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OK, considering this Info on Arona's tribe and their bloody raids on soft targets and sly actions. How is Arona not killed on sight? This is way past bad blood and would go into ethnic (kervus) hatred.

The more you think about the world of Coc2 the less you'd want you Pc's family to stay in it.
 
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Hi I've been wandering around the old forest trying to complete Aronas spirt totem quest, three days straight and I can't encounter Vivien to give the soul shard? Or whatever it is any particular part of the forest she hangs about in, or is RNG being a cruel mistress to me?
 

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Hi I've been wandering around the old forest trying to complete Aronas spirt totem quest, three days straight and I can't encounter Vivien to give the soul shard? Or whatever it is any particular part of the forest she hangs about in, or is RNG being a cruel mistress to me?
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actually brienne's opinion towards slavery is neutral(?)
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the real problem for her is how the orcs (Kervus Tribe) get their slaves
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and brienne has maternal instincts
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so it's normal that she hates arona and the kervus tribe now
I will say tho that now that I went through Brienne and her opinions about Arona, it is not really how I painted it us. Any time Brienne chastises Arona about slavery is about how it affected others. Like in cow teachers dialogue.
And most of her personal gripes are tied to Arona being pushy and forceful when she turned into a woman, not how Arona is a slavery. So, yeah, my bad.
 
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repeating the same scene until the next option was available.
Man, I wish CoC2 didn't do this so often. The game sometimes is so cryptic about unlocking X or Y and the solution is often to spam the same scene several times and suddenly it changes stuff and unlocks new content. I wish there was a smarter way to do that or at least somewhat clearer signposting. Some scenes in this game are so unreasonably difficult or annoying to get for no good reason.
 

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actually brienne's opinion towards slavery is neutral(?)
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the real problem for her is how the orcs (Kervus Tribe) get their slaves
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and brienne has maternal instincts
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so it's normal that she hates arona and the kervus tribe now
That's so weird. If she'd said KM slaves have more rights (lmao) or some shit then we can talk about it, but apparentely it's literally just a matter of how they aquire them? Like, pass the hypocrisy of the average citizen, but considering in the bath dialogue Arona outright states most of the slaves in KM are orcs, how does it make any sense that a travelled adventurer like Brienne would resent orcs for having mino slaves but be completely fine with the opposite.

Is her maternal instinct only developed for people with horns, or does her heart only go out to folk kidnapped via raids and not war, or what?

And look, i know all my last posts have been about this but i'm legit stunlocked on this stupidity :KEK: And doubly so because Brienne and Arona are my faves. Shit's like the grooming temple and mama wolf. It's like the writers don't realize they've built a grey blob of a world and keep trying to narrate it in black and white terms. Just, discuss penis in vagina and leave it at that.
 

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Just my opinion but I don't think it's pro/anti slaver so much as the targets. The minos take defeated warriors as slaves from honorable combat while the orcs are nabbing women and children from sneaky raids. I think in that circumstance I can see why the resentment exists. It's similar to yeah soldiers die in combat but you just don't attack civilians.
 

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The baker corruption was a bit lackluster. I was hoping for more of a process from innocent baker wife to slut but it was just repeating the same scene until the next option was available.
Man, I wish CoC2 didn't do this so often. The game sometimes is so cryptic about unlocking X or Y and the solution is often to spam the same scene several times and suddenly it changes stuff and unlocks new content. I wish there was a smarter way to do that or at least somewhat clearer signposting. Some scenes in this game are so unreasonably difficult or annoying to get for no good reason.
Okay, and how would you have done the corruption then, if not by repeating scenes? It made sense to me that the more you fuck her the more she accepts that she loves getting fucked, and the more addicted she becomes to you. But as always, I'm taking feedback. I'm writing some more corruption content right now, so hearing about other ways to corrupt the girls may be quite valuable at the moment.
 

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Okay, and how would you have done the corruption then, if not by repeating scenes? It made sense to me that the more you fuck her the more she accepts that she loves getting fucked, and the more addicted she becomes to you. But as always, I'm taking feedback. I'm writing some more corruption content right now, so hearing about other ways to corrupt the girls may be quite valuable at the moment.
I think repeating scenes works, but there has to be some kind of indicator that it does. Which could be a lot of work if you did something like have the text change as you progressed or something simple like including a line something like "It seems she might get more into this over time." I think people are more irritated that they don't know what scenes unlock something by repeating them than doing the repeating, but that might just be me... And the gradually changing scenes while more work would be a better sign of progress even if it's just slight modifications on the wording. IE she starts off acting reserved at first but the descriptions start becoming more wanton as the scene is repeated. Honestly I'm okay with it as long as it's less cryptic on which scenes lead to something else if repeated though.
 

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That's so weird. If she'd said KM slaves have more rights (lmao) or some shit then we can talk about it, but apparentely it's literally just a matter of how they aquire them? Like, pass the hypocrisy of the average citizen, but considering in the bath dialogue Arona outright states most of the slaves in KM are orcs, how does it make any sense that a travelled adventurer like Brienne would resent orcs for having mino slaves but be completely fine with the opposite.
So... she is a speciest?
Is her maternal instinct only developed for people with horns
if your maternal instinct applies to other species there is something seriously wrong with you
or does her heart only go out to folk kidnapped via raids and not war, or what?
this is simply the standard modern belief that soldier lives are meaningless and only civilian lives matter
 

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After reaching 100 dominance with Berwyn, doing the cock worship until after Cait comes and goes, leaving and coming back, how do I unlock the "Do"?
 

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Just my opinion but I don't think it's pro/anti slaver so much as the targets. The minos take defeated warriors as slaves from honorable combat while the orcs are nabbing women and children from sneaky raids. I think in that circumstance I can see why the resentment exists. It's similar to yeah soldiers die in combat but you just don't attack civilians.
Probably giving it more thought than anyone in the writing team did, but taking slaves from war doesn't really mean they're only enslaving defeated enemy combatants. And frankly there's no way that's the case, not only because we're ultimately talking about a slave society, but also because we're talking about one whose numbers are boosted in a significant way by the slave population alone (as pointed out by Brienne).

But again, looking at shit like the grooming people, it shouldn't have even surprised me that evil orcs taking slaves from raids and honorable minos taking slaves from war(=raids, sieges, and all that shit) is an unironical angle. Like, if that's the line then might as well let Kaz win. Girl would have her work cut out to make things worse, that's for sure.
 

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Probably giving it more thought than anyone in the writing team did, but taking slaves from war doesn't really mean they're only enslaving defeated enemy combatants. And frankly there's no way that's the case, not only because we're ultimately talking about a slave society, but also because we're talking about one whose numbers are boosted in a significant way by the slave population alone (as pointed out by Brienne).

But again, looking at shit like the grooming people, it shouldn't have even surprised me that evil orcs taking slaves from raids and honorable minos taking slaves from war(=raids, sieges, and all that shit) is an unironical angle. Like, if that's the line then might as well let Kaz win. Girl would have her work cut out to make things worse, that's for sure.
I didn't mean to imply that it's right or wrong on its own but how it looks from the mino's perspective. We (the mino's) take slaves "honorably" you (the orcs) don't. Personally on my "pure" playthrough my character fully intends to keep on culling the corrupt even after Kas falls with some good old wraith hunting, temple smashing, and slave liberating at least in headcannon if they don't put it in the game.
 
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Okay, and how would you have done the corruption then, if not by repeating scenes? It made sense to me that the more you fuck her the more she accepts that she loves getting fucked, and the more addicted she becomes to you. But as always, I'm taking feedback. I'm writing some more corruption content right now, so hearing about other ways to corrupt the girls may be quite valuable at the moment.
As Wrynn13 said, it's less of an issue with the content itself and more of indication issue. Unfortunately, I haven't reached that scene myself, but I'd imagine that I would miss the "sluttier" scene simply because I wouldn't assume repeating the scene several times unlocks new content. I am not sure how much work it would require to have an alternating paragraphs or two in the beginning and the end to showcase the progress happening to a character, or different dialogue lines in some parts that showcase it, basicaly what Wrynn said.

I am mostly just talking from a casual perspective though. CoC2 is a text-based adventure game and usually I don't expect from this sort of experience that re-reading the same page would suddenly add a new one. But there are players who would re-read scenes as a part of their roleplay experience.
 
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