Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.45] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Tsubuhaza]

There was a little bit of an argument, it seemed.The guy currently writing Azami stuff wanted to paint the drunk as a terrible person who was alway a manipulative liar even when not drunk, presumably to give a reason for them to break it off permanently, and several people took issue with that as it seemed pretty far from both the intended characterization and the little thats in game, and took issue with his alcoholism being dismissed as an issue.

People are a bit leery of ended up with another Hugs situation and taking a character in a completely different (and mostly negative) direction, especially since teeeechnically Bubbles is just on a longish break, AND since he's writing an Azami expansion by throwing Taka under the bus, which messes up the plans of anyone who was planning on writing for Taka (which someone apparently was).

SO there was talk of two routes, one where they break up (and Taka kinda gets his shit together afterwards after hitting rock bottom) and one where they get together.

Though tbh, the former one is currently FAR more likely, as it was the one actually being written.

Isn't that a bit funny in retrospect? I get why but not being able to reform the drunkard because his writer isn't around to OK it feels like a bit of a punchline.

That said, couldn't they just make it an alternative, then? Not like this game doesn't have locked off content as it is, right?

Look, as Bio implied, a lot of my attraction stems from his bust and he looks. What can I say, I am an easily swindled girl.

But do not not missjudge it. I am not claiming that he is some kind of saint. I like him because he is a dick and a failure. From what little we know of him, he is a sore loser that can not live with the fact that not matter how many boots he licks, he will never amount to something in Kitsune society. For it is a faulty system that values social standing over personal aptitude.

And it would be one thing if game lets him off scot free. But no. Unless he marries your daughter or rindo, he is stuck as a perpetual failure.

All those things just make me want to actually fuck him. He has that hardcore tsundere appeal that I, and many others, fine appealing.

Yeah, but that's the thing. You're jumping from one thing to something way bigger there. I'm not going to tell you what to like or dislike, that's really up to you. Same with anyone that's ever posted here, defending the game or not, it's up to them and I'm not (and never should be) at the position where I can just tell people what they should enjoy.

But the same characteristics that you enjoy on him are the characteristics that we dislike and therefore, part of why we despise him. So he's not overhated, it's merely how each person feels about him. Like him all you want but the vitriol is deserved on his end.

 

[M0nte]

But the same characteristics that you enjoy on him are the characteristics that we dislike and therefore, part of why we despise him. So he's not overhated, it's merely how each person feels about him. Like him all you want but the vitriol is deserved on his end.

I think he is overhated because, quite frankly, he is so easy to ignore. Unless you have Hime Kinu, the most you need to interact with him is when he gives you a quest. And even outside of it, he is so limited in terms of content (owing to his dissinterest in talking to you in universe and Tobs dissinterest in writing for him) that his snobishness does not really go that far.

There is not really much there to cause such strong vitriol here.

 

[YouShallNotLol]

I think he is overhated because, quite frankly, he is so easy to ignore. Unless you have Hime Kinu, the most you need to interact with him is when he gives you a quest. And even outside of it, he is so limited in terms of content (owing to his dissinterest in talking to you in universe and Tobs dissinterest in writing for him) that his snobishness does not really go that far.

There is not really much there to cause such strong vitriol here.

It is so easy to ignore if I cut off one of your arms. You still have the other arm, so you should just ignore missing one of them.

There is not really much there to cause such strong vitriol here.

 

[M0nte]

It is so easy to ignore if I cut off one of your arms. You still have the other arm, so you should just ignore missing one of them.

There is not really much there to cause such strong vitriol here.

Oh no! My arm! Curse you! Even though I kept asking you to cut it; even though I could have easily ignored you; even though I gave you my saw that was just there to gather some wood; even though I myself had to finish it off cause you yourself could not saw it off I did it all because I needed something to complain about -- curse you all the same!

 

[The Permanent War Economy]

Ngl the only thing the foxes seriously had going for them was the fact they were the only race NOT to have any futas, because lore.

And then along came Savin—

 

[M0nte]

Ngl the only thing the foxes seriously had going for them was the fact they were the only race NOT to have any futas, because lore.

And then along came Savin—

Technically, Hanna is a trans dgirl.

 

[The Permanent War Economy]

Tecnically, Hanna is a trans dgirl.

Forgive me for the capital crime of grouping “anything with tits and a penis” under the umbrella of “futa”, your pedanticness. It’s all the same shit underneath the coat of paint.

 

[M0nte]

Forgive me for the capital crime of grouping “anything with tits and a penis” under the umbrella of “futa”, your pedanticness. It’s all the same shit underneath the coat of paint.

Not forgiven. To the pits with you!

 

[Skandranon]

Isn't that a bit funny in retrospect? I get why but not being able to reform the drunkard because his writer isn't around to OK it feels like a bit of a punchline.

That said, couldn't they just make it an alternative, then? Not like this game doesn't have locked off content as it is, right?

No, no, backwards.

The current writer of Azami WASNT going to redeem him, he was basically going to have him just be a terrible person so the girl comes to her senses and dumps him. That's what people were taking issue with; just tossing him under the bus so it was easy to take a shot at Azami.

I'm not sure what was decided on (the writer of course has the final say) but the general sentiment was negative towards that idea and leaning towards at the very least having choices.

Personally I'd be fine with the thruple if my futa girl could top both of them.

 

[M0nte]

Personally I'd be fine with the thruple if my futa girl could top both of them.

My man!

Lets line their asses up and lets commemorate the couples reunion by the ways of the "balls deep".

 

[Tsubuhaza]

No, no, backwards.

The current writer of Azami WASNT going to redeem him, he was basically going to have him just be a terrible person so the girl comes to her senses and dumps him. That's what people were taking issue with; just tossing him under the bus so it was easy to take a shot at Azami.

I'm not sure what was decided on (the writer of course has the final say) but the general sentiment was negative towards that idea and leaning towards at the very least having choices.

...Oh, then that's just stupid. You ought to give people choices whenever you can, anyway. And if the writer has a moan, just have said writer come up with a point of divergence and let it be open for someone else to write the redeem path or something.

I think he is overhated because, quite frankly, he is so easy to ignore. Unless you have Hime Kinu, the most you need to interact with him is when he gives you a quest. And even outside of it, he is so limited in terms of content (owing to his dissinterest in talking to you in universe and Tobs dissinterest in writing for him) that his snobishness does not really go that far.

There is not really much there to cause such strong vitriol here.

I can't quite recall which Kinu I got, think it was the low-cut dress one but I do remember him showing up, which is where I got my distaste of him. Truth be told, that kitsune den as a whole was quite enough. I like my eyes not rolling over for half an hour.

 

[M0nte]

Hime Cucks... When will they all learn?

 

[InquisitorTobi]

Look, as Bio implied, a lot of my attraction stems from his bust and he looks. What can I say, I am an easily swindled girl.

I can respect the honesty

 

[Tsubuhaza]

Hime Cucks... When will they all learn?

Eh, when they start to dedick the futas, probably.

 

[Skandranon]

...Oh, then that's just stupid. You ought to give people choices whenever you can, anyway. And if the writer has a moan, just have said writer come up with a point of divergence and let it be open for someone else to write the redeem path or something.

That's actually exactly where they seemed to have landed. He mentioned softening the part where they break up to leave room for a redemption arc where you get them back together (less of the drunk just being a terrible person and more him just failing to get his shit together wothout your help), and the writer who wants to write basically what Bubs wanted may take up that part (incidentally, he's the guy who has some Quinn stuff in the works and mentioned wanting to write for all Bubs' characters).

But again, who knows how much of this actually happens?

 

[YouShallNotLol]

Hime Cucks... When will they all learn?

Never. I noticed that even people I tend to agree with, are going with Hime Kinu.

"The mice cried, got pricked, but continued to eat the cactus."

 

[Yeppers34]

Never. I noticed that even people I tend to agree with, are going with Hime Kinu.

"The mice cried, got pricked, but continued to eat the cactus."

I always preferred the more reserved kinu. Her interactions with the PC felt less fake and out of obligation compared to the hime one.

 

[thecatcameback]

If I had to go with a Kinu, farmer one is the good one. She's got better plot hooks, what with butting heads with her mom and being a bit off step with her culture. Her coming out as her mom's clone without issues (except for the player) is pretty lame.

 

[Biostar]

I'm not sure what was decided on (the writer of course has the final say) but the general sentiment was negative towards that idea and leaning towards at the very least having choices.

If one of the choices isn't fucking her in front of him, I don't really care.

Hime Cucks... When will they all learn?

After being saddled with a whole ass family I'm not interested in interacting with anymore. I visit Kohaku and Rindo more than I do Kiyoko or Kinu now. Atleast they're not being assholes to their baby daddy.

 

[MoneyMan181]

Hime Cucks... When will they all learn?

There's nothing to learn. I visited Kiyoko every night for like 2 months in game, interacted with Kinu every time I went in when she was born, then let them out of the orb as soon as I could.

Fuck me for trying to be a decent person and free them from literal fucking purgatory instead of grinding events in order to get the "better" Kinu. It's just dogshit game design.