period of time

this is only tangentially relevant to the conversation but its a fact that makes me happy

Wasn’t that because the Japanese government banned firearms and had an ongoing trade embargo to stop foreigners from coming over to sell them?

 

[jfmherokiller]

Samurai and cowboys existed simultaneously for a period of time

this is only tangentially relevant to the conversation but its a fact that makes me happy

i cant wait for the Samurai vs Cowboys vs Aliens movie in the future.

 

[YouShallNotLol]

Wasn’t that because the Japanese government banned firearms and had an ongoing trade embargo to stop foreigners from coming over to sell them?

First they bought shitton of firearms and learned how to reproduce the guns domestically. Then they put an embargo on trade with foreigners.
But that has little to do with thousands of years of history from before guns were invented.

 

[Badapple2300]

Is there going to be cheats in the game

 

[Warphorror]

The fun fact about the game weapons is that iron weapons are better than bronze ones that bend or break more easily. Also the fact that the "civilized" minothaurs that are based on the roman republic/empire don't use iron is baffling. While iron forging required better furnace, smelting and forging technique it was way better. So I didn't quite understand why the MC is intrigued by the existence of iron weapons.

 

[YouShallNotLol]

Women can be custodes, now. So who knows? You could be a space marine.

 

[muschi26]

But that has little to do with thousands of years of history from before guns were invented.

This was about the simultaneous existence of both samurai and cowboys. There weren’t cowboys before guns were invented.

 

[NODOGAN]

Kitsune still doing iron work= Shitty fox island so shitty Wraiths ignored them during the Godwars, they're THAT irrelevant.

 

[YouShallNotLol]

This was about the simultaneous existence of both samurai and cowboys. There weren’t cowboys before guns were invented.

Well, unlike cowboys, samurai were an actual equivalent of european knights. It was a feudal title.
And actually OG spanish proto-cowboys were there in latin america in 16th century.

But I'm trailing off.
Samurais did modernize, they were wielding muskets for a decade or two. And even had steam battleships.
Before being abolished as a class in 1869.

So a former samurai of meiji restoration period would be rocking a musket alongside his naginata.

 

[Peasantry]

Well, unlike cowboys, samurai were an actual equivalent of european knights. It was a feudal title.
And actually OG spanish proto-cowboys were there in latin america in 16th century.

But I'm trailing off.
Samurais did modernize, they were wielding muskets for a decade or two. And even had steam battleships.
Before being abolished as a class in 1869.

So a former samurai of meiji restoration period would be rocking a musket alongside his naginata.

Look, I just want to imagine a scene where a cowboy sees a samurai do his fancy quickdraw sword shtick, then casually says "but have you tried quickdraw.... with a gun?"

 

[Daken9]

I just finished watching Shogun, and now i want to watch it again. Thanks.

 

[YouShallNotLol]

Look, I just want to imagine a scene where a cowboy sees a samurai do his fancy quickdraw sword shtick, then casually says "but have you tried quickdraw.... with a gun?"

Something like this?

 

[Peasantry]

Something like this?
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Similar, but more like an extension of the adventuring party idea, where the party samurai faces off with another samurai after borrowing the cowboy's six-shooter

 

[nnjagnga333]

Well, unlike cowboys, samurai were an actual equivalent of european knights. It was a feudal title.
And actually OG spanish proto-cowboys were there in latin america in 16th century.

But I'm trailing off.
Samurais did modernize, they were wielding muskets for a decade or two. And even had steam battleships.
Before being abolished as a class in 1869.

So a former samurai of meiji restoration period would be rocking a musket alongside his naginata.

Samurai had firearms from the late 1500s on. They were brought over by the Portuguese before the country was closed off.

 

[Biostar]

With that logic I'm a space marine because I can shoot plasma.


see
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3/4 of that is just Lupin III

 

[arcader000]

Kitsunes use iron because they don't have tin/bronze deposits, so yes they retained iron forging according to Alypia:
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Also no guns due to L O R E from Tobs, the amazing L O R E M A S T E R himself:
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I wonder what asspull they'll make this time.

EDIT: I'm gonna make a guess and say it's The Seven actively sabotaging tech progress to keep people dependent on worship.

What even tychris supposed to be thats the second time I've seen that name dropped. Crazy we need a deep lore reason for no gunpowder, just say there isn't any saltpeter deposits.

 

[Lord Kentus]

What even tychris supposed to be thats the second time I've seen that name dropped. Crazy we need a deep lore reason for no gunpowder, just say there isn't any saltpeter deposits.

For real, early Gun powder could be made from plenty of rather dirty and odd mixtures.

Carbon Black Powder, Sulfur Mixtures, Saltpeter, it was made different all across Europe and bits of Asia for a long, long while, even in America, specifically the South, Black Powder was made different because of the abundance of regional mines.

 

[zwere]

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As historically plausible as your average Hollywood movie.

 

[Skandranon]

There's that thread nuke I was talking about.

 

[Wrynn13]

In a world with magic an easy cop out is that black powder is unstable around magic. Sure you can mix up a batch, if you don't mind losing your eyebrows immediately.