smithsmithsmith

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So, does anyone else get the feeling that the only way you'll be able to get the good end in this will be teaming up with a high affection Kas to defeat wish.com-kefka and help her save the gods so she can be your demon-god dommy-mommy?

or do you think they don't even have the talent for that and it will be an even more generic ripoff of a better story?
I suspect there will be a 'normal' end where you defeat Kas as the final boss, then two or three good to bad ends based on what variation of Kas' plan you end up going along with on the romance path. I would be surprised if they made good/bad end varients of the normal end given how little support dark knight pcs have had so far but that's also possible.
 
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j_ericson

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I still think Kas relationship lock is comedically early. Yeah, cus I totally love the person who just made a bunch of people (well, elves are less than people but still!) lose their souls. Should've saved that shit for Mino city and after learning about Kas' freudian excuse for a while at least.
They are saving it for after Mino city tho.
calise is actually kas and is spilling her actual backstory and goals and then at the reveal the player will have the choice of joining her side
 

j_ericson

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That's true. Why would fucking a demon before you learn her motivations indicate that you want to fuck that demon some more?
 

Tsubuhaza

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Use...mods? CoC2 mods? I thought those were a myth
Meant as in the original CoC got mods. As for CoC2, I do believe there's a fellow that shows up in this thread with an easy fixer for difficulty which is probably the closest this game will get as a mod until the game gets finished.

Good on him and all but it is what it is.
 

harem.king

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Lots of examples. but the most blatant one they openly admit is kinu
Here is a quote out of her design document.
"Once out, she'll have grown into a young woman of about 18, enough to tease all the Helspawn incest demanders and yet be kept out of their reach forever."

From the Child Kinu design document.

And I believe in his forum post for his works, he goes into more detail but I'm not trudging through that.
For some context. Savin wrote an incest daughter in a project termed "helspawn" (the daughter of helia) in CoC1.
people asked him to finish it.
he got extremely angry at being asked to finish his own project that he started. (a very common theme with him) that he made kinu entirely to spite those people.

Also this forum post by the writer for kinu. tobs explicitly says she was a spite project.
tobs self identifies as a "mean spirited psychic vampire" and is the top attack dog of savin (having personally went after writers who displease savin by being more popular or not letting savin shit their characters up. like wsan who writes the taur waifu who is the number 1 most popular waifu. and who tobs sneaked in some cuck content for against their rules specifically to spite wsan because he didn't permit savin to write for her.

You can also see this post here

tobs kinu was a spite project and a salt mine.png
where tobs EXPLICITLY states that kinu is a "spite project and a salt mine".

It is worth noting that the vast majority of people being fucked over by that spite project were not even asking for incest with her.
They literally turned her mom abusive towards your daughter, made you miss kinu's childhood, made kinu hate you the player who is her father, made BOTH kinu and her mother suddenly become racist against you the player, and forcibly humiliate you the player in some weird psuedo cuckoldry where you are also forced to say things like a fucking doormat.

And the entire thing is completely unavoidable. they tease you with avoiding it... but it is a trap to make you make things worse.
If you try to stop the first arranged marriage candidate (who unironically has the official motto of "While you were partying, he studied the blade and has 2 action points") who is hostile towards you and also racist against you and literally tells you he wants to kill you when you meet.
then it just makes kinu hate you even more and go with another pissant instead.

And then they spent likely thousands of dollars to comission a TON of art of her being fucked and posted it everywhere.
In fact, tob's avatar is from this commissioned art.

Then for another example you have etheruined.
Etheryn was a femboi male who identified as female and had as goal becoming a real woman. something entirely doable with magic.
which required a quest to remove his enchanted chastity cage.

savin got so angry at being asked to finish etheryn that he decided to shit all over the fans of the char by...
having him take of the chastity cage, get a giant bitch breaker, cuck the MC, and change his mind about being a girl.
from now on he is gonna stay a boy forever. get cucked player.
how dare you ask savin to finish a project.

Savin is repeatedly bullying his employees (the other writers), and spiting both them and his fans. he is a malicious boss.
 
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Unobtainium

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savin got so angry at being asked to finish etheryn that he decided to shit all over the fans of the char by...
having him take of the chastity cage, get a giant bitch breaker
I hold my tongue at a lot of Ryn slander but this is where I draw the line. Ryn is one of the few characters in this game with a completely normal sized penis.
 

harem.king

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I hold my tongue at a lot of Ryn slander but this is where I draw the line. Ryn is one of the few characters in this game with a completely normal sized penis.
from official wiki.


before and after the redesign:
v1 of etheryn
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notice him having a clitty

v2 of etheryn
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compare the penis to the arm. you will notice the penis diameter is slightly greater than his bicep.
He could literally fist a girl and she will be less stretched out than if he had used his penis.
Also the penis reaches all the way up to his sternum. measure that distance on your own body.
also balls massively increased too.

If you ignore the official art and only look at the official numbers.
they claim his cock grew from 4" to 7" when the cage was removed. the art exaggerates those figures.
but even still 7" is in the top 1% of cock sizes IRL.

the physical change is less bullshit then the personality change. as ryn completely forgot about becoming a woman, completely forgot about the failed attempts to transform into a woman, and now is determined to keep his penis. and also cuck the MC.
 
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j_ericson

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Ok i don't know where to start.
Kinu is a spite project, sure, but why do you care about how tobs spends his own money? Only thing drawn on the patrons dime was the single piece of himekinu art. None of the other art is even in the game to bother you.
Tobs has plenty of issues writing for an interactive medium like video games. He is very traditional and visual novelly in his approach which means a lot of railroading. But its less spite and more that he just doesn't want to or can't change his style.
He's not an attack dog. He got an idea for something deeper than this game has the right to tackle and flubbed the execution. As is the case with plenty of his content. He used to have a bigger presence in the community until he withdrew due to having to get reigned in for his outbursts against writers and players.
Can you really blame savin for getting angry at people demanding he write something he doesn't want to? You're getting angry at stuff you have very little right to in this forum.
About ryn you are regurgitating what this forum has been swirling without any basis in reality. Savin loves dickgirls, more importantly dickgirls getting fucked in the ass, so thinking that he would write a companion whose job is to lose the dick is absurd. And she doesn't cuck you. If you don't like taking it up the ass that's a you problem and you are free to never do the quest that removes the cage.
 
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