Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.33] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[MoneyMan181]

Brienne is just so...boring, though.

Eh, guess everyone likes their own thing, I'm not judging.

Well, maybe a little.

Boring as in she's vanilla? I mean maybe, but even that's arguable. An 8'6 buff cowgirl that is submissive(tall/muscular characters are usually coded as being dominant), wants you to breed and marry herself and her family, but can also kick ass and carry you both in combat and out of it seems more original than dominant trap, "lovable" town bike, and the same "Alpha/Beta" character Savin has written in every single Fenoxo game. Even more so when you and her are a super lovey-dovey monogamous couple with her not fucking anybody but you in this world where most people go around fucking everything under the sun.

She's the most wife-able girl in the game, has a lot of good and consistent content, written by the best non-commission author, and is a serious, almost necessary, breath of fresh air in this uber promiscuous world. It's really no wonder why she's a pretty universally loved character.

If nothing else, boring in this game is pretty much the opposite of boring due to everybody being so over-the-top, so there's also that.

 

[Tau_Iota]

Absolute travesty that they did that to Wsan's character without his permission or at least giving him a heads-up. What happened to "we can't make content for abandoned characters because we don't want to step on toes"? Was it gasp just laziness this whole time?!

So we get the worst of both worlds, no content for characters forgotten but we do get hateful spite content made specifically to enrage players/other writers apparently. Just shutter the project tbh, if Wsan and William (wrote the only Kitsune I actually like, Kurako) get along they could link up with an artist and a coder to make a fantastic game. Let Savin and Tobs run this into the ground with spite.

 

[mrttao]

Absolute travesty that they did that to Wsan's character without his permission or at least giving him a heads-up. What happened to "we can't make content for abandoned characters because we don't want to step on toes"? Was it gasp just laziness this whole time?!

So we get the worst of both worlds, no content for characters forgotten but we do get hateful spite content made specifically to enrage players/other writers apparently. Just shutter the project tbh, if Wsan and William (wrote the only Kitsune I actually like, Kurako) get along they could link up with an artist and a coder to make a fantastic game. Let Savin and Tobs run this into the ground with spite.

Can you please elaborate with info on what they actually did specifically?
I dropped this shit show a while ago, so I am not clear what is going on.

Who is Wsan and how did Savin and Tobs ruin his character?

 

[Tau_Iota]

Can you please elaborate with info on what they actually did specifically?
I dropped this shit show a while ago, so I am not clear what is going on.

Who is Wsan and how did Savin and Tobs ruin his character?

It's all back like one page, there's a couple of pages, about it but a quick run-through is Wsan created Brint/Brienne. Tobs wanted to do a scene or two with Brienne, Wsan said "Nah don't touch lmao", Tobs wrote a legitimate full-on rape scene for Brienne while the champ is forced to watch (can also find it like a page back), didn't ask Wsan if it was cool and sent it to Savin, who then greenlit it without telling Wsan.

It's been in the game for a decent amount of time, and Wsan found out a few days ago. Pretty scummy move by Tobs and Savin.

 

[Julles Ra]

Uh, yeah, save editing or otherwise hacking the game tends to break some stuff.

Yeah, at this point where there's nothing to do but run around and stuff some holes, enemy encounters becomes more of a nuisance so why not get those OP AoE skills to instantly clear out pests

 

[Boardguy]

Tobs wanted to do a scene or two with Brienne

What exactly did Tobs want to write before the spiteful rape scene?

 

[Julles Ra]

What exactly did Tobs want to write before the spiteful rape scene?

Prolly not something good going by how much the forum shits on Tobs and his kitsunes

 

[Tau_Iota]

What exactly did Tobs want to write before the spiteful rape scene?

I'm not sure, it was posted a week or two (maybe more) ago on here about it

Prolly not something good going by how much the forum shits on Tobs and his kitsunes

Probably Nakano beheading the PC and taking Brienne for his own, then you're forced to finish the game as Nakano

 

[Julles Ra]

I'm not really Keen on spending a few hours or so backreading but what's up with the slutsune and edgelord, who I'm assuming is Kitsune Home and Nakano, and Tobs' daddy issues

 

[mrttao]

It's all back like one page, there's a couple of pages, about it but a quick run-through is Wsan created Brint/Brienne. Tobs wanted to do a scene or two with Brienne, Wsan said "Nah don't touch lmao", Tobs wrote a legitimate full-on rape scene for Brienne while the champ is forced to watch (can also find it like a page back), didn't ask Wsan if it was cool and sent it to Savin, who then greenlit it without telling Wsan.

It's been in the game for a decent amount of time, and Wsan found out a few days ago. Pretty scummy move by Tobs and Savin.

thank you for that summary. wow, that is fucking awful.

Is Wsan quitting CoC2 of it? I would.

 

[Wrynn13]

The worst part about the kitsunes is there is real potential there, but Tobs just had to be Tobs.

 

[Tau_Iota]

I'm not really Keen on spending a few hours or so backreading but what's up with the slutsune and edgelord, who I'm assuming is Kitsune Home and Nakano, and Tobs' daddy issues

Honestly I'm not the best to say because I actively avoided it even before I knew the horrors it contained lmao

But essentially, you're deprived of being a good father to your daughter via forced time travel (?) so when you see her as an adult she doesn't like you. Then she gets with Nakano who is disrespectful to you no matter what you do for him so she marries him.

Essentially that whole area is NPCs shitting on the PC for not being a kitsune from the Old Country (even that's pretentious lmao) and that you're a barbaric chud. People obviously don't like being treated like that

 

[fetishgirl]

Big thanks to
gregers for the scene
and to moneyman and Daken for making me aware. Not that I didn't believe either of you but I wanted to see how bad it was compared to other loss scenes.

I don't want the thread to turn into another Tobs hate fest but to repeatedly upset his colleagues is extremely unprofessional.

I think what makes the Brienne variant so bad in comparison is the emphasis on how demeaning and dark it is. Especially if Brienne is pregnant and the dialogue is stupid as well. How do you make someone double pregnant?

In most loss scenes I would argue there is some enjoyment for both parties involved. This was just pure malice intended to make you feel awful. I did feel uncomfortable reading that in comparison to others when normally I don't and given Tobs past comments it is very clear this is pure spite its one thing to do it to a former fan that was trolling you its another to do it to a colleague who is a major asset to your team just because you are jealous of their popularity. Pathetic.

Since Guts and Goblin slayer are already taken I think I will go and hyakuretsu ken Tobs as Kenshiro

 

[Julles Ra]

Probably Nakano beheading the PC and taking Brienne for his own, then you're forced to finish the game as Nakano

Then big, bad demon mommy Kas cums to rescue, turns Nakano into limp-dicked futa who cums from pain of cbt, amputation and humiliation play, then you fuck Kinu right in front of him

 

[muschi26]

Honestly I'm not the best to say because I actively avoided it even before I knew the horrors it contained lmao

But essentially, you're deprived of being a good father to your daughter via forced time travel (?) so when you see her as an adult she doesn't like you. Then she gets with Nakano who is disrespectful to you no matter what you do for him so she marries him.

Essentially that whole area is NPCs shitting on the PC for not being a kitsune from the Old Country (even that's pretentious lmao) and that you're a barbaric chud. People obviously don't like being treated like that

Or, if using the very limited time you have to interact with your daughter, you tell her that she should be considerate of others and not manipulate people for her own benefit, she ends up marrying Takahiro, an alcoholic waste of skin, who still doesn't treat you any better than Nakano.

 

[Tau_Iota]

thank you for that summary. wow, that is fucking awful.

Is Wsan quitting CoC2 of it? I would.

It truly is. When I encountered it in-game, I felt disgusted and just went to bed lmao "Rape" can be hot if it's the "wait nooo don'tttt" or you're the character being raped, when you're forced to watch the mother of your children be raped... not so much.

And I don't know because I don't go on the discord, some people here do though. I would quit too, especially considering he's already working on his own project anyways.

 

[mrttao]

So just to double check I fired up my old old save to see what I was doing...
And yea. My party is Myself, Cait (can't get rid of that annoying mary sue gutter slut), and Brienne.
I liked Brienne. even if she should have been her own character rather than genderbent brint.
But now she is ruined. Thanks tobs, thanks savin /s

 

[Tau_Iota]

Then big, bad demon mommy Kas cums to rescue, turns Nakano into limp-dicked futa who cums from pain of cbt, amputation and humiliation play, then you fuck Kinu right in front of him

I knew Kas only had the champ's best interests at heart! It truly was love at first sight.

But it's about the power, I swear.

 

[mrttao]

But essentially, you're deprived of being a good father to your daughter via forced time travel (?) so when you see her as an adult she doesn't like you. Then she gets with Nakano who is disrespectful to you no matter what you do for him so she marries him.

I am pretty sure Nakano is Tobs self insert fursona.

IRL Tobs masturbate at how "he" is cucking so many real live humans who are playing this game by stealing and breeding their daughteru and there is nothing they can do to stop him.

This is why Tobs pays IRL money to hentai artists to draw his fursona cucking you.

 

[Tau_Iota]

If I joined the public discord to request a public apology from Tobs to Wsan how fast would I get banned?

Relatively fast, I imagine. I popped on their discord just now and they all simp for him