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Kiyoko did teach her how to fight though on one of her scenes.
I'm not quite sure that justifies her having such absurd bonuses lol.

Also, the player character is more of a prodigy than Kinu
We should be, logically we have way more experience and the bonuses from whatever's going on with our soul, but this isn't the case.


Story reasons aside, Kinu is massively overpowered. Most companions have a 3-4 stat point bonus over the PC to make up for their relative inflexibility; Kinu gets a total of +6 for her personality, coupled with another +4 for her weapon choice, not to mention that she gets 2 actions a round.

She is meant to play and feel like a child prodigy.
The only thing that likely makes us stronger now is a higher level cap, and that her content has kind of stalled out for a while (thankfully).
 

j_ericson

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Kinu content should have been vetoed before it ever made it into the game. All the bullshit tobs employed in order to bypass the established rules of the game and the universe in order to forcibly insert his princess oc fanfic as a separate plotline wholy unrelated to the main story is utterly baffling.
Kiyoko ignores sterility because she only needs our body energy but in that case she can just suck off or eat out the champ to get it. No need for pregnancy but tobs bit off more than he could chew with having two Kinus that he couldn't possibly account for not having her.
Kinu grows super fast because of time shenanigans.
Kinu inherits her sire's ability for quick learning despite the fact that champ is incapable of passing anything on to their children and kitsune being dominant breeders.

But you can't remove Kinu because Kiyoko's whole character arc is tied to her. Good mother bad mother doesn't work if not mother. Hell, she already has all of her sets right out of the gate instead of getting them at important points of her story like everyone else does.

Pull either end and it all ties into a lovely bow of how tobs tricked the devs into making his budget princess maker ripoff fan fic a reality when they could've been doing something productive such as advancing the story instead of indulging a selfobsessed weeabu.
 

NODOGAN

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Pretty much the general consensus all around, lol. Her adult transformation makes little to no sense either way.
Other than suposedly make us feel bad because "oh no we abbandoned her during most her childhood" to which i say: no we fucking didn't we free them from a goddam dimensional prison, fuck you Tobs i got Kiyoko free, that was my main goal all along so i won.
 

RenH

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no we fucking didn't we free them from a goddam dimensional prison, fuck you Tobs i got Kiyoko free, that was my main goal all along so i won.
Damn right! Also, isn't the whole 'dimensional prison' part hammered into their heads since the day the player found the amulet? They knew full well that you weren't going to be there every single day, even if to you they were legitimately daily visits.

To that I say, fuck you, Tobs! If Kinu's gonna be upset over my involuntary absenteeism then she can take it up to Keros!
 

j_ericson

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Kinu: "Dad/Mom, why did you leave us in the orb? It's been ten years since you last visited us, don't you remember? Mother and I would divine upon you to make sure you were well and I honestly couldn't believe what I was seeing. You made trips to the den... every... single... day. And not once have you thought to set us free! Every day was the same! You would wake up, go to the waygate and travel to the den to speak with Komari about something! Has it ever occured to you to ask for our freedom?! Don't answer, I already know that you will deny it! You never even had the decency to change your clothes. Every single day you would wear the same thing you have the AUDACITY! to wear even today! You even have the gall to not age a day in all that time. Not having to worry about your dear daughter must've done wonders for your skin, huh? You make me sick! But that's in the past and I will forgive your neglecting us."

Champ: "HOW COULD I HAVE BEEN SO CRUEL!?"
 

Raf-Raf

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Dec 4, 2019
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Kinu: "Dad/Mom, why did you leave us in the orb? It's been ten years since you last visited us, don't you remember? Mother and I would divine upon you to make sure you were well and I honestly couldn't believe what I was seeing. You made trips to the den... every... single... day. And not once have you thought to set us free! Every day was the same! You would wake up, go to the waygate and travel to the den to speak with Komari about something! Has it ever occured to you to ask for our freedom?! Don't answer, I already know that you will deny it! You never even had the decency to change your clothes. Every single day you would wear the same thing you have the AUDACITY! to wear even today! You even have the gall to not age a day in all that time. Not having to worry about your dear daughter must've done wonders for your skin, huh? You make me sick! But that's in the past and I will forgive your neglecting us."

Champ: "HOW COULD I HAVE BEEN SO CRUEL!?"
I guess that's Tobs' writing a'ight where they portray us as a "SAVAGE"
Me ook-ook, Me smash-smash.
 

Konstantinus

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Plus he keeps commissioning artwork of Kinu getting railed or proudly sharing what others commissioned. It's weird.

Well, within context it's weird.
I do not know if my madness or my english skill is failing but can you please elaborate this? Because I can relate more why people are against Covid Vaccines then this.
We're talking about a man who thinks having loving parents is a sign of toxic dependency and a desire to fuck your own family. He's Kinu's parent and he's showing off his affection for her and is overly proud of the ways people draw her in 'fanart'.
Make of that what you will. :p
What?
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Wait what?
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Sorry this even for my convoluted Marauderlike mind to much madness. It is like he is short before diving into umbra because his reality and this one are close to completely ripped away of links.
 

WazaQQXOXO

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Wait...
He PAID for this?!?
And I always thought one of the people had to much time.
I don't know, and I for sure don't want to know. But I know for sure that the Wiki is maintained by the COC staff, which has no issue with keeping the CGs up. On one hand, TOBS was salty about Hellspawn and child grooming, on the other hand, the dude has no issue keeping up CGs where it's clear the daughter MC is having the time of her life.


That's the part where I got interested in drinking to death.
It's a shame that the teamlead doesn't tardwrangle the writers a tiny bit, it could do wonders. The way KM was handled gave me the motivation to seriously work on a RPGmaker game, dysfunctional degenerates deserve the smut they paid for.
 

arls120

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I guess I should be happy to be gay, just to have had children with brint and quilitus because I do not want or want to live all this drama that they have with kinu and I hope with all my heart that Tobs never write content for their children if is that they do.
 
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