RenH

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This, honestly i've grown to enjoy my party, but we need more love towards the playerbase, still can't understand how can they be so petty towards the player base like...bitch they making you money and care about your stupid ass proyect, YOU SHOULD BE ON YOUR KNEES, GIVING THANKS!
If I were in their shoes, I can definitely see where they get their attitude from. Knowing full well that my product is one of the best in an already niche market, having the dough, manpower and skill to deliver on a somewhat consistent basis, who else are these people supposed to turn to? Most of them probably stick to the public builds anyway so why even bother with them when I can just cater to the patrons and people that sing me praises?

Besides, it's my product, not our product. I can do whatever I want with it lmao. Cry harder.

I'm just glad that some competitors exist because I dread to think how the writers would be if this were a monopoly.
 
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If I were in their shoes, I can definitely see where they get their attitude from. Knowing full well that my product is one of the best in an already niche market, having the dough, manpower and skill to deliver on a somewhat consistent basis, who else are these people supposed to turn to? Most of them probably stick to the public builds anyway so why even bother with them when I can just cater to the patrons and people that sing me praises?

Besides, it's my product, not our product. I can do whatever I want with it lmao. Cry harder.

I'm just glad that some competitors exist because I dread to think how the writers would be if this were a monopoly.
Whatever dude, maybe i'm just old fashioned but i think there oughta be some level of respect for your consumer base, otherwise everything becomes micro-transaction hell like E.A wants.
 

WazaQQXOXO

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Whatever dude, maybe i'm just old fashioned but i think there oughta be some level of respect for your consumer base, otherwise everything becomes micro-transaction hell like E.A wants.
I am pretty sure that their patreons don’t have any issues with the way Savin is handling CoC II development. Just look at the Graphtreon data: earnings have been stable for a while. If people were fed up by the content of the last couple of updates offer, cancelling the subscription would be the best way to send a message to Saving.

I am pretty confident a mass cancellation will never happen.
 

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What are the characters that are romanceable to gay male characters in this game?
You have Jin-Jin, other than that there's not really a male character exclusive to males.
You're going to be able to marry Brint, but he's Bi and is going to have a harem.
You're going to be able to be a concubine of Takahiro after you help him.
Don't bother with Garret because he's one of the only straight people in this game.
You don't have too many options
 
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sometimes i wonder if i'm going to be a bad person for wanting garret to be bi or for us to find brint's father and have sex with him or if brint dares to pronounce something about a harem pretending that he never said anything.
 

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Updated wrong information*. I think there's a difference between the situation you mentioned and the one I was talking about. You were talking information on the wiki being outdated because some things got reworked and the editors haven't had the time to change that entry yet (they at least are aware of that needing an update, there's some kind of control). I was talking about people updating entries with wrong information which is a bigger issue since you need to have someone constantly keeping track of what people are changing on the wiki, checking if what they added is accurate or if something suddenly got deleted.

I don't think it's weird that they want to have a way to supervise what goes in and out of the wiki, and the easiest way to do that is keeping it private. I don't really get why it bothers you so much.
Nope, same thing. It's still wrong information and again, the DR changes were made in update 0.2.30... back in
So I laugh when you tell me they haven't had time to update it. Not only have they not updated the wiki, they haven't even updated the ingame codex.

I've administrated and fixed several wikis. It's not hard to manage one and no you don't need someone to CONSTANTLY keep track, as there are often also users willing to amend mistakes. It is apparent you have zero experience in this. It's frustrating when you see an easy fix for code/grammatical/misinformation but yet you and 99.9% of their users are inconvenienced to fix it. HENCE, why there are so few editors and why it's very out-of-date, if that wasn't already the most damning piece of evidence against making it private. It's absurd they'd make it private when they obviously have ZERO desire to update it themselves.
To drive this point home, <1% of the wiki is written by the staff. The majority of edits within the last year are made by one user for CoC2, and this is their profile:
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And this is just a random user. He is not part of the staff, but he is responsible for most of the recent wiki. Is he the one who administrates it or makes it private? No, so it's senseless that the Fen staff holds and restricts it AT ALL when they'd be better off passing the wiki to someone who actually gives a shit enough to administrate it. Also, no, I doubt they are aware considering the person who put up those "outdated information" tags is...
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The fact you're willing to defend it leads me to believe you're blowing the entire Fen team as you typed that. The only reason they made the wiki was for mere ownership. They do not maintain nor update it, much less supervise it at all. You opened your mouth without knowing anything and now are an utter fool. Good day.
 

RenH

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Whatever dude, maybe i'm just old fashioned but i think there oughta be some level of respect for your consumer base, otherwise everything becomes micro-transaction hell like E.A wants.
Oh no, I don't disagree with you at all, if anything I am 100% on board with it. That's just me voicing out what I think they're thinking to try and make sense of...well, all this.

Which is why the only triple-A studio games I play are DOOM:Eternal and the Ace Combat franchise since I can definitely see not just the love of their craft but also the respect for the fans that helped them to get there. In terms of games on this site, that same honor goes to My Tuition Academia and Corrupted Kingdoms.

Two different games, two different devs but yet they not only deliver their respective content consistently and at good quality, but also they respect their fans, especially the dev for My Tuition Academia. When they first declared that they wanted to improve how pregnancy was handled in game, they could have just gone ahead with they thought was best and be done with it. But no, instead, they asked for opinions on this very site and actually implemented some of the suggestions given.

Now that is a dev I want to support wholeheartedly.
 

RenH

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I am pretty sure that their patreons don’t have any issues with the way Savin is handling CoC II development. Just look at the Graphtreon data: earnings have been stable for a while. If people were fed up by the content of the last couple of updates offer, cancelling the subscription would be the best way to send a message to Saving.

I am pretty confident a mass cancellation will never happen.
Exactly. That's the point I'm trying to get at. It doesn't matter how much we--or even those in the Fen forums--complain, gripe or criticise. As long as their core supporter base still provides them that cashflow, they won't care since people like ourselves aren't the ones throwing money at them. Heck, there's even some here that want to make content surrounding their product either through spite modding or writing for a character about to be removed.

At the end of the day, to them, our criticisms are temporary, but Cait is eternal.
 
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muschi26

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Exactly. That's the point I'm trying to get at. It doesn't matter how much we--or even those in the Fen forums--complain, gripe or criticise. As long as their core supporter base still provides them that cashflow, they won't care since people like ourselves aren't the ones throwing money at them. Heck, there's even some here that want to make content surrounding their product either through spite modding or writing for a character about to be removed.

At the end of the day, to them, our criticisms are temporary, but Cait is eternal.
Eh, I like Cait alright. I just wish you could knock her up… :sneaky:

Which character is getting removed?
 
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RenH

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Eh, I like Cait alright. I just wish you could knock her up… :sneaky:

Which character is getting removed?
Some big-dicked elf boi iirc that keeps popping up in the forest very frequently that annoyed a lot of people.
Edit: In case you haven't kept up with the thread, it's been revealed that Savin plans for Cait preg to be an ending thing, not a mechanic.
 
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Some big-dicked elf boi iirc that keeps popping up in the forest very frequently that annoyed a lot of people.
Edit: In case you haven't kept up with the thread, it's been revealed that Savin plans for Cait preg to be an ending thing, not a mechanic.
You already get the option to never encounter him again, so what’s the point of removing him outright at that point?

That’s a RIP for Cait. At least it’ll still happen, even if it’s just an ending. I’ll start praying for the quest to fix Lusamine’s womb from now on I guess.
 
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Raf-Raf

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You already get the option to never encounter him again, so what’s the point of removing him outright at that point?

That’s a RIP for Cait. At least it’ll still happen, even if it’s just an ending. I’ll start praying for the quest to fix Lusamine’s womb from now on I guess.
Now that's just shallow.
Even if it's just an ending? Hell nah, in this game full of lust-driven people who want to or be knocked up, there's no way in hell we'd be satisfied to see our Prostitute Priestess to be knocked up only in a fucking ending.

The only annoying part about that elf boi is the fact that his RNG chance to appear is way too high, everyone would've been fine if it ain't that damn common.

There's nothing good in dealing with him too, at least the trio of girls has a free exp / party time fun times but this guy???
This beta's a damn annoyance.
 

Raf-Raf

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Bruh remind me what kind of game this is? lmao

idk, as y’all said, they dgaf what we want, so I’ll just take what I can get.

(fr I like Lusamine better anyway)
Hey now they could've already fixed Lusamine's womb defect if she goes to the Tanuki Witch but nooooo~~~
There's probably a grand questline too like how we'll have to fuck Cait's ass after a holy grail quest someday.

I know what this piece of shit they call a game is, that's why Copium exists so I can still hallucinate of this game being good.
 

NODOGAN

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Wait, they removing Elfboi Mc-RGN from the forest period?
Can't believe i'm saying this but good idea! never liked that asshole and TBH some of it's RGN could be given to Vivian/The Forest Witch.
 

WazaQQXOXO

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Exactly. That's the point I'm trying to get at. It doesn't matter how much we--or even those in the Fen forums--complain, gripe or criticise. As long as their core supporter base still provides them that cashflow, they won't care since people like ourselves aren't the ones throwing money at them. Heck, there's even some here that want to make content surrounding their product either through spite modding or writing for a character about to be removed.

At the end of the day, to them, our criticisms are temporary, but Cait is eternal.
There’s a glint of hope, an Anon posted that he managed to write new scenes / edit new ones. He just did it out of pure spite. Never underestimate the power of weaponised autism.
 

Raf-Raf

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There’s a glint of hope, an Anon posted that he managed to write new scenes / edit new ones. He just did it out of pure spite. Never underestimate the power of weaponised autism.
Then we must put our faith in that anon.
Maybe cash too for motivation.
 
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