Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.33] [Savin/Salamander Studios]
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The thing is, Kiyoko willingly marries her first firstborn daughter, who is supposed to become a den-mother to someone who does not acknowledge the MAJOR achievements of her husband.
Let assume you clear all the major quests. Barge into the kitsune home and go on beating the main defending forces? Check. Beat-up the whole winter-city shebang? Double-check. Defeat Tollus cult on three separate occasions? Retrieve a magical artefact AND bringing back Kiyoko? Bring down the Kervus tribe? Fucking hell, give the MC a break, their back must hurt after carrying all this shit.
You would think that the opinion of someone who achieved so much would matter at least a little when it comes to choosing a decent husband for your daughter. Nope, they’re just told «everything is already settle, Kinu gonna be married to an edgelord ».
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Because we're an Ook-Ook MC.
We only fight and smash, we no talk talk, we only ook ook.
This. So much this. It's why I appreciate games that acknowledge the actions taken by the MC.
Seriously, given the MC's show of power when he/she/it accomplished all the stuff you said, others should really be taking the MC more seriously.
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"What most players don't care about"
Is literally what most players that play written games do care about.
Quick question: when asking Cait to use her strapon on you for the very first time, I see the option of please her greyed out? Anyone know why (playing as a male in case that affects anything)?
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I think it's the devs' subtle way of indicating that you are an inadequate lover. You see, a true master of the craft will take every opportunity to express his vision, weaving the themes of his art cleverly into every aspect of the game, including the interface itself.
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There's no substitute to hard work since it always pays off.
I could roll with this more if the MC wasn't the one fixing all of the problems the Elves and Dragons are either struggling with or not doing anything about and chewing through Demons like a bodybuilder does chicken breasts while you're banging their boss. I'd have no issue with a lack of agency if you played as a small cog in the greater machine of the story but in CoC2 it feels like the world is kind of going to shit and you're single handedly pulling it out with some friends if you want. Doesn't really matter how old or great anyone is if you're still the one making things happen and kicking all the ass.
I'll give a shout out the Gweyr since on her quest there can be a few times depending on how you play where you saves your ass and that makes you feel a little more moral but for the most part you jump in the deep end and come out on top where no one else could. I mean you can beat the sexy snakey "goddess of knowledge" in mind games so it comes off a little against the grain when people make big decisions without the biggest changer of things around.
I agree with this and I'll refer to what I said above in that It's absolutely frustrating to get looked over when you happen to be the person who makes anything of note happen and seem to be the only one who has any success against the badness. More so with the Kitsunes since you can go in and kick all their asses alone, and bring back their noble leader from being a ghost thing.
Makes it hard to believe that anyone would have the balls to not consult you about anything let alone your own family including your wife (who you saved) when you even got the okay from the god.
I mean no one could stop you if you wanted to be their dictator and you already pimp slapped edgeboi if you took on the tribe on your first visit. I mean what's to stop you from disciplining your own daughter if you think she's being a bit of a slut, let alone having your own wife who's supposed to love and support you (cause that the whole marriage shtick) deciding that you don't get to have a say in who your daughter marries.
I think the Kitsunes stand out in this way because the decisions that get made aren't logical so it's hard to understand why they're happening on top of the fact that it breezes over the MC like you didn't do all the things you did. Reminds me of how Leofric can smite you from the sky randomly despite having almost nothing to do with the plot. Feels weird to kick the shit out of his assistant 70 odd times cause she can't not ask you to gently give her a hiding just to get curb stomped before you can blink because logic would say that you got pretty good at fights 'n stuff. right? RIGHT?
Apparently wrong.
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Translation: If you're guaranteed the same pay regardless of the quality there's little incentive to do better. In fact, it encourages poor performance in bad actors / writers.
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Also a writer / coder worth their salt could get this done in a fraction of the time. Seriously. If the writer does their job right and puts curly braces in the right spots, there is little the coder has to do besides a few hours tops of code. Maybe half a day if the base code is really shit.
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Nah, you see, this is clearly Tobs' deep and analytical writing trying to convey the superiority of his definitely-not-Japanese-inspired of foxes that are ultra-nationalistic colonisers (I wish I was joking) that have to grace your people, the 'Northerners', the 'natives' of this land with their presence and do so by unironically trying to suck your soul--I mean, life essence in order to prosper which in no way shape or form makes them similar to the demons.
Their decisions aren't logical because they clearly are the more civilised people as opposed to you, the MC, and their merry band of companions that have singlehandedly brought down their foes, brought back their Esteemed Leader, be cool with their god and prove to be overall powerhouses, hence precisely why your people are 'backwater.' Clearly, getting shit done is far beneath them.
By the way, Kiyoko actually willingly handing over Kinu to Nakano (if Hime route) genuinely baffles me since the last build I played was from last year and am currently in the middle of just running through the current build. Now I am definitely determined to just keep her in the amulet. No way. It's like, what, the moment you return to being a 'den-mother', you revert back to your old kitsune ways? Is the MC just chopped liver? Did spending all that time in the amulet mean nothing?
Nah, clearly the MC's 'Northerner' self is not suited for this sort of thing. I mean, actually wanting to support your wife during childbirth is 'weird', right?
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But you see, they're just like Imperial Japan: so madly racist and self-assured that they won't even entertain the idea that a "barbarian" can be better than them at anything, even when the evidence is right in front of their face. Nothing short of destroying them utterly will get them to understand that they're not top dog. Tobs actually kinda nailed it.
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Eh, I wouldn't really say that. Based on the style of clothing, tech level and general ignorance towards the people of the land they're settling in, it's more of a mish-mash between Feudal Japan but with Imperial Japan ideology. The Feudal Japanese post-unification period would still be enforcing isolationism and would want little to do with foreigners, let alone colonise. The Imperial Japanese would fit the image Tobs is gunning for, sure, but they would also be a lot more Western since they would have adopted a lot of practices and fashion styles due to the Meiji Restoration, which rapidly modernised the nation at the cost of severe cultural whiplash.
It's also a little odd to still maintain that worldview when iirc the lore makes them out to be more like refugees running away from a major conflict than a superpower expanding into other nations.
Hence, why I maintain that Tobs is probably thinking that he's pretty smart when in reality he's just parking in the disabled lot and cramming different bits and pieces of Japanese history and culture and gluing it together with whatever it is he calls a plot. I hear it's pretty runny and gets pretty long.
You know how you can leave the battle with the orc chieftain to let his giant wipe the orc settlement off the map and out of the game?
My kingdom for the ability to do something similar with the kitsune den.
My kingdom for the ability to do something similar with the kitsune den.
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I may have been a bit cheeky in my post, but from what I understand of history, Imperial Japan was a militaristic, xenophobic and expansionist state that regarded foreigners as little more than vermin and thought nothing of committing genocide against them for that reason. So maybe the kitsune aren't that bad yet, but I'm sure they'll get there if given time.