Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.33] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Raf-Raf]

Second one in a nutshell so far:
You begin your tale as a native nobody, and you end your tale as a nobody except more popular and with party members that overshadow you by a mile. Remind me why you're here again?

You play as a nobody who'll change the world by fucking anything that has a hole in their body.
Next one's your companion, she can fuck longer than anyone else in this planet.

Next one's the main villain, A character who came from the prequel, watch as they slowly ruin her character to shit as she tries to create a portal that summons more content in this game.

With your combined power and libido, you two will save this world by filling them with hope and anything else you can fill.

Become friends with other generic NPCs by becoming fuck buddies and together you will create the Ultimate Orgy that can make the main villain want to join your damn harem.

Unite everyone under one banner, under one genital or two and take down the greatest generic villain anyone has ever seen in a damn porn game.

Will they succeed? Only you can find out by playing this piece of shit they call a damn sequel.

 

[Fleep]

Nice. Just curious, why the Frostwood and not the fort?

Because she's still somewhat an enemy (a frenemy?). She was one of Alissa's closest friends so she's still on her side and looking for her just like we are. Ideally, there will be different routes depending on what we do with her (respecting her choice and letting her go to Alissa or imprisoning her)

 

[Doras]

Curious why people complain about the main story in this game when it is not very different at all from the first.

Complaints like these

You play as a nobody who'll change the world by fucking anything that has a hole in their body.

With your combined power and libido, you two will save this world by filling them with hope and anything else you can fill.

Become friends with other generic NPCs by becoming fuck buddies and together you will create the Ultimate Orgy that can make the main villain want to join your damn harem.

Unite everyone under one banner, under one genital or two and take down the greatest generic villain anyone has ever seen in a damn porn game.

Just don't make any sense if you are also saying the first game's story was good.

The way the game is played with moving around the tiles and whatnot is worse for me than the first game, but that's not the criticisms these sorts of people have with the game. They criticise the game for having certain problems with the story yet praise the first despite having the exact same problems.

 

[BlacJak]

Curious why people complain about the main story in this game when it is not very different at all from the first.

Complaints like these


Just don't make any sense if you are also saying the first game's story was good.

The way the game is played with moving around the tiles and whatnot is worse for me than the first game, but that's not the criticisms these sorts of people have with the game. They criticise the game for having certain problems with the story yet praise the first despite having the exact same problems.

I think the point is because the first game was mostly just Fen writing everything himself, with some additions from the community later on, whereas this one is a "team" of people raking in tens of thousands of dollars a month, and it's pretty much the same quality. Like 10 years ago this would be okay, but with the amount of money you're making and the changes in tech and coding practices, you would have expected more.

 

[Raf-Raf]

Curious why people complain about the main story in this game when it is not very different at all from the first.

Complaints like these


Just don't make any sense if you are also saying the first game's story was good.

The way the game is played with moving around the tiles and whatnot is worse for me than the first game, but that's not the criticisms these sorts of people have with the game. They criticise the game for having certain problems with the story yet praise the first despite having the exact same problems.

Just like this one above me, They're doing the same thing except this one's a scuffed version of that one.

The first one had a taste of spite writing but this one is MOSTLY spite writing.

The first game at least had me allowed to do some stuff I WANNA DO, This one doesn't, this "sequel" forces THEIR things to ME.
The first one's a lot older but goddamn is it still a lot better than this piece of shit.

This game gives me the good art / pics, I do not give a shit.

All I want is to play at least an average-y if they're going to make the same thing but nahhhhh, this piece of shit is already trying to mimic the first one with a bit of edits and they still FUCKED IT UP!!!

Hell TiTs is still probably a lot better than this one with all the interesting tile-based controls and that weird-ass level cap.

I guess they kinda liked the way TiTs thing where it's tile based movement or something but hey, Llith's Throne did it better, A LOT of both games' features, Lilith's Throne did it better (Aside from optimizations because Java and once-per-century update schedule.)

Sandbox elements are near-zero in this shit and again, LT did it better, a lot better.
Story probably will make this one win it since they're doing the same shit as CoC1 but a lot more scuffed...

I guess the budget and focus went to the art since the gameplay feels way too bland nay BAD.
Stats are janky, enemy stats are janky, Why is there a level cap? Why is it a forced party system?
The CHAD MC in the first one didn't need shit for companions.

The first one's literally made a decade ago so I don't know why you think this one's justified having the same problems since the damn "sequel" like you said, ALREADY HAS THE FUCKING PROBLEMS THEY SHOULD'VE FIXED IN THE FIRST ONE!!!

The story was good around THAT time bud but this one? If we're going to see the same story again, at least make them try to make it a little more unique.



Any game made today will be judged as poorly as you did here in the modern day bud'.
Any game of the year in the past is probably going to be mediocre in the future players' eyes as our standards will keep growing higher and higher.

 

[krusher906]

Haven't played in a while. Can I play as a demon, spreading corruption yet?

 

[JTakiyaa]

Haven't played in a while. Can I play as a demon, spreading corruption yet?

Sounds like a power fantasy mate. You better watch your back.

 

[krusher906]

Sounds like a power fantasy mate. You better watch your back.

Lol why? Is there no bad guy mode like the first?

 

[RenH]

Curious why people complain about the main story in this game when it is not very different at all from the first.

Complaints like these


Just don't make any sense if you are also saying the first game's story was good.

The way the game is played with moving around the tiles and whatnot is worse for me than the first game, but that's not the criticisms these sorts of people have with the game. They criticise the game for having certain problems with the story yet praise the first despite having the exact same problems.

Not entirely sure where you're getting that people think the story from the first game is good. If anything, most people agree that the story writing of the first is very simplistic in comparison to this one. What complaints like Raf-Raf's are getting at however is the apparent lack of player agency in CoC2 along with other glaring issues that are either due to some of writers' pieces or general attitude of the content creators.

People praise the first game for a lot of things but the story definitely isn't one of them. Unfinished story beats, dumb character interactions, flat character writing, just to name a few. Hell, people generally love the mods of the first game more than they do the actual vanilla game itself.

I personally am of the opinion that the story of CoC2 is better than CoC. There's an actual plot, I was invested in trying to advance the plot when I first played the game a year ago, the characters are generally a lot more interesting and despite everything that's transpired, I still like Cait and Brint.

What I don't like is the lazy way corruption is handled, how I am forced to have Cait in my party if I want a healer, how I can't even go solo lest I want to go try hard, how there's an arbitrary level cap like this is somehow a DnD campaign that operates on milestone levelling, how the writers make it very clear they hate player choice and jerk off their OCs at every chance they get whilst making your PC take horse futa dick in the ass and claim you love it. I don't like the incongruency between your actions and the reactions of the people around and the absolutely useless deities that exist in the world. At least in the first game, the reason why the goddess of Mareth isn't doing anything made sense since her waters are severely polluted and corrupted. Here? Dunno, guess gods doing god things and not caring despite the fact that it is well established that they can interact with mortals.

There's a lot of reasons why people like Raf-Raf make comparisons to the first game. The 'stellar' storywriting of the first definitely isn't one of them.

 

[Daken9]

I give a lot of shit to this game, but credit where credit is due. After playing a bit of Seeds of Chaos today i realized that it's very much unlike CoC, in the sense that in the latter i can succesfully pretend most of the smelly shit in it doesn't exist. That's quite an achievement, it must be said.

 

[Drago_dragneal]

this game needs incest?

 

[BlueKazXV]

Any body figure out how to change your race with the editor without turning yourself inot a chimera?

 

[Decent-Win]

this game needs incest?

 

[throbzombie]

this game needs incest?

Is that a question or a statement?

There's a lot of reasons why people like Raf-Raf make comparisons to the first game. The 'stellar' storywriting of the first definitely isn't one of them.

See, the thing about CoC1 is that, compared to this, it didn't have much of a story, nor much in the way of lore. Sure, it had both of those things, and they weren't bad, but they weren't the focus. The smut, which was excellent, was. Savin and Friends want to be for reals writers, but as this is porn, it just comes off lame and pretentious.

 

[JTakiyaa]

Lol why? Is there no bad guy mode like the first?

Oh crap you're being serious then. Sorry for my previous answer. Here is the real answer. As far as the game progressed thus far, nope. Corruption makes you more horny and 100 corruption point gives you a Dark Knight title. Only some NPC have variations to that. No impact to the game world except a bad end with Kassyra. As for NPC corruption, most content are made with less to none effort for the route ie. Hive Quest corruption path. Slime cat has corruption so far. Pure bad guy gameplay is not even close to the first game.

 

[Raf-Raf]

this game needs incest?

*Laughs in Helspawn incident*

 

[hentaifelf]

does the discolored egg mainly give you claws and feathers, or do i have to wait more days for other effects?

 

[actualrealname]

think the point is because the first game was mostly just Fen writing everything himself, with some additions from the community later on, whereas this one is a "team" of people raking in tens of thousands of dollars a month, and it's pretty much the same quality. Like 10 years ago this would be okay, but with the amount of money you're making and the changes in tech and coding practices, you would have expected more.

The first game also had barely any focus on the story at all, which I think is a pretty important note. It was fairly content to just be a kind of dumb porn game 99% of the time, with some character focused subplots. Those subplots did get shit on in coc1 sometimes too, because they were given a lot more attention than main quest stuff. Urtaquest is pretty much the original fen drama.

CoC2 puts a hell of a lot more focus on the background world and story, to the degree there's entire quest chains with no real sexual content and long, wordy conversation battles in which you argue about random background stuff.

It gets a lot of critique because it gets a lot of focus, whereas if you look at tits the most criticism you ever get is that there's no real progression in the main story, because it's just an excuse to move around worlds. If you make an effort to be more than just a porn game, you'll get criticisms focused on how well you achieve that.

 

[RenH]

See, the thing about CoC1 is that, compared to this, it didn't have much of a story, nor much in the way of lore. Sure, it had both of those things, and they weren't bad, but they weren't the focus. The smut, which was excellent, was. Savin and Friends want to be for reals writers, but as this is porn, it just comes off lame and pretentious.

Oh, I know that. Just wanted to clarify that most people like ourselves never really considered the writing of the first game good, just that it was shined in the parts that mattered the most.

 

[Archaon11111]

Haven't played in a while. Can I play as a demon, spreading corruption yet?

No demons for now. There are demonic style transformations like the Lycan and Corrupt Mare, which is like the sinister looking versions of Lupine and Mare. Gives you stuff like bat wings and horns.

I think the only corruption spreading content available is with Nihara, who if you have sex with her while having high corruptions turns her corrupt. Everything else related to corruption is usually a dead end.