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Is there a lot of actual art in this game? Or is it a shit load of text and a little bit of art?
most characters have at least two pictures of them and there are a few cgs but it's mostly text
 

NODOGAN

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This is going to sound funny but i never really payed Kas too much attention/assumed her to just be the big bad final boss (and admitingly after the 7th text-wall in a row i just skim through most text wanting to get to gameplay) but fuck it, i'm abit bored, gonna try and make a fun Black Mage char, figured i should spice things up abit and be friendly to Kas this time around and see what's her deal.

TLDR: ANY tips when Dealing with Kassyrra in a friendly manner folks? i don't wanna get bad ending so i'll likely keep using Sanders to purify whatever corruption she gives me, but anything other than that i should be doing?
 

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This is going to sound funny but i never really payed Kas too much attention/assumed her to just be the big bad final boss (and admitingly after the 7th text-wall in a row i just skim through most text wanting to get to gameplay) but fuck it, i'm abit bored, gonna try and make a fun Black Mage char, figured i should spice things up abit and be friendly to Kas this time around and see what's her deal.

TLDR: ANY tips when Dealing with Kassyrra in a friendly manner folks? i don't wanna get bad ending so i'll likely keep using Sanders to purify whatever corruption she gives me, but anything other than that i should be doing?
Be friendly to her in the dream. How you treat her in the tutorial has no effect on your relationship later IIRC.
And don't suck her dick or something over and over after the Alraune encounter, that will trigger a bad end.
 
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NODOGAN

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Be friendly to her in the dream. How you treat her in the tutorial has no effect on your relationship later IIRC.
And don't suck her dick or something over and over after the Alraune encounter, that will trigger a bad end.
So if i domm her/am the one fucking her and not the other way around things will be ok?
 

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Be friendly to her in the dream. How you treat her in the tutorial has no effect on your relationship later IIRC.
And don't suck her dick or something over and over after the Alraune encounter, that will trigger a bad end.
I think by "bad end" he meant the corrupt ending.
 

Archaon11111

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So if i domm her/am the one fucking her and not the other way around things will be ok?
Yeah, just keep having sex with her and you'll know you're on the romance path when on Winter city you have the option to walk up to her and kiss her plus she gives a lot of backstory/exposition.
 
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NODOGAN

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Yeah, just keep having sex with her and you'll know you're on the romance path when on Winter city you have the option to walk up to her and kiss her plus she gives a lot of backstory/exposition.
Thanks, oh last thing: if i equip the orb with Kiyoko do i still get Kass dream scenes on the regular or that interferes cuz Tob's precious Fox Babies demand more of my sleep time? xD
 

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Thanks, oh last thing: if i equip the orb with Kiyoko do i still get Kass dream scenes on the regular or that interferes cuz Tob's precious Fox Babies demand more of my sleep time? xD
If My memory serves me well there are no problems. You have a kass dream scenes every time you meet her minus halloween event
 

OofSs

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Again? That sucks B announced he would get a pussy in the future a few weeks ago
Oh for fucks sake. The stuff B anounced was amazing. I was really waiting for sub Berwyn or power bottom berwyn. Fucking hell.
Yeah, he was handed over to B. Kind of old news.
Speaking of this, I actually found the main reason why Hugs left CoC2. Supposedly, Savin milked Hugs out of free content and the whole turning Berwyn into a female might be spite content directed to him as a result. I actually feel bad for the dude.

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Even Frogapus from TiTs doesn’t like Savin.
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Well, at least we know that not everyone on the Dev team sucks Savin’s ass.
 
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Archaon11111

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Thanks, oh last thing: if i equip the orb with Kiyoko do i still get Kass dream scenes on the regular or that interferes cuz Tob's precious Fox Babies demand more of my sleep time? xD
It won't interfere don't worry about it, also funny fact if you kiss Kas during Winter City with Kiyoko as a companion she just gives you a death stare compared to everyone else having a funny reaction or simply jaw dropping twist.

Like Brienne complains if its because Kas has bigger boobs than her and Cait just gets confused as fuck.
 
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Speaking of this, I actually found the main reason why Hugs left CoC2. Supposedly, Savin milked Hugs out of free content and the whole turning Berwyn into a female might be spite content directed to him as a result. I actually feel bad for the dude.

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Even Frogapus from TiTs doesn’t like Savin.
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Well, at least we know that not everyone on the Dev team sucks Savin’s ass.
That is pretty scummy yeah Savin is a known asshole and I noticed Hug's either banned or account is deleted on Fenoxo forum. He should've set up an actual contract to avoid having his creations and content used without permission. Like seriously the amount of money these projects make are insane (100k dollars from steam alone) its a big mistake not having any insurance over stuff like this.
 
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OofSs

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That is pretty scummy yeah Savin is a known asshole and I noticed Hug's either banned or account is deleted on Fenoxo forum. He should've set up an actual contract to avoid having his creations and content used without permission.
And this is why I stick to TiTs only now. It seems every time I go on this thread, something Savin does ends up taking the fun out of everything. It just never ends :LUL: At least, Fenoxo is more patient and nicer to his content writers despite how much he lags on the storyline in TiTs.
 

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I am not sure what to do with this type of information. It just sounds so vague. Like what mental illness? Why did he he not get paid for his work? Did he chose as so? Did he not have any contracts to secure some type fall back if all of this does not work out? Why was Hugs hard to work with?

Lets just no go on witch hunt here-
 

OofSs

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I am not sure what to do with this type of information. It just sounds so vague. Like what mental illness? Why did he he not get paid for his work? Did he chose as so? Did he not have any contracts to secure some type fall back if all of this does not work out? Why was Hugs hard to work with?

Lets just no go on witch hunt here-
From what I remember, he said he had various mental illnesses. He never specified them, but he has said he was almost as sick like NightTrap. Thinking back at the posts on the forums, he would snap at people for no reason though that was awhile back, I don’t know if he still acted out like that after her semi-inactivity. So, that could explain one reason he was hard to work with.

I actually thought Hugs was part of the staff team the entire time if I remembered correctly. It seems that even if you are part of the staff, it doesn’t mean you get paid as one like Wsan and Tobs does. I wonder if Skow even gets paid for their writing too. I think the reason why Hugs didn’t really want to get paid for his work is because he took it as a fun little hobby than an actual job. That’s what most the writers do anyways which is why you don’t see most of them writing so much like Savin and Tobs (well he’s a different case, but you all know why that is).

As for the contracts, I’m pretty sure Savin gives you one the moment you do your first submission and that’s basically him being able to profit and commercialize your work.
 
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From what I remember, he said he had various mental illnesses. He never specified them, but he has said he was almost as sick like NightTrap. Thinking back at the posts on the forums, he would snap at people for no reason though that was awhile back, I don’t know if he still did it that after her semi-inactivity. So, that could explain one thing that could explain he was hard to work with. I actually thought Hugs was part of the staff team too. It seems that even if you are part of the staff, it doesn’t mean you get paid for it like Wsan and Tobs does. I wonder if Skow even gets paid for their writing too. I think the reason why Hugs didn’t really want to get paid for his work is because he took it as a fun little hobby than an actual job. That’s what most the writers do anyways which is why you don’t see most of them writing so much like Savin and Tobs (well he’s a different case, but you all know why that is).

As for the contacts, I’m pretty sure Savin gives you one the moment you do your first submission and that’s basically him being able to profit and commercialize your work.
Most of the writers on this project are not contracted/constant workers. Some of them write stuff for free since they enjoy the game (think of it as more prolific fan fiction writing), most are payed project at the time and only a couple were actual full time writers.As in having constant paychecks. Along with Tobs (as of recently) and Savin, Wsan, SKoW and Balak are only others that are like that. Everyone else either gets payed by how much work they are commisioned for or by the word.

Now I am not sure what Hugs was, but from what I can guess, he should have probably have been someone like William/B. Where he gets paid project at the time. Did he do it? I guess not.

As for being kicked out for his mental illness. Well, while it is something I am not comftrable with, an employee usually has ability to kick someone if they are difficult to deal with. Even if it is something outsides workers control. So, if Hugs was difficult to work with, Savin had the right to dissalove him to work.

As for altering his work that is already inside of the game. I mean, yeah it sucks for hugs, but really, what are they supposed to do? Leave Berwyn, one of the companions, just sitting there? Now yes, altering doggy boy beyond Alrights image of character does suck for hugs, but it is not first time this happened in these types of games. Like, you are signing off your in game (keyword In game) characters to Savin if you implement them in. Expect if they are guest cameos/you already have TM ownership of them I would guess. Kind of like how Brawl is able to exist. So without it, all of the stuff he has worked on is fair game. Still, based on there workers agreement, Hugs still can use all of his personal characters freely. Savin is just able to use versions that are inside of the game.

Still, once again, I am working with incomplete information. I can not really throw stones at either direction. So, untill/if we get some new information, I am just going to leave myself with the feeling of indifference.
 
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OofSs

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Most of the writers on this project are not contracted/constant workers. Some of them write stuff for free since they enjoy the game (think of it as more prolific fan fiction writing), most are payed project at the time and only a couple were actual full time writers.As in having constant paychecks. Along with Tobs (as of recently) and Savin, Wsan, SKoW and Balak are only others that are like that. Everyone else either gets payed by how much work they get paid for the project or by the word.

Now I am not sure what Hugs was, but from what I can guess, he should have probably have been someone like William/B. Where he gets paid project at the time. Did he do it? I guess not.

As for being kicked out for his mental ilness. Well, while it is something I am not comftrable with, an employee usually has ability to kick someone if they are difficult to deal with. Even if it is something outsides workers control. So, if Hugs was difficult to work with, Savin had the right to dissalove him to work.

As for altering his work that is already inside of the game. I mean, yeah it sucks for hugs, but really, what are they supposed to do? Leave Berwyn, one of the companions just sitting there? Now yes, altering doggy boy beyond Alrights image of character does suck for hugs, but it is not first time this happened in these types of games. Like, you are signing off your characters to Savin if you implement them in. Expect if they are guest cameos.
I’m aware of that, I’m talking about the agreement that Savin gives to writers when they submit something.

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So, I’m assuming Hugs “threw a fit” which is why Savin is letting people change his content without his approval now.

Still, based on there workers agreement, Hugs still can use all of his personal characters freely. Savin is just able to use versions that are inside of the game.
Yeah, I believe that’s how it goes. I’m not sure if Berwyn was commissioned by Savin in particular or Hug’s own creation. As long as it’s Hug’s creation, at least he will be able to write his own version of Berwyn outside of CoC2.
 
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I am not sure what to do with this type of information. It just sounds so vague. Like what mental illness? Why did he he not get paid for his work? Did he chose as so? Did he not have any contracts to secure some type fall back if all of this does not work out? Why was Hugs hard to work with?

Lets just no go on witch hunt here-
i'd never defend savin, but...
"hard to work with because of my mental illness" could mean so many things, dude could have off the wall bipolar impossible to deal with. We've all seen the "drama queen" personalities involved in the creation of this game, now imagine one of those with an actual diagnosed mental illness.

Oh i guess Hugs also made "JinJin" the monkey in the gym, only "fusata" in the game.
 
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Bloep

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Speaking of this, I actually found the main reason why Hugs left CoC2. Supposedly, Savin milked Hugs out of free content and the whole turning Berwyn into a female might be spite content directed to him as a result. I actually feel bad for the dude.

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Even Frogapus from TiTs doesn’t like Savin.
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Well, at least we know that not everyone on the Dev team sucks Savin’s ass.
And this is why you don't work for free for people on the internet you've never even met IRL
 

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I am not sure what to do with this type of information. It just sounds so vague. Like what mental illness? Why did he he not get paid for his work? Did he chose as so? Did he not have any contracts to secure some type fall back if all of this does not work out? Why was Hugs hard to work with?

Lets just no go on witch hunt here-
I never thought I'd say this, but I agree. Who knows what actually happened? Hugs can't exactly be relied upon to give an unbiased account, so we should reserve judgement until someone else comes forward.
 
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