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I love how everyone here likes to shit on Observer (and in many cases it’s well-deserved) but BubbleLord gets a lot less attention.
Most people don't think it's very nice to pick on people with disabilities.

At least Kas doesn't try and impeccably succeeds in gaslighting you.
True, but she's also the only villain that isn't absolute F tier garbage in the game, so I'm morally bound to keep her as one.

As for the rest I've got no intention on going back and checking so I'll believe you lol
 

j_ericson

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>suck your soul to thrive
>ambush random passersby to suck said souls
>are mostly racist towards 'Northerners'
>said to be 'expatriates' in the lore but really are just straight-up colonisers
>very unapologetic about it
>are the minority but have no qualm in treating the majority as 'food'
>are the descendants of the trickster god who may or may not have cucked you
>stupidly OP since their one true god, TOBS, said so


...why is the Champ even there? Why is there even a game? Might as well just have the player be a kitsune from the get-go since apparently the kitsune could just as easily kick Kas to the curb and they haven't done that yet for...some reason. Better yet, make it a VN where you just read through the adventures of Kitsune Watanabe as he jaunts about Savarra kicking demon butt for the glory of totally not-Japan.
Well there is some consolation as a few months ago savin said that he would want to cut down on the weeb influeneces in the game and that he talked to tobs about how the kitsune weren't the best idea and should not be repeated quote "just cuz kitsune". I would be more hopeful if we could jusy reset the slate and for next game move to another world where the weebs actually make sense and fit into the world instead of being what they are, but most of next game planning stuff is covered in shitposting so it's hard to tell. All we know now is that it won't be a CoC game as that is fen's ip.

Anywho I'll be working on my bubblelord rant now.
 

RenH

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as a few months ago savin said that he would want to cut down on the weeb influeneces in the game and that he talked to tobs about how the kitsune weren't the best idea and should not be repeated quote "just cuz kitsune"
Wait, really? Savin actually did that?
 

Aileh200

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As I have once inquired much earlier in the thread:
Are the demons really the bad guys here?
Because of that writing, for me, it made it seem like demons are just aliens doing their alien invasion while the kitsune are that one country who plans to colonize another.

Also, I have a question unrelated to stuff above: what could happen if the Miko and Mai from Mareth meet the Miko and Mai from Savarra?
 

enumate

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Jun 12, 2020
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>suck your soul to thrive
>ambush random passersby to suck said souls
>are mostly racist towards 'Northerners'
>said to be 'expatriates' in the lore but really are just straight-up colonisers
>very unapologetic about it
>are the minority but have no qualm in treating the majority as 'food'
>are the descendants of the trickster god who may or may not have cucked you
>stupidly OP since their one true god, TOBS, said so


...why is the Champ even there? Why is there even a game? Might as well just have the player be a kitsune from the get-go since apparently the kitsune could just as easily kick Kas to the curb and they haven't done that yet for...some reason. Better yet, make it a VN where you just read through the adventures of Kitsune Watanabe as he jaunts about Savarra kicking demon butt for the glory of totally not-Japan.
Well you know what they say in economics. 20% of the population does / holds 80% of the work / assets.
 

Raf-Raf

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Dec 4, 2019
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I can imagine how that convo went.
Savin: "Hey, Tobs, you know how you, like, write the kitsune and shit?"
Tobs: "Yeah?"
Savin: "Well, they're, like, so shitty that even I know it. You need to knock it off."
Tobs:
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Tobs: So what do you think about Kitsune?
Savin: I think it's pretty shit.
Tobs: I see...Then how about fox people? Kitsune but fully furred.
Savin: It's still Kitsune...
 
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Kallisto

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I think a good step in beating back the Kitsune debacle would be to actually implement that opposing choice that was originally planned (give soul to keros vs give soul to taoth). Except Savin let Tobs and his free writing go a bit too far, and now - according to Savin - no one else wants to write the alternate choice and have to compete with the gigantic chunk of content that is Keros and the Kitsune. And also Tobs isn't interested in writing the Taoth side. I did some digging and it seems we might still see the Taoth side plotline that was planned but we won't have the choice to join him.

Idk it would've been nice to see what Taoth's faction would have been like but I don't blame the other writers. I may not have a high opinion of Tobs but he is definitely a prolific writer. I wish the Female Agent dev had Tobs' work ethic.

On another note, is the Temple of Mallach most of Tobs' writing as well? And have we heard of what content people who don't want to build the temple get in exchange? Because otherwise it seems like the keros/kitsune situation all over again, where Tobs will write a shit ton for this one choice and no one will want to have to compete with his writing pace to write the other choice.
 

WazaQQXOXO

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On another note, is the Temple of Mallach most of Tobs' writing as well? And have we heard of what content people who don't want to build the temple get in exchange? Because otherwise it seems like the keros/kitsune situation all over again, where Tobs will write a shit ton for this one choice and no one will want to have to compete with his writing pace to write the other choice.
The main issue with the kitsune-gate is that this particular piece of content is very TOBS-centrered, it feels more like a OC self-insertion rather than a content designed for the players. It also gives the impression that TOBS would not involve other community writers: except Takahiro and the roaming kitsunes, all the other foxes are TOBS creations.

The wayfort is almost empty of worthwhile content. Why don’t the writers put it to good use? Wanna write an arc where the kitsune position is threatened? A tainted MC with conquest ambitions could the fort it as a base for its new war-band. The alraune, if spared, is devoted to the MC; the hive next door can be dominated as well, and it is possible to usewaystone to bring folks other than party companions (centaur juggernaut in mind). Bring in the corrupted centaur tribe, annex the marefolks and take over Hawktorn.

The Tamika is mad over your expansion project ? Use it as a new rug. The foxlike-daemon start throwing a hissy fit? Raze the tree to the ground, Sylvannas did it once and nobody gave a shit. Give the MC a chance to build a debauchery empire that will even surpass Kas dreams.

Instead we got the child-grooming temple with no other alternative.
 

Daken9

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With regards to Savin on the matter of the kitsune:
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Don't know if i would go that far. After that conversation Tobs came up with wolf-mama and that whole pile of crap, and since it's in the game i gotta assume bossman greenlit that prime piece of word diarrhea... so yeah.

Savin probably just salty Kiyoko and walmart Ciri got no NTR content.
 

RenH

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Don't know if i would go that far. After that conversation Tobs came up with wolf-mama and that whole pile of crap, and since it's in the game i gotta assume bossman greenlit that prime piece of word diarrhea... so yeah.

Savin probably just salty Kiyoko and walmart Ciri got no NTR content.
Still, credit where credits due. If a broken clock can be right twice a day, then Savin is allowed to be right once every few years.
 
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